Tips for first time tourists, especially western teenage girls

[fredwiggy]

7 minutes ago, Sierra Tango said:

I agree fredwiggy, about keeping the girls safe. All I am saying is that you and SMIAI typing a thousand words a minute attacking each other's character and beliefs is not what the original post was about.

I started out giving him good advice, as did  a few others here. This character comes back time after time, trolling myself and a few others who corrected him in the past. I know I probably shouldn't respond, but then he adds that it's okay to trust others, which it isn't until you know them. Especially in this case, them being 2 19 year old girls that want to come to Thailand on holiday. We as adults with children, especially girls, know what to do to protect them from life's evils. As a parent our worst nightmare would be one of our girls attacked by some psychopath she thought was okay because he talked nice to them, as all players and traffickers work.Best to stay safe by not letting the predators in.

[SMIAI]

9 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I read a couple of good replies.

Obviously, it was expected that the quality of the replies didn't get better over time.

I decided right from the beginning that it won't be a good idea to share this thread with the girls or their father... 

 

Either way, Don't worry. If they are good dads, they will have good girls. 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 minute ago, SMIAI said:

 

Either way, Don't worry. If they are good dads, they will have good girls. 

Really?

I think when I was 19, I was also a "good boy". But I had no idea of the crazy and dangerous world out there because I lived in a nice neighborhood with nice people and no visible crime.

I guess now young people see a lot more of what is happening on the internet. But IMHO that doesn't mean that they are prepared for all the bad people out there.

If it would be my teenage daughter, I would very much tell her not to visit a country far away from home with a language she doesn't know, a culture she doesn't know, etc. 

[Purdey]

Why ask a bunch or old men what women should or should not do? Ask women.

 

18 Essential Tips for Solo Travel in Thailand - Travels with Erica

Solo Female Travel in Thailand - Is Thailand Safe? - Adventurous Kate

Is Thailand Safe for Solo Female Travellers? (2025)

Thailand Solo: Exploring Thailand as a Solo Female Traveller - Thailand Awaits

 

P.S. if the links don't work just copy paste the titles in a browser. 

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Really?

I think when I was 19, I was also a "good boy". But I had no idea of the crazy and dangerous world out there because I lived in a nice neighborhood with nice people and no visible crime.

I guess now young people see a lot more of what is happening on the internet. But IMHO that doesn't mean that they are prepared for all the bad people out there.

If it would be my teenage daughter, I would very much tell her not to visit a country far away from home with a language she doesn't know, a culture she doesn't know, etc. 

Good girls are taken advantage of all day, every day, all over because they trust others. If it was my daughter, I would ask her to take along at least 2 others and give her the same advice I gave them since they were born, which is the same I already gave.

[Sierra Tango]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I started out giving him good advice, as did  a few others here. This character comes back time after time, trolling myself and a few others who corrected him in the past. I know I probably shouldn't respond, bu then he adds that it's okay to trust others, which it isn't until you know them. Especially in this case, them being 2 19 year old girls that want to come to Thailand on holiday. We as adults with children, especially girls, know what to do to protect them from life's evils. As a parent our worst nightmare would be one of our girls attacked by some psychopath she thought was okay because he talked nice to them, as all players and traffickers work.Best to stay safe by not letting the predators in.

Totally agree Fred.

Keep up the good work.

[SMIAI]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I started out giving him good advice, as did  a few others here. This character comes back time after time, trolling myself and a few others who corrected him in the past. I know I probably shouldn't respond, but then he adds that it's okay to trust others, which it isn't until you know them. Especially in this case, them being 2 19 year old girls that want to come to Thailand on holiday. We as adults with children, especially girls, know what to do to protect them from life's evils. As a parent our worst nightmare would be one of our girls attacked by some psychopath she thought was okay because he talked nice to them, as all players and traffickers work.Best to stay safe by not letting the predators in.

 

Just because I am expressing a different viewpoint does not have to mean that don't understand yours. 

I'm trying to reassure you that your girls are not so stupid. 

But you see it as an argument that you need to win, I think.

I understand the fear factor and not criticising that at all. But I also illustrate that not everyone is like you describe. You are not a predator, so why should your girl or son for that matter have to spend their lives viewing everyone else as such? 

It's not an I am right and you are wrong argument. It's an, I understand yours, but what about this.

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Why ask a bunch or old men what women should or should not do? Ask women.

18 Essential Tips for Solo Travel in Thailand - Travels with Erica

Solo Female Travel in Thailand - Is Thailand Safe? - Adventurous Kate

Is Thailand Safe for Solo Female Travellers? (2025)

Thailand Solo: Exploring Thailand as a Solo Female Traveller - Thailand Awaits

Mainly because old men, especially those who have children, know how men think, and the older you are, the more you know how much evil there is in this world. I'm thinking the advice in those books could be good, especially if she has experience and also took advice herself from men, who know men better than women do.

[SMIAI]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Really?

I think when I was 19, I was also a "good boy". But I had no idea of the crazy and dangerous world out there because I lived in a nice neighborhood with nice people and no visible crime.

I guess now young people see a lot more of what is happening on the internet. But IMHO that doesn't mean that they are prepared for all the bad people out there.

If it would be my teenage daughter, I would very much tell her not to visit a country far away from home with a language she doesn't know, a culture she doesn't know, etc. 

 

There are also a lot of good people out there.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

Just because I am expressing a different viewpoint does not have to mean that don't understand yours. 

I'm trying to reassure you that your girls are not so stupid. 

But you see it as an argument that you need to win, I think.

I understand the fear factor and not criticising that at all. But I also illustrate that not everyone is like you describe. You are not a predator, so why should your girl or son for that matter have to spend their lives viewing everyone else as such? 

