Do covid-19 mRNA vaccines cause Turbo-cancers?

[Red Phoenix]

39 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Show me 1 post where I advocated for anyone to take the vaccine. Its a personal choice on all vaccine use and 1 size does not fit all people.

 

Your writing false statements about what I have posted and misleading people as usual.

Try reading what I actually wrote.

> Show me 1 post where I called you out for recommending people to take the covid-vaccine.

Is it a false statement by me writing 'that you support the 'deadly covid-virus' narrative'? 

Don't think so, as you have repeatedly accused those like myself that state that it are not viruses that transmit diseases as crazy, anti-vax nutters.

[Dan O]

18 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Try reading what I actually wrote.

> Show me 1 post where I called you out for recommending people to take the covid-vaccine.

Is it a false statement by me writing 'that you support the 'deadly covid-virus' narrative'? 

Don't think so, as you have repeatedly accused those like myself that state that it are not viruses that transmit diseases as crazy, anti-vax nutters.

Deflecting again. Show proof  it isn't a virus, didn't exist or that there aren't any viruses. You are a delusional and dangerous to ill-informed people that may believe your horse$hit. As for you being a nutter, you haven't needed any help with that. You can move along now because you have no credibility on this issue at all. Have a great day as your time discussing this with me is done 

[Red Phoenix]

19 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Have a great day as your time discussing this with me is done 

Best News of Today > not having to waste my time anymore responding to a foul-mouthing arrogant close-mind like you. 

[Stiddle Mump]

12 hours ago, Dan O said:

Everything you just wrote is false!

 

Post a link supporting there was no covid virus or any other virus EVER! I worked in the medical industry for 25 years in Regulatory Compliance between our company and the FDA. Whats you credentials? Your Internet MD License is obviously expired. 

So you cut yer teeth, so to speak, Dan. You know the business eh!

 

My credentials are; I'm a person that seeks the truth, I am happy with, and can defend my position.

 

Do you not ever consider that we are nature? Nature is us. What you believe, and a whole lot of others as well, is built simply on theoretical falsehoods. That nature is somehow out to get us.

 

If you look back, historically, you will see that powerful, and wealthy individuals, jumped onto the nonsense claims that a few white-coats made 100+ years ago. why? To make money of course! And they are still at it. And their position is built on a theory that does not stand up to scrutiny.

 

As for the FDA?! For my money, there is only one person in that wretched organisation that I have/had any respect for. Yes - you have guessed her name - Frances Kelsey. She, through her belief in seeking the truth, and her immense strength, in resisting the unrelenting Big Pharma pressure she was being subjected to, saved perhaps a million US mothers, from giving birth to deformed babes.

 

Nature has the answers we seek. It's there to help us; not destroy us.

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

If you look back, historically, you will see that powerful, and wealthy individuals, jumped onto the nonsense claims that a few white-coats made 100+ years ago. why?

 

Personally I blame Fleming.....he started all this making people better lark........ look at the money big pharma is making from penicillin....what a huge con.

[Stiddle Mump]

20 hours ago, farang51 said:

In other words: By all means, do look at the economic interest of people and take that into account - but the important part is the data, not the money.

 

Some people do crazy things not for money but because the believe them - and some people are just trolling, like Stiddle Mump.

 

Again, the data is the important part.

You are off my digital Xmas Card list Sir. For 2025 that is. If you want to get back on it for 2026, try not to be so disingenuous.

 

I seek the truth. If you don't like, agree, or understand that, I can live with it. True, I do like a ruse or two, but on the topics that are health related, I'm simply trying to educate, and get people to think. Also to encourage them to do proper research. Not just listen to the BBC, CNN or read Wikipedia.

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are off my digital Xmas Card list Sir. For 2025 that is. If you want to get back on it for 2026, try not to be so disingenuous.

 

I seek the truth. If you don't like, agree, or understand that, I can live with it. True, I do like a ruse or two, but on the topics that are health related, I'm simply trying to educate, and get people to think. Also to encourage them to do proper research. Not just listen to the BBC, CNN or read Wikipedia.

 

 

.....and we should all be listening to.....?

[Stiddle Mump]

33 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

.....and we should all be listening to.....?

Me for one.

 

Not you of course Will, but the others, who blindly accept the white-coat nonsense as though it was the truth, need to see things differently.

 

The germ theory is just that; a theory. Nature is the truth. You are a part of nature. So am I. It is not out to harm itself.

 

As I have said often enough. Nature is only interested in a few fundamental things. Survival (through protecting itself) and reproduction.

 

Our bodies are ruled by nature. It wants the best for us. It has all the answers; if we care to look.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not you of course Will, but the others, who blindly accept the white-coat nonsense as though it was the truth.

 

The germ theory is just that; a theory. Nature is the truth. You are a part of nature. So am I. It is not out to harm itself.

 

As I have said often enough. Nature is only interested in a few fundamental things. Survival (through protecting itself) and reproduction.

 

Our bodies are ruled by nature. It wants the best for us. It has all the answers; if we care to look.

 

That is so funny....I've copied it, if that's okay, and sent it to all my kids.....their partners all work in health care.

[Stiddle Mump]

24 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

That is so funny....I've copied it, if that's okay, and sent it to all my kids.....their partners all work in health care.

That's OK Will. Good to have you aboard.

 

The more people, especially if they are white-coats, we can get the nature message out to, the better.

 

I believe that the body (mine and yours and everyone's) does the best for us (it) at all times. Of course we have to play our part by giving it the tools to do that; mostly through eating good nutritious food. And avoiding trash food loaded with sugar, salt and chemicals. But also by being at one with nature itself.

