Popular Post webfact Posted 15 hours ago Popular Post Posted 15 hours ago File photo courtesy: Wikipedia ANALYSIS Visa agencies throughout Southeast Asia, including Thailand, have long played a crucial role in easing the complex immigration processes for foreigners. However, changing regulations and technology are presenting new challenges to their operations. Historically, visa agencies have been pivotal for expatriates in Thailand since the 1980s, often doubling as travel and financial service providers. Over the decades, the landscape of visa options expanded significantly, leading to a surge in demand for agency services to navigate the increasingly complex immigration regulations. During the 1990s, the introduction of retirement visas and non-immigrant visas for specialised groups bolstered the necessity of visa agencies. They offered relief from lengthy queues and cumbersome paperwork through services such as address verifications and residency certificates. The early 2000s saw a flurry of new visa categories, including the Thai Elite Visa and the Long Term Residence Visa, further heightening the demand for agency expertise. Yet, this growth has not been without its problems. Recent visa types, like the Destination Thailand Visa, have added layers of complexity due to varied embassy rules and discretionary extensions, prompting discussions on the efficacy of using agents. Today, the golden era for Thai visa agencies appears to be waning. The ease of obtaining 60-day tourist visas on arrival reduces the necessity for border runs, traditionally facilitated by these agencies. Additionally, increased scrutiny and advanced technology have tightened immigration checks, curtailing opportunities for exploiting volunteer or education visas, which were once lucrative pathways. Consequently, smaller agencies are closing down as their services become less essential. Looking ahead, visa agencies may need to specialise further and offer more than just visa advice. With Thailand's shift towards an online visa system, successful agencies may diversify into offering complementary services like travel insurance and transportation. Essentially, these agencies must adapt to provide a premium, convenient service if they wish to remain relevant. Moreover, ongoing regulatory changes present additional obstacles. In February 2025, a ban on agencies opening or managing bank accounts hampered operations due to unrelated scams. Future hurdles could include the rise of electronic travel gates and the potential phase-out of traditional passports in favour of digital identification. To survive long-term, Thai visa agencies must evolve alongside technological and regulatory trends, aligning their offerings with the demands of a digital, rapidly shifting landscape, reported Pattaya Mail. -- 2025-02-22 1 3 1 6
Popular Post watchcat Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, webfact said: Looking ahead, visa agencies may need to specialise further and offer more than just visa advice. Meaning more corruption for the Immigration, with help from said agencies and corrupt corrupt banks to produce visas to people who doesn't qualify. 1 2 1 4 5
Popular Post MikeandDow Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, watchcat said: Meaning more corruption for the Immigration, with help from said agencies and corrupt corrupt banks to produce visas to people who doesn't qualify. How do people not qualify ?? granting of a visa is at the discretion of the immigration officer 4 1 1 5 3
Popular Post watchcat Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: How do people not qualify ?? By not having the "money in the Bank" 1 1 8
Popular Post MikeandDow Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago Just now, watchcat said: By not having the "money in the Bank" read my post !!!! granting of a visa is at the discretion of the immigration officer irrespective of money its called sin nam jai, 1 2 1 2 6 4
Popular Post brianburi Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, watchcat said: By not having the "money in the Bank" tut, tut, everyone knows they are just guidelines..... 2 1 2 3
Popular Post MikeandDow Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, brianburi said: tut, tut, everyone knows they are just guidelines..... 100% correct 4 1 2
Popular Post watchcat Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: 100% correct And the rest is called corruption in many countries. 1 1 1 1 3
Popular Post Andre0720 Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago 24 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: How do people not qualify ?? granting of a visa is at the discretion of the immigration officer Absolutely no discretion involved. To eliminate corruption inside Immigration Offices, the officers must act like clerks, as they insist on having all the papers to support the issuance of visas. And it depends on the IO of course. Visa agency here told me the elimination of the use of quick deposits and withdrawals to support the requirements for a visa. But Immigration Officers are for all intents and purposes just clerks, needing supporting documentation. Obviously having enough funds in Thailand is just not enough for a clerk, must show papers. Boxes and boxes of papers stacked at the IO. 1 1 2
KhunBENQ Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Andre0720 said: Absolutely no discretion involved Very true at the "desk" level. These officers have to present the documents to the next level superior for signing (where "discretion" might start). A marriage extension goes to the regional commanders office. No officer wants the application he worked on to be denied. Corruption starts at higher levels. 1 1
MikeandDow Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Andre0720 said: Absolutely no discretion involved. To eliminate corruption inside Immigration Offices, the officers must act like clerks, as they insist on having all the papers to support the issuance of visas. And it depends on the IO of course. Visa agency here told me the elimination of the use of quick deposits and withdrawals to support the requirements for a visa. But Immigration Officers are for all intents and purposes just clerks, needing supporting documentation. Obviously having enough funds in Thailand is just not enough for a clerk, must show papers. Boxes and boxes of papers stacked at the IO. you need to read the immigration guidelines
garygooner Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Andre0720 said: Visa agency here told me the elimination of the use of quick deposits and withdrawals to support the requirements for a visa. So one visa agency (in Pattaya) told you that they can't 'assist financially' for the time being or that all agencies cannot.
