Musk targets Social Security with blatant misinformation

[Jingthing]

Third rail of American politics?

Musk eats third rails for breakfast.

You've heard his lies.

This article explains what's actually going on.

Also to note he's closing physical Social Security offices.

For expats needing to contact Social Security by phone, there are current reports of people being on hold for 8 hours.

That's BEFORE Musk gets his corrupt billionaire hands on staffing.

I realize many Magas love their social security too.

What's it going to take for Magas to wake up to what's going on -- an administrative coup.

An authoritarian hostile takeover.

Will Magas even change their tune when leopards eat their faces?

 

LINK to The Hill

Elon Musk's threat to Social Security benefits

 

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Elon Musk's threat to Social Security benefits

 

The only efficiency Elon Musk cares about is how efficiently he can take your money to line his own pockets. Despite President Trump’s campaign promises, Musk is coming after your earned Social Security benefits. 

President Dwight Eisenhower, Republican and war hero, could have been talking about Musk when he warned in 1954 of a handful of “Texas oil millionaires” attempting to abolish Social Security. “Their number is negligible and they are stupid,” he wrote.

Musk has made no secret of his disdain for our Social Security system. In just the last few weeks, he has used his gigantic platform to spread outrageous lies about Social Security. 

Unlike the extremely rich, stupid men to whom Eisenhower was referring, Musk is, unfortunately, not just ignorant. Trump is giving him the power to steal our earned benefits. Musk is drawing on an old playbook of claiming that the government in general, and Social Security in particular, is full of “waste, fraud, and abuse.” Then, when he steals your benefits, he will claim that he is simply cutting waste.

 

 

[Mike_Hunt]

51 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Third rail of American politics?

Musk eats third rails for breakfast.

You've heard his lies.

This article explains what's actually going on.

Also to note he's closing physical Social Security offices.

For expats needing to contact Social Security by phone, there are current reports of people being on hold for 8 hours.

That's BEFORE Musk gets his corrupt billionaire hands on staffing.

I realize many Magas love their social security too.

What's it going to take for Magas to wake up to what's going on -- an administrative coup.

An authoritarian hostile takeover.

Will Magas even change their tune when leopards eat their faces?

 

LINK to The Hill

Elon Musk's threat to Social Security benefits

 

 

What is the misinformation?

[BKKKevin]

33 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

What is the misinformation?

If you read the entire linked article you will find the examples of misinformation…

One being that Musk said that he has found 150 year olds collecting Social Security…

Red meat for his easily fooled ilk… 

[Mike_Hunt]

6 minutes ago, BKKKevin said:

If you read the entire linked article you will find the examples of misinformation…

One being that Musk said that he has found 150 year olds collecting Social Security…

Red meat for his ilk… 

1) There is no like.

and @Jingthingis too lazy to post any examples 

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

What is the misinformation?

Read the article. 

[Mike_Hunt]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Read the article. 

Post a link.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

1) There is no like.

and @Jingthingis too lazy to post any examples 

I posted the link. If you don't know, that's what the forum does with many links now. It's up to you to find the content in such cases. Do not blame me for the weird mechanics of the forum!

[Jingthing]

Here he comes.

 

Magas -- if it was George Soros who had access to all your most personal should be confidential data and he was allowed to copy it for personal profit (nobody is stopping him) and/or alter it to cut expenses without oversight to pay to increase his fortune -- would that bother you? Would you be out in the streets for that? But somehow when it comes from a right wing billionaire, it's magically OK.

 

Top Social Security official exits after clash with Musk’s DOGE over data

 

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Top Social Security official exits after clash with Musk’s DOGE over data

 

The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration left her job this weekend after a clash with billionaire Elon Musk’s U.S. DOGE Service over its attempts to access sensitive government records, three people familiar with her departure said Monday.

Michelle King, who spent several decades at the agency before being named its acting commissioner last month, left her position Sunday after the disagreement, the people said.

