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1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

No, that was not a statement by Trump, but just about everything Trump says and does is irresponible.

And there is this concept. Time to stop bitchin and moaning.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Then, there will probably be more deaths and hostages taken. 

especially in a 2 state solution UNLESS off course the IDF tactically tunes up Iran to the point of near extinction, then the hamas's, hezbollahs et al will be relegated to the feckless status of sandblasted goat shaggers.

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1 minute ago, illisdean said:
14 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

It's discriminating against people that are not citizens of the USA. 

and your point is? Trump campaigned on America first, not America Second because the grifters of the world feel discriminated against. Wake TF up.

I agree with you that "America First" is what Trump ran on and was elected to do. As a far-left liberal, I disagree wholeheartedly with that and would rather see the USA share its wealth and resources with the parts of the world that need them. 

I do not need to "Wake TF up." I am already woke. Hopefully, someday, people like you (I assume you are a US citizen like me) who voted Trump into power will be also. Until then, our country will continue to writhe in turmoil.

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6 minutes ago, illisdean said:

And there is this concept. Time to stop bitchin and moaning.

There will be a lot of time for "bitchin and moaning" over the next four years, so get used to it.

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3 minutes ago, illisdean said:

especially in a 2 state solution UNLESS off course the IDF tactically tunes up Iran to the point of near extinction, then the hamas's, hezbollahs et al will be relegated to the feckless status of sandblasted goat shaggers.

Your insulting description of Arabs as "sandblasted goat shaggers" tells it all. I'm done responding to you. You are what I think is wrong with the USA. I hope you wake up. 

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16 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Your insulting description of Arabs as "sandblasted goat shaggers" tells it all. I'm done responding to you. You are what I think is wrong with the USA. I hope you wake up. 

Oh, I didn't say Arabs, that would be you staying that, but yes they are Arabs and they are also terror groups (Hamas, what remains of them: Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya (Islamic Resistance Movement), is a Palestinian Sunni Islamist group founded in 1987 during the First Intifada), and hezbollah: Shiite Muslim militant, another terror group. Their purpose is to destroy Israel and only the truly moronic would suggest another 2 state solution with these sandblasted Arab terror groups lurking within.

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6 hours ago, illisdean said:

Oh, I didn't say Arabs, that would be you staying that, but yes they are Arabs and they are also terror groups (Hamas, what remains of them: Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya (Islamic Resistance Movement), is a Palestinian Sunni Islamist group founded in 1987 during the First Intifada), and hezbollah: Shiite Muslim militant, another terror group. Their purpose is to destroy Israel and only the truly moronic would suggest another 2 state solution with these sandblasted Arab terror groups lurking within.

He's a leftist, as such all he can do is lie and misrepresent what you say. 

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On 2/7/2025 at 11:26 AM, impulse said:

 

That may be the juiciest part of the whole story.  I wonder if he recruited them from any campus protests?

 

 

Intelligent in the use of computers? Perhaps ... although one would think they might have asked old hands about the 1875 code date that kept appearing. As an educator having taught middle, high school and undergraduate classes for 41 years ... most 19 year olds having the needed experience interaction capable of the current assignment? Duh ... fire those responsible for nuclear safety? Critical medical care? Consumer protection? Safe airtime traffic? Have at it and learn the lesson ... the hard way. It really is a sad irony, yesterday I support continious government review, that is why we have Inspector Generals, for example.

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1 minute ago, Wrwest said:

Intelligent in the use of computers? Perhaps ... although one would think they might have asked old hands about the 1875 code date that kept appearing. As an educator having taught middle, high school and undergraduate classes for 41 years ... most 19 year olds having the needed experience interaction capable of the current assignment? Duh ... fire those responsible for nuclear safety? Critical medical care? Consumer protection? Safe airtime traffic? Have at it and learn the lesson ... the hard way. It really is a sad irony, yesterday I support continious government review, that is why we have Inspector Generals, for example.

 

You mean the old salts that kept millions of dead people on the Social Security database for decades?

 

Riddle me this....  How do you plan, forecast and manage a program like that if the data is that corrupt?  Even if only a few $billion was paid out to long dead people, that's just not acceptable.

 

Transportation secretary just visited an FAA control tower and found out they're still using floppy disks on some of their critical systems.  How is that acceptable?

 

If the old salts are that complacent. maybe it's time for pimple faced computer geniuses.  Not to make the decisions, but to ferret out the problems.  So the adults have the data to make the decisions.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

You mean the old salts that kept millions of dead people on the Social Security database for decades?

 

Riddle me this....  How do you plan, forecast and manage a program like that if the data is that corrupt?  Even if only a few $billion was paid out to long dead people, that's just not acceptable.

 

Transportation secretary just visited an FAA control tower and found out they're still using floppy disks on some of their critical systems.  How is that acceptable?

 

If the old salts are that complacent. maybe it's time for pimple faced computer geniuses.  Not to make the decisions, but to ferret out the problems.  So the adults have the data to make the decisions.

 

 

 

 

"... kept millions of dead people on the Social Security database for decades"? No factual evidence of this being true has been presented. We agree, there is a need for continuous review of all laws/regulations to see if the original cause for those laws/regulations are still valid, if the current law/regulation is addressing the original need effectively and if not does it need "tweaking" or new legislation/regulation. As to "floppy disks"? Buy updated equipment ... oops, we spend too much money already!? A reasoned, systematic review ... not the current declaring of mass firings, shutting downindependent agencies.