It's not an I am right and you are wrong argument. It's an, I understand yours, but what about this.

I came here to give him advice to protect those girls, period. You came in arguing that I was wrong, thinking I said no one should trust anyone, when all I said was the girls should not trust anyone here, which is sound advice, as predators prey on women who trust them at first. I've taught all my children not to trust anyone until they really know them, and the three girls were hurt by their men in one way or another. They didn't tell me because they knew what I would do to those men if they did, until much later and they weren't around anymore. Now they have good partners. It's not about winning but about keeping girls safe in this somewhat sick world.

[SMIAI]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I came here to give him advice to protect those girls, period. You came in arguing that I was wrong, thinking I said no one should trust anyone, when all I said was the girls should not trust anyone here, which is sound advice, as predators prey on women who trust them at first. I've taught all my children not to trust anyone until they really know them, and the three girls were hurt by their men in one way or another. They didn't tell me because they knew what I would do to those men if they did, until much later and they weren't around anymore. Now they have good partners. It's not about winning but about keeping girls safe in this somewhat sick world.

 

I came in arguing, you say:

 

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2 hours ago, SMIAI said:

If you trust no one, how can you enjoy and appreciate life? @frank83628 makes a sensible point. You should take note.

 

My best experiences and theirs, are created by people who decided to trust each other. 

 

 

I didn't imagine that as argumentative.

 

You judge my actions according to your mood.

[OneMoreFarang]

16 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

There are also a lot of good people out there.

Yes

But if you meet 9 good guys and 1 bad guy then you are better prepared for that bad guy and not assume all are good guys. 

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

I came in arguing, you say:

 

 

I didn't imagine that as argumentative.

 

You judge my actions according to your mood.

Then I said...........Trust comes from time spent with people,and letting your guard down is how trouble starts. I didn't mean trust no one. I meant for 19 year old girls coming to Thailand, they shouldn't trust anyone because there are predators everywhere that look for victims who will trust them from the get go. It's plain stupid for a girl to trust people she doesn't know in another country. You can have a lot of fun if you travel in groups, never leave with anyone and watch your drinks and drinking if you're going to night clubs. Having a few people in life you can really trust is a blessing, but how many can you really trust in a lifetime? Friends are made over time and immediately, but trust takes time. ....After which you said.............

Nonsense. You are an old man who likely didn't go through that rite of passage..

Backpackers trust each other in the main and through that they make friends for life and have amazing experiences.

It doesn't sound as if you had anything like that in your life and hence, your outlook that comes from your bad imagination.

Yes, there are risks. But that's life. Be careful but don't be a stick in the mud who makes no real friends because they don't trust anyone. That's just silly.

I made hundreds of friends whilst backpacking because we decided to trust each other. That's something you old guys who didn't ever do it, won't understand.

If you could see my Contacts list, you might understand. When you trust, you find a whole other world....................What started out okay ended up as an argument.

 

[SMIAI]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

Yes

But if you meet 9 good guys and 1 bad guy then you are better prepared for that bad guy and not assume all are good guys. 

 

No one suggested that either. I just tell that your girls are not stupid. If you are not stupid, they are not stupid.

[SMIAI]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Then I said...........Trust comes from time spent with people,and letting your guard down is how trouble starts. I didn't mean trust no one. I meant for 19 year old girls coming to Thailand, they shouldn't trust anyone because there are predators everywhere that look for victims who will trust them from the get go. It's plain stupid for a girl to trust people she doesn't know in another country. You can have a lot of fun if you travel in groups, never leave with anyone and watch your drinks and drinking if you're going to night clubs. Having a few people in life you can really trust is a blessing, but how many can you really trust in a lifetime? Friends are made over time and immediately, but trust takes time. ....After which you said.............

Nonsense. You are an old man who likely didn't go through that rite of passage..

Backpackers trust each other in the main and through that they make friends for life and have amazing experiences.

It doesn't sound as if you had anything like that in your life and hence, your outlook that comes from your bad imagination.

Yes, there are risks. But that's life. Be careful but don't be a stick in the mud who makes no real friends because they don't trust anyone. That's just silly.

I made hundreds of friends whilst backpacking because we decided to trust each other. That's something you old guys who didn't ever do it, won't understand.

If you could see my Contacts list, you might understand. When you trust, you find a whole other world....................What started out okay ended up as an argument.

 

 

 

It wasn't meant as an argument. Let's just say it was a more positive outlook on life's possibilities.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, SMIAI said:

 

No one suggested that either. I just tell that your girls are not stupid. If you are not stupid, they are not stupid.

It's not his girls, but a friends. And stupid has nothing to do with a girl being a victim of a parasite. Good girls are usually trusting, thinking the best of people, and that naivete gets them hurt or killed. You can teach your girls to be aware of others, but if you don't put it into their heads that many out there are out to really hurt you, and they are the ones who act very nice when you meet, they might be the victim of a man they thought they could trust. I gave Ted Bundy as an example, and he's a good one, as he killed at least 35 women who thought he was a nice guy when they met him.

[SMIAI]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It's not his girls, but a friends. And stupid has nothing to do with a girl being a victim of a parasite. Good girls are usually trusting, thinking the best of people, and that naivete gets them hurt or killed. You can teach your girls to be aware of others, but if you don't put it into their heads that many out there are out to really hurt you, and they are the ones who act very nice when you meet, they might be the victim of a man they thought they could trust. I gave Ted Bundy as an example, and he's a good one, as he killed at least 35 women who thought he was a nice guy when they met him.

 

 

Sounds a bit scary.