Trump 2.0 -- Exponentially more damaging than Trump 1.0

[candide]

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

Biden has mental illness, cognitive decline and he's MASSIVELY corrupt and should not only have his security clearance revoked, he should be tried for espionage for selling classified materials after he stole them while he was senator and VP.

He didn't sell secrets. It's a lie!  🙂

[candide]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I don't disagree with the sentiment, but sometimes it's best just to let it go and focus on the tasks at hand. 

 

They'll have plenty to keep them busy as DOGE audits come streaming in.  I'd hate to see those efforts distracted by a Biden trial circus.

 

In particular when there is no incriminating evidence! 🙂

[bannork]

Russia, China and Iran must be laughing

 MAGA Republicans and allies of the Trump Administration are demanding access to sensitive data — including data systems at the U.S. Treasury Department, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and other agencies.

 Warzel and Bogost, reporters for 'The Atlantic', explained: "we spoke with four federal-government IT professionals — all experienced contractors and civil servants who have built, modified, or maintained the kind of technological infrastructure that Musk's inexperienced employees at his newly created Department of Government Efficiency are attempting to access. In our conversations, each expert was unequivocal: They are terrified and struggling to articulate the scale of the crisis."

A contractor who has worked on "classified information-security systems at numerous government agencies, told The Atlantic, "This is the largest data breach and the largest IT security breach in our country's history — at least that's publicly known. You can't un-ring this bell. Once these DOGE guys have access to these data systems, they can ostensibly do with it what they want."

Most of the IT professionals The Atlantic interviewed requested anonymity, including a federal agency administrator who warned, "I don’t think the public quite understands the level of danger."

Scott Cory, former chief information officer for the Administration for Community Living with the HHS, told The Atlantic, "The longer this goes on, the greater the risk of potential fatal compromise increases."

[scottiejohn]

4 hours ago, illisdean said:

he should be tried for espionage for selling classified materials after he stole them while he was senator and VP.

Where is your proof?

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Where is your proof?

Hurr report. Did Maddow and the View not cover that?

[illisdean]

42 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Where is your proof?

Proof of what ? Can u say please? LOL

Are you so ignorant you can't figure anything out? How about Google search....can you use that? Here's a coupon for a free search. Try it out....if it's not too technical, or complicated for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

Proof of what ? Can u say please? LOL

Proof of "selling classified materials after he stole them while he was senator and VP."  AN rules state that reliable links must be provided to support such claims!

Please do so.

[scottiejohn]

54 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Hurr report. Did Maddow and the View not cover that?

Who or what are they?

[candide]

57 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Hurr report. Did Maddow and the View not cover that?

B.S. The Hurr report doesn't show Biden sold secrets, 😆

[illisdean]

6 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

In which case I will ignore your claims and treat them as lies!

Well, you would have no proof of your desperate and benign statement. How about that. As I said, previously , ask nicely, say please, quit demanding, be polite.... who the hell u think you are?

This is your last  chance. Maybe try searching Washington Examiner,  for "evidence....biden kept documents....for $8M book deal...."

Now stop being an ignorant pest and go about your way. 

[candide]

8 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

In which case I will ignore your claims and treat them as lies!

Of course, it was MAGA propaganda lies! 🙂

[SunnyinBangrak]

18 minutes ago, candide said:

B.S. The Hurr report doesn't show Biden sold secrets, 😆

Ah, so dishonest. So you are trying to falsely claim Zwonitzer was writing the book for charitable purposes? I think we all know it was being written for money, and Biden read classified docs to him. So financial gain for sharing top secret classified docs. Nail in the coffin is when Zwonitzer knew there was an investigation he deleted everything. Guilty, guilty, guilty.

Id suggest to ignore what the state propagandists propped up with taxpayers money say, and go directly to the Hurr report.

[Negita43]

He knows it's his last chance to go down in history unless of course he manages to change the 2 term rule but then he would go down in history for the despot he really is.

[candide]

10 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Ah, so dishonest. So you are trying to falsely claim Zwonitzer was writing the book for charitable purposes? I think we all know it was being written for money, and Biden read classified docs to him. So financial gain for sharing top secret classified docs. Nail in the coffin is when Zwonitzer knew there was an investigation he deleted everything. Guilty, guilty, guilty.