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1 minute ago, Wrwest said:

"... kept millions of dead people on the Social Security database for decades"? No factual evidence of this being true has been presented. We agree, there is a need for continuous review of all laws/regulations to see if the original cause for those laws/regulations are still valid, if the current law/regulation is addressing the original need effectively and if not does it need "tweaking" or new legislation/regulation. As to "floppy disks"? Buy updated equipment ... oops, we spend too much money already!? A reasoned, systematic review ... not the current declaring of mass firings, shutting downindependent agencies.

What constitutes "factual" evident to you? 

 

If Kamala Harris said it, you would call it proof. 

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

What constitutes "factual" evident to you? 

 

If Kamala Harris said it, you would call it proof. 

Thank you , its so true! The socialist 

are all  burdened by Trump ,especially the non citizens . 

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On 2/6/2025 at 10:19 PM, rwilem said:

Thanks to the efforts of the DOGE wunderkinds one of the pillars of the deep state, the administrative state, is being ripped apart and dismantled in real time. The dems and former regime-now-turned-resistance media are howling hysterically, having gone into meltdown mode. Wonder why? The corruption and grift of so many of them (all?) have been exposed, and it's all coming to an end. But in addition to the corruption we also have to consider the psyops perpetrated on the Americsn people. 

 

"The DOGE discoveries are not just about "wasted" taxpayer funds. The real story, the 5 alarm fire, is that USAID was literally funding an entirely hand crafted pseudo-reality. Not just in America but all over the world. You were robbed to fund global psychological operations.

 

-Buying off media outlets

 

-Pushing advertiser Boycotts against X and Rumble as they attempted to decrease censorship (AKA narrative control)

 

-Pushing war propaganda

 

-Funding opposition groups in foreign lands to foment revolutions

 

-Funding lawfare against the former president of the united states and his supporters (I could go on for an hour)

 

People get caught up on the "$100K to study cocaines' impact on chihuahua" stories. That is not the headline here.

 

The headline here is: The US government robbed you blind in an effort to control your mind That's about as big as it gets."

 

Lefties can cry and moan all they want. They just continue denying reality, as they always do. 

 

 

 

 

 

This really hasn't aged well at all.

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Reveals that…. Are you ready?

 

American farmers got good prices for their crops and poor people got food.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Aged better than your presenting satire as fact😂🤣

This has got to be one of the most clueless comments I have ever read in this forum. I wish I found it hard to believe that you could mistake what I presented there as facts.

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Posted
1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Giving your appetite for falsehoods, I'm not surprised.

If I did not have an appetite for falsehoods, I would refuse to discuss anything with you, or any other leftist. 

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24 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

If I did not have an appetite for falsehoods, I would refuse to discuss anything with you, or any other leftist. 

I believe you when you say that you have an appetite for falsehoods. And the proof of that is you reject what I say. For instance, many of the claims made by the OP have been proven to be false. And no, I'm not going to list them for you as they've been gone over in great detail repeatedly in this thread.

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3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I believe you when you say that you have an appetite for falsehoods. And the proof of that is you reject what I say. For instance, many of the claims made by the OP have been proven to be false. And no, I'm not going to list them for you as they've been gone over in great detail repeatedly in this thread.

You never say anything. I've been wrong any number of times, but what have I lied about? 

 

Do you think there is any waste or fraud of programs that work against the interest of the United States or not? 

 

I'm happy to discuss anything. 

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16 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You never say anything. I've been wrong any number of times, but what have I lied about? 

 

Do you think there is any waste or fraud of programs that work against the interest of the United States or not? 

 

I'm happy to discuss anything. 

Actually, I am usually criticized for providing too much evidence. Can I help it if you can't be bothered to read what the links I post lead to?

The United States government is a huge entity. Of course, there's going to be waste and fraud. Just like there's going to be waste and fraud in any large organization including Tesla. The issue is how do you deal with it? Would Tesla shut down its assembly lines on the suspicion that there might be waste and/or fraud in its part dept?. I doubt it, and neither should the Federal govt. What Trump and Musk have done is to gut programs on a presumptive basis. 

We have seen so many of Musk's claims disintegrate. Yet that doesn't seem to bother those who back his efforts.

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1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Actually, I am usually criticized for providing too much evidence.

You are conflating data with evidence. Yes, you post countless links to nonsense that generally does not support your claims, and you never seem to be able to answer questions honestly. 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Can I help it if you can't be bothered to read what the links I post lead to?

I doubt very much you bother reading much of what you link to. The times I have bothered reading what you link to, It has never supported your claim. Then when you get called on out for it, you just post another link. 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

The United States government is a huge entity. Of course, there's going to be waste and fraud. Just like there's going to be waste and fraud in any large organization including Tesla. The issue is how do you deal with it? Would Tesla shut down its assembly lines on the suspicion that there might be waste and/or fraud in its part dept?. I doubt it, and neither should the Federal govt. What Trump and Musk have done is to gut programs on a presumptive basis. 

Tesla would absolutely shut its line down it they discovered fraudulent parts in their inventory, as would Toyota or any reputable manufacturer. 

 

I worked for $500M private company that was purchased by a $60B public company. The shut all the plants (at least 15), engineering, sales and management down on the same day for 48 hours, locked everyone out of the system, and did physical inventories of all material, work in process, finished good, office supplies and assets. They went thought all the accounts, every quote and every project. 

 

What program has been gutted/eliminated that you think has/had significant value?  

 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

We have seen so many of Musk's claims disintegrate. Yet that doesn't seem to bother those who back his efforts.

 

Oh, he said condoms and it was birth control, and it wasn't Gazs it was some other place. People that talk off the top of their head often make mistakes. 

 

Trump has answered more questions from the press in the last two weeks than Biden has in the last four years. 

 

 

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Just saw an Aussie broadcaster end his bit with "thank God he turned his head".

 

I'm going to put that on a T-shirt.  Darn near blew coffee out my nose when he said that.

 

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