Trump Shrugs Off Potential EU Ban on U.S. Food Imports

[RayC]

18 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Predictably, right on cue. So indebted that Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia are all in BRICS now…

 

Even more predictable was your deflection.

 

What is BRICS currently anyway? It's not a political union. It's not an economic union. It's not a trading bloc. In fact, it doesn't appear to be much more than an inappropriate acronym and an annual beano for a few developing nation leaders and their cronies.

[mrwebb8825]

I smell a Bar-B-Que coming. These EU "leaders" are in for a rude awakening very soon. The Post-WWII teat is drying up fast. Funny thing though, it took 4 yrs to free Europe from the tyranny and dictatorship of Germany and now you've grouped up under German rule.

A lot of big talk about Russia but with Biden's help,(he gave the ok for the Russian pipeline) you now buy major amounts of energy from Russia also thanks to Germany's deal.

Now that Zelenski has turned off the faucet, basically trying to hold Europe's feet to the fire demanding more, more, more, they're trying to blame the US for not stopping the war and turning the lights on. Wash-Rinse-Repeat.

Learn how to govern people. I hear President Trump has a handbook they can read.

[Gweiloman]

On 2/21/2025 at 5:21 PM, RayC said:

 

Even more predictable was your deflection.

 

What is BRICS currently anyway? It's not a political union. It's not an economic union. It's not a trading bloc. In fact, it doesn't appear to be much more than an inappropriate acronym and an annual beano for a few developing nation leaders and their cronies.

BRICS is the beginning of a new world order that promotes equality and fairness among all nations. Some of the world’s most populous nations and fastest growing economies are members and many more want to join up. It promotes multipolarity and multilateralism and is trying to do away with hegemony and has many western economies mightily concerned.

[RayC]

8 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

BRICS is the beginning of a new world order that promotes equality and fairness among all nations. Some of the world’s most populous nations and fastest growing economies are members and many more want to join up. It promotes multipolarity and multilateralism and is trying to do away with hegemony and has many western economies mightily concerned.

 

"Liberté, égalité, fraternité". Really?

 

I think that western countries may be concerned that the 'C' is more equal than the other letters and what the possible implications might be.

[Gweiloman]

On 2/23/2025 at 9:52 AM, RayC said:

 

"Liberté, égalité, fraternité". Really?

 

I think that western countries may be concerned that the 'C' is more equal than the other letters and what the possible implications might be.

Highlighted text above. Exactly. Western countries concerned. What are they actually concerned about? Other than losing their hegemonic status?

[frank83628]

[candide]

On 2/23/2025 at 9:52 AM, RayC said:

 

"Liberté, égalité, fraternité". Really?

 

I think that western countries may be concerned that the 'C' is more equal than the other letters and what the possible implications might be.

It's not only Western Countries which may be concerned about the C. The I is already fully concerned and the R should follow...🙂

 

Not to mention small fry such as the T...

[RayC]

7 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Highlighted text above. Exactly. Western countries concerned. What are they actually concerned about? Other than losing their hegemonic status?

 

Oh, I don't doubt that the 21st century will turn out to be the 'Asian century' at some point, what I dispute is your contention that, "BRICS is the beginning of a new world order that promotes equality and fairness among all nations".

 

China's behaviour in Africa and Asia suggests otherwise. Russia? Ukrainians think differently. India under Modi is a nationalist state. The other members are either much of the same or unimportant on the world stage or relative to China and India.

[Cryingdick]

More red, white and blue Fruit Loops for me!

[Gweiloman]

5 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Oh, I don't doubt that the 21st century will turn out to be the 'Asian century' at some point, what I dispute is your contention that, "BRICS is the beginning of a new world order that promotes equality and fairness among all nations".

 

China's behaviour in Africa and Asia suggests otherwise. Russia? Ukrainians think differently. India under Modi is a nationalist state. The other members are either much of the same or unimportant on the world stage or relative to China and India.

What behaviour in Africa and Asia? Surely you are not referring to the debt trap myth? 
 

BRICS IS set up to promote the values as I stated. It might not be perfect nor get it right every time but that’s the underlying objective. Why else would so many countries want to join it? I don’t see many countries rushing to join any western economic bloc.

 

You are missing a key point in all of these. A country’s political persuasion or system is irrelevant when it comes to BRICS. Communist, socialist, nationalist or democratic, it makes no difference. It is apolitical, non interference. It’s about trade, equally and fairly.

[RayC]

1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

What behaviour in Africa and Asia? Surely you are not referring to the debt trap myth? 
 

BRICS IS set up to promote the values as I stated. It might not be perfect nor get it right every time but that’s the underlying objective. Why else would so many countries want to join it? I don’t see many countries rushing to join any western economic bloc.

 

You are missing a key point in all of these. A country’s political persuasion or system is irrelevant when it comes to BRICS. Communist, socialist, nationalist or democratic, it makes no difference. It is apolitical, non interference. It’s about trade, equally and fairly.

 

The China debt trap is no myth as the experience of Sri Lanka and numerous African countries clearly demonstrates.

 

BRICS stated purpose may well be to improve the well-being of its' members (my summation) but that is meaningless in itself, and doesn't differ from the objectives of any other similar grouping e.g. the EU, ASEAN, etc. 

 

Why are so many nations joining BRICS? Why not? There are no obligations or restrictions on member states currently, so where's the harm in joining? Whether these members remain and whether there is any benefit to being a member remains to be seen.

 

You claim that BRICS is "apolitical and non-interference".  This may well be the case currently and BRICS current lack of influence as a grouping on the world stage would appear to support this proposition. However, if BRICS is to develop into an organisation to break the grip of Western hegemony as you claim, it certainly won't be able to remain that way.

[Gweiloman]

22 hours ago, RayC said:

 

The China debt trap is no myth as the experience of Sri Lanka and numerous African countries clearly demonstrates.

 

BRICS stated purpose may well be to improve the well-being of its' members (my summation) but that is meaningless in itself, and doesn't differ from the objectives of any other similar grouping e.g. the EU, ASEAN, etc. 

 

Why are so many nations joining BRICS? Why not? There are no obligations or restrictions on member states currently, so where's the harm in joining? Whether these members remain and whether there is any benefit to being a member remains to be seen.

 

You claim that BRICS is "apolitical and non-interference".  This may well be the case currently and BRICS current lack of influence as a grouping on the world stage would appear to support this proposition. However, if BRICS is to develop into an organisation to break the grip of Western hegemony as you claim, it certainly won't be able to remain that way.

The China debt trap myth has been well and truly debunked but I guess you are so brainwashed by the propaganda that you either can’t realise it or accept it.

 

For the benefit of others who might like to better informed, take a look at this video. It’s a bit longer than reading a BBC or CNN headline but that’s how it has to be if you want some facts. 
 

 

[metisdead]

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