PON SFP compatible with AIS

[Ronit Bhattacharjee]

It’s a long shot, but here goes.
 

I currently have AIS fiber at home. The GPON fiber terminates on AIS’s ZTE router (In Bridge mode) and my own router hangs off it and does everything else.
 

I would like to get rid of AIS’s router altogether and terminate the fiber directly on my router using a PON SFP (Also called PON stick). 
 

Now, in general, this requires extracting anything from the provider ONU serial number to MAC address, authentication keys (how many parameters depends on the ISP) to the new PON stick. 
 

I would like to know if anyone here has done this specifically for AIS and if so, what exactly did they need to do. 
 

Thanks in advance. 

[recom273]

Have you tried contacting the ISP? They might be able to help. 
 

If you want to ditch your router and want a cleaner solution, you could use a Huawei EG8010 ONT. You can find them on lazada. There is a guide here on how to put them into bridge mode.

 

I am on 3BB which has been bought out by AIS. I use the Huawei ONT which I get from the ISP, it’s rock solid, apart from when I move house and then everything goes to crap - there is a guy at the 3BB office who actually does understand and he helps me out, there is a bit of config on the isp server afaik. You could try contacting someone on the ISP team and explain that your want to use the SPF port on your own router. 
 

I was a structured cable engineer, it’s not really my dept. but there would be a cab in a data center that would contain the kit for the ISP. You wouldn’t have a bank of cheap wifi routers in bridge mode hanging off the back of the shelf. What do they do in Thailand? Try speaking to anyone at the ISP about enterprise solutions and  no one can speak to you. Good luck, just out of interest, what are you using a unifi or fortinet router? 

[Ronit Bhattacharjee]

Thanks, but I really want to use my own router, which is quite high end and has WiFi 7 etc. 

 

I will try to talk to AIS about the SFP, but don’t have much hopes. 

[bamnutsak]

Check on Facebook and pantip.com

 

two examples, there are more out there.

 

https://pantip.com/topic/41371009

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/180446535798602/posts/1714825082360732/

 

Sounds like the adapter needs to be SFP and you need to change/clone/match the S/N and MAC address.

 

[muratremix]

ISPs can use password auth / mac auth for PON. I was unable to use an external PON device with 3BB because of that. Just FYI.

[clokwise]

I genuinely curious why you want to do this. I have had a similar idea but ultimately decided running a CAT6 between the AIS router and my own hi-end router was good enough.

 

I also switched over to Bridge mode but didn't notice any bandwidth or network improvements - AIS bandwidth is all over the map throughout the day anyway so it's hard to tell. Here's the last 24 hours...

 

[recom273]

On 2/18/2025 at 8:49 AM, clokwise said:

I genuinely curious why you want to do this. I have had a similar idea but ultimately decided running a CAT6 between the AIS router and my own hi-end router was good enough.

 

I also switched over to Bridge mode but didn't notice any bandwidth or network improvements - AIS bandwidth is all over the map throughout the day anyway so it's hard to tell. Here's the last 24 hours...

 

You may not notice any difference when not using bridge mode on the AIS router, but you create a double NAT - https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-double-NAT-and-why-is-it-bad it makes it difficult to be connectable to the outside world which may not effect you, depending upon your setup, security cameras, maybe if you play online games which depend upon speed, torrents will find it difficult to connect, but peers will eventually connect to you. It’s not really good practice to have a double NAT. 

[muratremix]

On 2/20/2025 at 12:43 PM, recom273 said:

You may not notice any difference when not using bridge mode on the AIS router, but you create a double NAT - https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-double-NAT-and-why-is-it-bad it makes it difficult to be connectable to the outside world which may not effect you, depending upon your setup, security cameras, maybe if you play online games which depend upon speed, torrents will find it difficult to connect, but peers will eventually connect to you. It’s not really good practice to have a double NAT. 

bridge mode does not cause double nat. 

[recom273]

4 hours ago, muratremix said:

bridge mode does not cause double nat. 

The poster says, that he doesn’t experience any slow down either using bridge mode or not. I posted that if he doesn’t use his router in bridge mode then he will create a double NAT.