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Rising Anti-Israel Sentiments in Pai Following Tourists Misconduct


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On 2/10/2025 at 5:22 AM, RJRS1301 said:

Please understand that being anti- genocide is not anti- Semitism

Many Israelis are not Zionists

Most current Israelis are of European decent, not from Middle Eastern heritage and have no historical connection to the land

Do you realise that Palestinians/Hamas want to wipe Israel off the face off the Earth? Is that not genocide? If you're going to be anti-genocide, then it works both ways.

 

Anyway, back to the story. Are they not being served because they are Israeli, or just because they're being dicks? I'm quite sure there are objectionable tourists of all ethnicities, so why detail them as Israeli? 

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4 minutes ago, mattyc1957 said:

Do you realise that Palestinians/Hamas want to wipe Israel off the face off the Earth? Is that not genocide? If you're going to be anti-genocide, then it works both ways.

 

Anyway, back to the story. Are they not being served because they are Israeli, or just because they're being dicks? I'm quite sure there are objectionable tourists of all ethnicities, so why detail them as Israeli? 

Hamas never said this at any time. Would you not fight being oppressed by another ethnic group? That is what Hamas does. No oppression, no Hamas. 

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7 minutes ago, mattyc1957 said:

Do you realise that Palestinians/Hamas want to wipe Israel off the face off the Earth? Is that not genocide? If you're going to be anti-genocide, then it works both ways.

 

Anyway, back to the story. Are they not being served because they are Israeli, or just because they're being dicks? I'm quite sure there are objectionable tourists of all ethnicities, so why detail them as Israeli? 

Because they are outright rude & nasty, entitled. Not just to Thais but would be towards you as well. My experience from having had to deal with them professionally.

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On 2/9/2025 at 9:22 PM, RJRS1301 said:

Please understand that being anti- genocide is not anti- Semitism

 

Just for clarification, are you talking about the genocide that is written into the founding charter of Hamas; to eradicate all Jews, not just in Israel, but in the entire world. If you are not, then you do not even understand the meaning of the word ‘genocide’ and are just promoting the propaganda of a terrorist organisation.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Letseng said:

Hamas never said this at any time. Would you not fight being oppressed by another ethnic group? That is what Hamas does. No oppression, no Hamas. 

 

Hamas was formed in December 1987, I suggest you read their Covenant declared in August 1988.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Letseng said:

Hamas never said this at any time. Would you not fight being oppressed by another ethnic group? That is what Hamas does. No oppression, no Hamas. 

Incorrect. No democrat funding, no hamas.

 

israeli tourists are no worse than the russian chinese or indian ones in thailand. The only difference is, thailand can discriminate against israelis because they dont lose business over it

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37 minutes ago, mattyc1957 said:

Do you realise that Palestinians/Hamas want to wipe Israel off the face off the Earth? 

I'm sure the same thing has been said in the Israeli Parliament about the Palestinians, many times .....

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Please discuss the topic here which is:

 

Rising Anti-Israel Sentiments in Pai Following Tourists Misconduct

 

Failing to do so will be wasting your time as the post will be removed.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Letseng said:

Because they are outright rude & nasty, entitled. Not just to Thais but would be towards you as well. My experience from having had to deal with them professionally.

And your profession is?

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2 hours ago, Letseng said:

Kosher cooking means special pans & no pork in your kitchen. Not just cooking without pork. 

 

Yes, I know what kosher means. And that is why I do not find it a credible story. If someone wanted  a kosher meal, it means that the entire food  system had to be kosher; from the  type of food, to the slaughtering of the animal, to the preparation etc. It is unlikely that someone would go to a small local restaurant that prepares "italian" cuisine and ask for a kosher meal. It would not be possible to provide such a meal even if someone said yes. I was trying to be nice by suggesting that perhaps a dish made without pork was requested, rather than to call the person a liar.

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2 hours ago, Letseng said:

Because they are outright rude & nasty, entitled. Not just to Thais but would be towards you as well. My experience from having had to deal with them professionally.