Id suggest to ignore what the state propagandists propped up with taxpayers money say, and go directly to the Hurr report.

Incoherent B.S.

When someone sells secrets, he gives secrets and receives money in exchange.

Zwonitzer was paid by Biden, he did not pay Biden. That's completely incoherent! 

 

So who paid Biden and received secrets in exchange?

[illisdean]

52 minutes ago, candide said:

In summary, you have nothing apart from telling others to look by themselves for proof of your lame claim! 😆

Special counsel Hur said it himself, in sworn testimony to the house judiciary committee. Testified there was evidence that Biden willfully retained classified docs for personal gain in an $8M book deal. Don't you know ANYTHING? But since you most likely get your news from the fake news regime media lying mob activists running the biden/democrat protection racket, so how could you know fact from fiction in your deluded world.

 

You're WAY BEHIND, faltering and spinning your wheels like typical biden luvin bidenites. I have pic, showing some proof Biden was paid (personal gain). U want more, go look yourself. 

 

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/2916089/robert-hur-says-evidence-biden-kept-classified-documents-book-deal/

 

 

 

[candide]

48 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Special counsel Hur said it himself, in sworn testimony to the house judiciary committee. Testified there was evidence that Biden willfully retained classified docs for personal gain in an $8M book deal. Don't you know ANYTHING? But since you most likely get your news from the fake news regime media lying mob activists running the biden/democrat protection racket, so how could you know fact from fiction in your deluded world.

 

You're WAY BEHIND, faltering and spinning your wheels like typical biden luvin bidenites. I have pic, showing some proof Biden was paid (personal gain). U want more, go look yourself. 

 

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/2916089/robert-hur-says-evidence-biden-kept-classified-documents-book-deal/

 

 

 

Blah blah!

 

You claimed he sold secrets. Hur never said he sold secrets. there is no quote that he said or wrote that. It's a lie! 

 

Who gave him money and received secrets in exchange? No one! 

[illisdean]

How damaging is it to reduce the size and reach of gov't AND uncovering and exposing fraud and wasteful spending unless you are a fraudster who is damaged by Trump DOGE exposing their fraud along with their plan to undo & "undamage" deep state fraud and abuse. DOGE is another example Trump's 2.0 WINNING concept realized again translating into a huge WIN for America.

 

WAPO as usual are fulfilling their role as regime media activists running their protection racket for to corrupt democrats. 

 

 

[illisdean]

Trump 2.0 illustrating the Trump Effect in progress...

 

Nothing "damaging"....no damage to see here ....unless you are a Trump hater who hates when Trump performs his magic bringing prosperity back to America via his adept foreign policy and negotiating abilities. Trump working to "undamage" the Biden 4 year dumpster fire reign of damage to America.

 

https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/politics-government/20250208-237666/

 

 

 

[illisdean]

5 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Trump 2.0 illustrating the Trump Effect in progress...

For illustrative purposes and FYI:  The Trump Effect         (now do Biden)

 

 

 

 

https://www.teneo.com/app/uploads/2024/12/Teneo-Vision-2025-CEO-and-Investor-Outlook-Survey.pdf

[scottiejohn]

20 hours ago, candide said:

Of course, it was MAGA propaganda lies! 🙂

I know!

I was just trying to see what new lies these MAGAlomaniacs would come up with!

[scottiejohn]

18 hours ago, candide said:

Blah blah!

 

You claimed he sold secrets. Hur never said he sold secrets. there is no quote that he said or wrote that. It's a lie! 

 

Who gave him money and received secrets in exchange? No one! 

It is noticeable that the link is behind a paywall and the copy posted is unreadable.  NO evidence of any secrets for sale.

[illisdean]

49 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

It is noticeable that the link is behind a paywall and the copy posted is unreadable.  NO evidence of any secrets for sale.

Never let a paywall interfere with your obvious and desperate obfuscation, denials, butt hurt and Trump hating delusions and defeat. Don't forget why Biden was not prosecuted for espionage for willfully retaining classified materials for which SC Hur established his prima facia case against Biden but declined to prosecute because [he was an old man with a poor memory...], too mentally incompetent to face indictment and trial.  And on it goes and soon thereafter when Trump humiliated Biden in the CNN debate only to be rejected and thrown out by his own party to be replaced by an unelected and less favorable candidate on their way to a massive and humiliating LANDSLIDE beat-down compliments of your beloved President Trump. Sounds like a whole lot of big failures for Biden and of course the exact opposite for Trump now.