 

 

[TedG]

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And Social Security provides a lump sum death benefit, in part to encourage the families of beneficiaries to report their deaths promptly. When beneficiaries die, their benefits are immediately terminated. Eligible survivors, if any, start to receive the benefits their loved ones have earned for them. 

 

Yes, the 255 dollar death benefit is life changing.  LOL

[TedG]

That artical is lame. 

[save the frogs]

there are always two sides to every story.

and people will always believe the side of the story that fits with their prevailing narrative.

 

there's no concrete evidence either way whether Musk is looting the social security fund OR cleaning up the bureaucratic corruption.

 

the fact that the article claims Musk will "abolish social security" indicates to me that it's fear-mongering BS. 

 

[theshu25]

Morons Are Governing America

[Patong2021]

24 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Post a link.

 

go to the online publication called the hill  and it is   opinion/5148448-elon-musk-targeting-social-security/

Or go to your online browser and search for thehill elon musk targeting social security

 

[jerrymahoney]

LINK: https://thehill.com/opinion/5148448-elon-musk-targeting-social-security/

NB this is an OPINION article.

[Yagoda]

Translation: How dare the American people question where their money goes!

[Patong2021]

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

there are always two sides to every story.

and people will always believe the side of the story that fits with their prevailing narrative.

 

there's no concrete evidence either way whether Musk is looting the social security fund OR cleaning up the bureaucratic corruption.

 

the fact that the article claims Musk will "abolish social security" indicates to me that it's BS. 

 

 

 

The article doesn't claim Musk will abolish social security. Rather it quotes Republican President Eisenhower. You know, the military  military veteran who was an integral part of the defeat of right wing extremism.

 

President Dwight Eisenhower, Republican and war hero, could have been talking about Musk when he warned in 1954 of a handful of “Texas oil millionaires” attempting to abolish Social Security. “Their number is negligible and they are stupid,” he wrote.

 

It is no secret that there is waste at the Social Security administration. The pressure to get money into the pockets of beneficiaries coupled with  personnel shortages and an obsolete data management system facilitates mispayments and fraud. It is also no secret that the funding for social security is inadequate. The qualifying age to collect retiree / old age benefits does not reflect the  longevity of the beneficiaries today. Medicare and Medicaid benefits are relatively generous for those who qualify, and are structured such that fraud in inevitable. This is what Musk is tasked with investigating and fixing.

 

I am one of those people who believes that the qualifying age for SS benefits should be raised and that the parameters to qualify for medicare and medicaid benefits should be tightened. As such, I support the DOGE initiative. What I do not support is the methodology and the wholesale disrespect of good management practice for the sake of expediency and  publicity. On the other hand, if  the Republicans were to come right out and say that SS benefits were to be  reduced and to be  changed, particularly in respect to increasing contributions and/or raising the qualifying age, much of its support in the  trailer park and age 50-60  group would disappear. The easiest thing to do is to restrict or reduce social security benefits for non residents. Non residents are not spending their money in the USA  and should not  benefit from its generosity. Let the  beneficiaries collect only what they paid in and nothing more than that. 

[Harrisfan]

44 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I posted the link. If you don't know, that's what the forum does with many links now. It's up to you to find the content in such cases. Do not blame me for the weird mechanics of the forum!

You waste everyday reading stuff that does not matter. Go to a new restaurant. Go for a drive.

[jerrymahoney]

Trump: If it saves the country, it's not illegal

WASHINGTON, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Echoing France's Napoleon Bonaparte, U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday took to social media to signal continued resistance to limits on his executive authority in the face of multiple legal challenges.

"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law," Trump, a Republican, proclaimed on his Truth Social network. The White House did not respond to a request for more details.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-if-it-saves-country-its-not-illegal-2025-02-16/

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said:

Trump: If it saves the country, it's not illegal

WASHINGTON, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Echoing France's Napoleon Bonaparte, U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday took to social media to signal continued resistance to limits on his executive authority in the face of multiple legal challenges.