 

I see that antisemitism in Thailand is not restricted to Pai; that’s some sweeping generalisation that you have made.

 

 

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Just put up a sign that says 'While some vegetarian dishes are available, this restaurant does not cater to religious-based diets or exclusions". Translate it into Hebrew, Arabic and Hindi. That should cover most of the tourist's languages of customers that you'd encounter. Add that phrase prominently into the menus. Problem solved. The young Israeli tourists in Pai and elsewhere that cause problems are probably just the same self-entitled lot we see from many countries including our own. People that need a sl@p  - but never get one. Unfortunately.

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On 2/10/2025 at 4:49 AM, Aussie999 said:

A few Israelis cause a disturbance and we see this article, signs banning Israelis, Israelis deported, but not the same action against Russians, Indians, Poms, Aussies and many other nationalities... I guess too many, and too much money lost, and maybe Israelis refuse to pay the corruption payments.

Israelis do have a particular 'charm' that tends to make them stand out over all other nationalities. 😁

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8 hours ago, LetsGoJoe said:

Israelis do have a particular 'charm' that tends to make them stand out over all other nationalities. 😁

I've never noticed they act differently, the ones I know are usually quiet, well behaved, and respectful.

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On 2/17/2025 at 2:23 AM, Patong2021 said:

 

If your restaurant closed at 10pm and the people showed up at 10:20 pm, why not tell them the kitchen was closed?

I doubt that you were asked if you cooked kosher. The Israelis are well aware that Thailand is not a kosher country and they are most likely not keeping kosher if they are in Pattaya and are certainly not going to find a kosher restaurant on the outskirts of  Pattaya. I expect that they asked if you can cook without pork.  It is not an unreasonable request as several of my very Italian friends avoid pork and processed meat. It is related to health issues. My muslim friend does not eat prok either and asks for dishes without pork.  I avoid pork in Thailand because of the over use of  chemicals and antibiotics and I disapprove of the  factory farming.   How about being honest and not spitting out a story that conforms with your pre-existing bias?


Customer service is an attitude and not a department; hence we would have cooked them either pasta or pizza. They asked if we could cook kosher and no, pork and or seafood were not mentioned. As a food professional I know what kosher, halal and other cooking rules there are. 

I am not "spitting" anything but in my entire life never ever had such a confrontation. Then of course the whole story about kosher and halal food dates back hundreds of years where refrigeration was not possible. Seafood and pork meat go off first, specially in the  geographical area from where these religions originate from. Back then all this made sense, today it is nothing but yet another religious brainwashing. 
We had other Jewish customers who asked for non-pork dishes, of which we had plenty and never had an issue. It is predominantly the younger spoilt generation which, in their arrogance, try to be special by asking for kosher food in an Italian restaurant. Ever tried to get a pizza in a Japanese Tepanyaki outlet? No? Would you ask for pizza? No? Because it is clearly NOT a pizza shop and an Italian restaurant is clearly not a kosher eatery. 

Kosher cooking means much more than no pork/seafood; different kitchens, cooking ware, never cook meat with milk/cheese/cream etc. This is only to correct your wrong assumptions and your ill-gotten expectations of what these kids wanted! 

You may now kiss the ring! 

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On 2/16/2025 at 6:04 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Amazing in 15 years only one group from Israel causing a problem and you then go ahead and ban all that ask for kosher food.

 

Ever had any other nationalities causing a problem in that 15 years?


The Kosher crowd is pure headache while they do not eat in special kosher restaurants since "the food there is too expensive" - your call! And no, never had any issues with any other food preference with any of the thousands of guests we had 😉 

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2 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:


The Kosher crowd is pure headache while they do not eat in special kosher restaurants since "the food there is too expensive" - your call! And no, never had any issues with any other food preference with any of the thousands of guests we had 😉 

Yes I noticed you banned one group after one visit. Not sure how you know about all the others

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12 hours ago, Sydebolle said:


Customer service is an attitude and not a department; hence we would have cooked them either pasta or pizza. They asked if we could cook kosher and no, pork and or seafood were not mentioned. As a food professional I know what kosher, halal and other cooking rules there are. 