Bye bye losers...don't cry to hard and ENJOY waking up to sounds of the 24/7 MAGA Trump DOGE and Elon show each and every morning.

 

 

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/robert-hur-says-there-s-evidence-biden-kept-classified-documents-for-8-million-book-deal/ar-BB1jLT8g

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[candide]

23 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I know!

I was just trying to see what new lies these MAGAlomaniacs would come up with!

 

19 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

It is noticeable that the link is behind a paywall and the copy posted is unreadable.  NO evidence of any secrets for sale.

Nothing new! He came up with the old "Jim Jordan said" trick, trying to pass it off as what Hur said!  😆

 

There is no quote of Hur saying or writing that Biden sold secrets.

 

They are not even able to claim who gave money to Biden and received secrets in exchange! 😆

[candide]

2 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Never let a paywall interfere with your obvious and desperate obfuscation, denials, butt hurt and Trump hating delusions and defeat. Don't forget why Biden was not prosecuted for espionage for willfully retaining classified materials for which SC Hur established his prima facia case against Biden but declined to prosecute because [he was an old man with a poor memory...], too mentally incompetent to face indictment and trial.  And on it goes and soon thereafter when Trump humiliated Biden in the CNN debate only to be rejected and thrown out by his own party to be replaced by an unelected and less favorable candidate on their way to a massive and humiliating LANDSLIDE beat-down compliments of your beloved President Trump. Sounds like a whole lot of big failures for Biden and of course the exact opposite for Trump now.

Bye bye losers...don't cry to hard and ENJOY waking up to sounds of the 24/7 MAGA Trump DOGE and Elon show each and every morning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blah blah!

 

You quote the liar Jim Jordan! 🤣

 

There is no quote from Hur saying that Biden sold secrets in your source. It's a lie!

 

Why can't you answer this simple question: who gave money to Biden and received secrets in exchange?

[GammaGlobulin]

In my opinion, Trump 2.0 is the improved version.

 

My guess is that Trump has learned a thing or two since his first occupation of the WH.

 

Trump is a much humbler man, these days, full of introspection and humility.

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

13 minutes ago, candide said:

 

Nothing new! He came up with the old "Jim Jordan said" trick, trying to pass it off as what Hur said!  😆

 

There is no quote of Hur saying or writing that Biden sold secrets.

 

They are not even able to claim who gave money to Biden and received secrets in exchange! 😆

You are going to love this. Selling classified info on Ukraine. Ah the laptop, no wonder the left tried falsely claiming it was made up by Americas mayor.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/06/11/hunter-bidens-suspicious-email-on-ukraine-raises-red-flag-for-probe?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

[phetphet]

Is there a reason why all outgoing US Presidents don't have their Security Clearance rescinded? Seems to me to be more secure that way. Just like any other job.

 

Musk will definitely make massive savings for the gov't, USAID being a prime example, but giving him and his minions, all unelected,  read / write access to both code and classified data at the Treasury just seems wrong on so many levels.  Especially if they likely have a "Get Out of Jail Free Card" a.k.a.  a Presidential Pardon to cover them to at the end of Trump's term.

 

 

[candide]

13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You are going to love this. Selling classified info on Ukraine. Ah the laptop, no wonder the left tried falsely claiming it was made up by Americas mayor.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/06/11/hunter-bidens-suspicious-email-on-ukraine-raises-red-flag-for-probe?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

I love it becwuse it confi4ms you have nothing,

Another source (from 2023) not showing evidence of what you claim it shows! 😆

 

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

In my opinion, Trump 2.0 is the improved version.

Of what?

[GammaGlobulin]

9 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Of what?

 

Compared to the original least improved version.

Trump is improving with age, just like the fine wine he is.

What kind of wine?

 

How do I compare thee, Mr. Trump?

Lovely, like the bouquet of ....say...

Zinfandel?

 

And, Trump is becoming riper by the day.