The Times has obtained the complete transcript of a Labour Party WhatsApp group chat

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With Labour MPs Suspended Over Leaked WhatsApp Group Messages. The Times has obtained the complete transcript of a Labour Party WhatsApp group chat, revealing half a million words exchanged between 2019 and 2022. The private group, known as "Trigger Me Timbers," consisted of around 16 members, but leaked excerpts have resulted in the suspension of two Labour MPs, Oliver Ryan and Andrew Gwynne, as well as a dozen councillors.

 

 

The messages range from routine campaign discussions to highly offensive comments, including racist, sexist, and derogatory remarks. The group often engaged in attacks on party members, particularly those on the left. In some instances, members ridiculed an autistic colleague, while others encouraged spreading false rumors about a gay Labour MP engaging in "sex parties."

 

 

Oliver Ryan took aim at Richard Burgon, who served as shadow justice secretary under Jeremy Corbyn, stating that in one interview, Burgon "sounds so thick." When Andrew Gwynne learned that Burgon had publicly praised him, he responded sarcastically, saying: "Am about to disinfect myself. My career is over."

 

 

Ryan also referred to MP Marsha de Cordova, who has a visual impairment, as "the blind one from Battersea." Gwynne replied: "Or did you mean Marsha? That’s so disablist!!! Appalled Oliver." Ryan then mockingly imitated Jeremy Corbyn’s style of reading letters during Prime Minister’s Questions, writing: "Marsh[a] from Battersea wrote to me and said, I can’t find my way out of the office send help."

 

Diane Abbott, the first Black MP to represent her party at Prime Minister’s Questions, was also ridiculed. Gwynne remarked that she was chosen for the occasion "because it’s Black History Month." When another member suggested alternative choices, including David Lammy or the "corpse of Bernie Grant"—one of Britain’s first Black MPs—Gwynne responded with: "Or Desmond Swayne? Justin Trudeau." This was a reference to the Tory MP and Canadian Prime Minister, both of whom had previously caused controversy for wearing blackface.

 

Another message saw a group member urging Gwynne to spread false rumors about a gay Labour MP "having sex parties" with "decrepit trade unionists." Gwynne simply responded: "Haha." He also made disparaging remarks about his own constituents. Speaking of one, he wrote that he had "positive visions of him getting mown down" by a bin lorry. In another instance, he described an encounter with a constituent who criticized the party’s lack of local work. Recounting the exchange, Gwynne claimed he replied: "It is a shithole and you fucking well live in it!" before walking away and flashing a rude gesture at the woman when she asked him to repeat himself.

 

At another point in the chat, Gwynne used the term "illiterate retard" to insult someone. Other MPs targeted in the group included Rachael Maskell and Dawn Butler. Laura Pidcock and Sam Tarry, both of whom were prominent left-wing MPs under Corbyn but later lost their seats, were mocked as "Cockpid" and "trotty," respectively. Additionally, a future MP who later entered Parliament was referred to in the chat as "a lying fat useless bastard."

 

The revelations have sparked outrage within the Labour Party and beyond, leading to the suspension of Ryan and Gwynne. The full impact of these messages on their political careers remains to be seen, but the leaked transcript has already dealt a serious blow to their reputations.

 

Based on a report by The Times 2025-02-14

 

 

[blazes]

Much ado about sod-all.  Is there any one on this thread who can truly claim never to refer to others in these ways, especially after one has come across some retarded nonsense spewed out by a well-known politician or some idiot in one's workplace?

 

Needless to say one can expect grovelling apologies from the miscreants....

[hotsun]

The British government would better be entrusted to apes

[Homburg]

Hey Britain, you get what you vote for.

[hotandsticky]

34 minutes ago, Homburg said:

Hey Britain, you get what you vote for.

 

 

Yes, that is the problem with democracy. 

[thesetat]

I am curious as to why this in even news? They joined a group and now are posting and criticizing what they read in it. None of which appears to be threatening or coercing.  People have opinions and chat groups are utilized to express those opinions. Just as we do in this site. 

[JonnyF]

It's great that the world can see what many of us have known for years.

 

Labour is full of nasty racist anti-semites.

 

This is the tip of the iceberg. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

I am curious as to why this in even news? They joined a group and now are posting and criticizing what they read in it. None of which appears to be threatening or coercing.  People have opinions and chat groups are utilized to express those opinions. Just as we do in this site. 

 

 

Well, the point being that it is not just a chat group amongst a few chums who are not accountable for anything apart from their own consciences; this group included the two Members of Parliament that have been suspended, and one of them, Andrew Gwynne, was actually the Health Minister.

 

There is a responsibility and accountability that comes with being an MP, and you cannot be seen to be indulging in racist, sexist, antisemitic, and abusive comments, about other MP’s, your constituents, and the public in general; if this had been a Tory chat group, the left would have been all over it wanting heads to roll, and rightly so … goose and gander.

 

I see that Labour have now suspended 11 Labour councillors that were in the group. The group is rotten to the core, and I am not sure why you don’t think this should be news.

 

 

 

 

[Purdey]

It all seems like a normal page in ASEAN Now. Nice to see the left being as derogatory as the right.

[Red Forever]

34 minutes ago, Purdey said:

It all seems like a normal page in ASEAN Now. Nice to see the left being as derogatory as the right.

If you’d read the Times article you would have seen that the MPs posting the disparaging remarks were right wing Labour MPs taking the p*ss out of left wing Labour MPs (Corbynistas).

A weak try, no cigar.

[James105]

20 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

If you’d read the Times article you would have seen that the MPs posting the disparaging remarks were right wing Labour MPs taking the p*ss out of left wing Labour MPs (Corbynistas).

A weak try, no cigar.

 

They are left wing if they are Labour.   There are no "right wing" Labour MPs which is why the talent puddle is so small out of 400+ MPs.  Shouty activists with the political nous of a 6th form student do not make good ministers - as we have seen.  

 

If they are Corbyn types then they are far-left.   Just because you see everyone to the political right of Stalin as "right wing" does not make it so.