I am not "spitting" anything but in my entire life never ever had such a confrontation. Then of course the whole story about kosher and halal food dates back hundreds of years where refrigeration was not possible. Seafood and pork meat go off first, specially in the  geographical area from where these religions originate from. Back then all this made sense, today it is nothing but yet another religious brainwashing. 
We had other Jewish customers who asked for non-pork dishes, of which we had plenty and never had an issue. It is predominantly the younger spoilt generation which, in their arrogance, try to be special by asking for kosher food in an Italian restaurant. Ever tried to get a pizza in a Japanese Tepanyaki outlet? No? Would you ask for pizza? No? Because it is clearly NOT a pizza shop and an Italian restaurant is clearly not a kosher eatery. 

Kosher cooking means much more than no pork/seafood; different kitchens, cooking ware, never cook meat with milk/cheese/cream etc. This is only to correct your wrong assumptions and your ill-gotten expectations of what these kids wanted! 

You may now kiss the ring! 

 

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I doubt very much anyone would walk into a Thai restaurant, on the outskirts of Pattaya of all places and expect to find a kosher option.

 

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13 hours ago, Sydebolle said:


The Kosher crowd is pure headache while they do not eat in special kosher restaurants since "the food there is too expensive" - your call! And no, never had any issues with any other food preference with any of the thousands of guests we had 😉 

 

Jews who are serious about keeping kosher, whether from Israel or another country, only eat in restaurants which have been certified as kosher by a rabbi or rabbinic  agency.  It surprises me that Israelis would ask about kosher dishes at a pizzeria in Pattaya. It's exremely difficult to obtain kosher ingredients, especially beef, in Thailand. You can't make kosher food from ingredients you buy through  normal restaurant food supply channels.   Moreover, it's  nearly impossible for a restaurant that serves both kosher and non-kosher food to be certified kosher.  The restaurant would have to have two seperate kitchens and no equipment or utensils could be shared between them.  How likely is that?

 

However, far from all Jews follow kosher strictly.  There's a sliding scale for observing kosher, from "very strictly" to "not at all."  It's entirely possible Israelis who aren't worried about kosher would  eat in a Pattaya pizzeria, but I doubt they'd ask about kosher meals.

 

A kosher pizzeria in Jerusalem:

 

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1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Jews who are serious about keeping kosher, whether from Israel or another country, only eat in restaurants which have been certified as kosher by a rabbi or rabbinic  agency.  It surprises me that Israelis would ask about kosher dishes at a pizzeria in Pattaya. It's exremely difficult to obtain kosher ingredients, especially beef, in Thailand. You can't make kosher food from ingredients you buy through  normal restaurant food supply channels.   Moreover, it's  nearly impossible for a restaurant that serves both kosher and non-kosher food to be certified kosher.  The restaurant would have to have two seperate kitchens and no equipment or utensils could be shared between them.  How likely is that?

 

However, far from all Jews follow kosher strictly.  There's a sliding scale for observing kosher, from "very strictly" to "not at all."  It's entirely possible Israelis who aren't worried about kosher would  eat in a Pattaya pizzeria, but I doubt they'd ask about kosher meals.

 

A kosher pizzeria in Jerusalem:

 

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This is a red herring. Jews aren't demanding non Kosher restaurants to make special Kosher meals for them. That's absurd. As said, Jews who are strictly Kosher make a lifestyle about it, and yes it's possible in Thailand but difficult and expensive. Chabad restaurants and ordering Chabad food to be shipped. Some Jews might ask for no pork, no shellfish, or even don't mix meat and dairy at a non-Kosher restaurant. They can ask. What's the big deal? 

There used to be a pizza place in Pattaya that catered to Israelis. I doubt it was strictly Kosher but I doubt they had ham and cheese pizzas either.

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