 

We must also play our part AMAP in stopping undesirables invading us. After all, you wouldn't light a log fire, and deliberately breathe in the smoke. Our lifestyle is intrinsically linked to good health; or otherwise.

 

[impulse]

On 2/4/2025 at 2:20 PM, farang51 said:

It is very easy: Because stupid people are willing to pay them.

 

"Kennedy has pulled in roughly $10 million in income from his work over the past year, which includes speaking fees, leading an anti-vaccine nonprofit and legal fees, government ethics forms filed for his nomination show. He has millions of dollars more tied up in investments and other assets. "

Source: https://apnews.com/article/rfk-money-vaccines-salary-trump-cfd26a0d9e88e901b596f823a6f766f2

 

 

So you don't think he would have made more (a lot more) by toeing the Big Pharma line when he spoke?

 

How many gigs and how much money did he miss because of his stance?

 

 

[farang51]

26 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

So you don't think he would have made more (a lot more) by toeing the Big Pharma line when he spoke?

 

How many gigs and how much money did he miss because of his stance?

 

 

Probably not much. I am not sure anyone would listen to him if he was "toeing the Big Pharma line". Surely not the people listening to experts as they know he is no expert in the field - they would not pay him to speak of things he knows nothing about. On the other hand, speaking against the experts seems to attrack people that will pay to listen to his crazy (and dangerous) ideas.

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

So you cut yer teeth, so to speak, Dan. You know the business eh!

 

My credentials are; I'm a person that seeks the truth, I am happy with, and can defend my position.

 

Do you not ever consider that we are nature? Nature is us. What you believe, and a whole lot of others as well, is built simply on theoretical falsehoods. That nature is somehow out to get us.

 

If you look back, historically, you will see that powerful, and wealthy individuals, jumped onto the nonsense claims that a few white-coats made 100+ years ago. why? To make money of course! And they are still at it. And their position is built on a theory that does not stand up to scrutiny.

 

As for the FDA?! For my money, there is only one person in that wretched organisation that I have/had any respect for. Yes - you have guessed her name - Frances Kelsey. She, through her belief in seeking the truth, and her immense strength, in resisting the unrelenting Big Pharma pressure she was being subjected to, saved perhaps a million US mothers, from giving birth to deformed babes.

 

Nature has the answers we seek. It's there to help us; not destroy us.

That was a long winded nothing burger. Why did you even reply. If you seek the truth go to credible sources and dont make crap up and post it as fact.

[Stiddle Mump]

7 minutes ago, Dan O said:

That was a long winded nothing burger. Why did you even reply. If you seek the truth go to credible sources and dont make crap up and post it as fact.

Shame you don't want to debate Dan. Never mind.

 

But I'll not stop trying to educate you.

 

Look up Dr Frances Kelsey. They should have made a new Nobel Prize topic just for her. And the winner is Dr Kelsey for her avocation of common sense. Yea!

[Dan O]

3 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Shame you don't want to debate Dan. Never mind.

 

But I'll not stop trying to educate you.

 

Look up Dr Frances Kelsey. They should have made a new Nobel Prize topic just for her. And the winner is Dr Kelsey for her avocation of common sense. Yea!

You cant argue with stupid because its circular 

[Stiddle Mump]

24 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You cant argue with stupid because its circular 

Why not debate Dan?

 

We disagree on some details, Let's have it out.

[NoDisplayName]

On 2/2/2025 at 12:04 PM, Red Phoenix said:

This rather lengthy article by dr Ah Kahn Syed (a pseudonym) on his ArkMedic substack explores the issue from different angles.

 

Great find!

 

Tinfoil underpants conspiracy theories posted by anonymous entities on the innertubes are super credible.

 

At least it's not a chiropractor calling hisself a doctor.

[NoDisplayName]

5 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The germ theory is just that; a theory.

 

I love it when flat earf'ers and reptilian Illuminati conspiratorialists and creationists use that line!

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 2/4/2025 at 2:36 PM, Red Phoenix said:

Interesting...

And you will undoubtedly also find this table interesting

As you go down the list, nearly every senator who gave RFK Jr. a hard time during the hearing was a beneficiary of major pharma bucks. 

Bernie Sanders and Elisabeth Warren respectively for +23 and +10 million US $

 

Those are bogus figures. The actual amount OpenSecrets claimed was donated to Sanders from pharmaceutical companies was about $1.5 million. However even that figure is misleading, as the article below explains. 

 

No, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren aren’t top recipients of pharmaceutical industry donations

 

https://www.statnews.com/2025/02/03/big-pharma-pac-contributions-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-open-secrets-data/

 

Also, Warren is not second in the list from OpenSecrets, she's fifth.

[Stiddle Mump]

8 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

I love it when flat earf'ers and reptilian Illuminati conspiratorialists and creationists use that line!

 

The Germ Theory is just that. There are reasons why we get sick; and germs are not responsible.

 

The Germ Theory was taken on board by wealthy individuals over 100 years ago. They could see the potential for big money to be made if the populas could be convinced of certain things. These people - and those that followed - have dominated western medical science since. So much so, that those speaking out, and explaining there are other reasons for both good and bad health, are rubbished, vilified, and often both threatened and cancelled. 

 

Truth needs defending in the face of nonsense and lies. That's what i do.

 

Truth does not need covering up, and being hidden..                                                                                       

 

 

 

 

[NoDisplayName]

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The Germ Theory is just that. There are reasons why we get sick; and germs are not responsible.

 

Multidimensional gremlins cause disease?

 

Well, it's just a theory.