"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law," Trump, a Republican, proclaimed on his Truth Social network. The White House did not respond to a request for more details.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-if-it-saves-country-its-not-illegal-2025-02-16/

That should distract the screechers whilst the real work continues.

 

Great rule: Say something, get them screeching and frothing, move on.

 

Never interfere with opponents who are kicking their own ass.

[bamnutsak]

I want to see all the 150-year-old Americans Elon claims are receiving SocSec.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq3tK7c9Uoo

 

 

"Let that sink in."

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDxUfpQ1wQ

 

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

That should distract the screechers whilst the real work continues.

 

Great rule: Say something, get them screeching and frothing, move on.

 

Never interfere with opponents who are kicking their own ass.

At this point, it's only illegal when the Supreme Court says it is, if they so choose. 

 

But that deliberate distraction gambit is getting maybe a bit overplayed.

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

At this point, it's only illegal when the Supreme Court says it is, if they so choose. 

 

But that deliberate distraction gambit is getting maybe a bit overplayed.

Everything is a distraction to them. If the Doge kids found that 25 million went to a Ukrainian Lesbian/bisexual puppet theatre (although I myself am a firm supporter of Ukrainian bisexual girls, especially the ones in places like Bangkok and Dubai), they would scream that Putin controls Trump.

[jerrymahoney]

The first Supreme Court challenge to one of Trump's firings may be coming up soon.

Stay tuned.

[bamnutsak]

 

[Yagoda]

32 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

He does have a good sense of humour. Its is a joke at this point

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

there are always two sides to every story.

and people will always believe the side of the story that fits with their prevailing narrative.

 

there's no concrete evidence either way whether Musk is looting the social security fund OR cleaning up the bureaucratic corruption.

 

the fact that the article claims Musk will "abolish social security" indicates to me that it's fear-mongering BS. 

 

Msm is mostly lefty liars. Who reads that stuff?

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Third rail of American politics?

Musk eats third rails for breakfast.

You've heard his lies.

This article explains what's actually going on.

Also to note he's closing physical Social Security offices.

For expats needing to contact Social Security by phone, there are current reports of people being on hold for 8 hours.

That's BEFORE Musk gets his corrupt billionaire hands on staffing.

I realize many Magas love their social security too.

What's it going to take for Magas to wake up to what's going on -- an administrative coup.

An authoritarian hostile takeover.

Will Magas even change their tune when leopards eat their faces?

 

LINK to The Hill

Elon Musk's threat to Social Security benefits

 

 

The more money he has amassed, the more ignorant and completely out of control the man has become. Trump will live to regret giving him this position, as Trump's own popularity will decline the more this man continues with his madness. It will take a while for Trump supporters to realize how bad a decision this was, and how little Musk is doing to improve the lives of the average American. 

 

1984 here we come. Orwell was right. Trump was the guy he spoke of. 

[300sd]

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The more money he has amassed, the more ignorant and completely out of control the man has become. Trump will live to regret giving him this position, as Trump's own popularity will decline the more this man continues with his madness. It will take a while for Trump supporters to realize how bad a decision this was, and how little Musk is doing to improve the lives of the average American. 

 

1984 here we come. Orwell was right. Trump was the guy he spoke of. 

Yeh, he's ignorant for sure but he can catch rockets in mid air.

[flexomike]

1 hour ago, theshu25 said:

Morons Are Governing America

Not like Australia which is governed by Rhodes Scholars

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

Trump: If it saves the country, it's not illegal

WASHINGTON, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Echoing France's Napoleon Bonaparte, U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday took to social media to signal continued resistance to limits on his executive authority in the face of multiple legal challenges.

"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law," Trump, a Republican, proclaimed on his Truth Social network. The White House did not respond to a request for more details.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-if-it-saves-country-its-not-illegal-2025-02-16/

Yes, a quote mostly attributed to Napoleon. The guy who sank the french republic and crowned himself emperor.

 

It also gives freedom to 'patriots ' to do what they like to save the country.