Popular Post MikeandDow Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago 11 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Very true at the "desk" level. These officers have to present the documents to the next level superior for signing (where "discretion" might start). A marriage extension goes to the regional commanders office. No officer wants the application he worked on to be denied. Corruption starts at higher levels. From police order 5. In the case where an alien applicant does not meet the full qualifications stipulated by the criteria herein or in other cases not specified in this Order but a competent officer equivalent to or higher than inspector is of the opinion that the alien has legitimate reason for staying in the Kingdom of Thailand, the application shall be forwarded to the Commander of the Royal Thai Police or an authorized competent officer for further consideration of the alien's application. 2 1 3
KhunBENQ Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Yes what I wanted to say. Higher level can overrule/grant exceptions. 1 1
CapatainbeefheartB4 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Well then... More difficulties for Farangs in Thailand, immigration, tax burdens, toxic air, over tourism, sullen and sour locals, drunk tourists, road rage on dangerous roads, delivery scooters riding like bats out of hell. Remind me again why it's a nice place to retire? 4
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago 5 hours ago, webfact said: In February 2025, a ban on agencies opening or managing bank accounts hampered operations due to unrelated scams. The only ban is on mule accounts used for facilitating scams, not legitimate new bank accounts opened with the assistance of an agent. 1 2
Hakuna Matata Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 5 hours ago, webfact said: Moreover, ongoing regulatory changes present additional obstacles. In February 2025, a ban on agencies opening or managing bank accounts hampered operations due to unrelated scams. Visa agents should be banned completely! A shady business based on corruption among Immigration Officials. Where are Donald Trump and Elon Musk of Thailand? 1 2 2
Liverpool Lou Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, watchcat said: Meaning more corruption for the Immigration, with help from said agencies and corrupt corrupt banks to produce visas to people who doesn't qualify. It is not the banks that are corrupt, all they are doing is opening accounts (if necessary) and facilitating transactions in those accounts. The banks' involvement stops there when the agents and IOs step in. 1
Popular Post Hakuna Matata Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago 9 minutes ago, CapatainbeefheartB4 said: Remind me again why it's a nice place to retire? Because it is dirt cheap, and prostitutes are affordable even for retirees. 1 2 2
dick turpin Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago "With Thailand's shift towards an online visa system" .........be sure to wake me up as soon as that happens. 1
Presnock Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, MikeandDow said: How do people not qualify ?? granting of a visa is at the discretion of the immigration officer hence corruption opportunities arise...recall a new chief, cancelled agents/corruption, cost that job and eventually ruinned him career wise. If folks don't have the rquired funding, and they get same from an agent/agency, that is itself fraud and the farang participating in such fraud should be penalized too IMHO. I don't especially agree with all the taxation wihtout representation on some kind of benefits, but I do believe that one can take advantage of the multitude of visa opportunities to hopefully find a perfect fit - that which I have found in cost and especially in benefits versus what I did have for many years. Just saying, I realize that some may not be able to come up with the finances but there is a reason that the govt sets a price. And reading daily from the Nomad capitalist info, countries around the world are changing their immigration requirements too, some getting much more expensive, very few if any cheaper. Thailand is still a much cheaper than most other places with more varied visas. Good luck to all in staying here or elsewhere. 1 1
CapatainbeefheartB4 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hakuna Matata said: Because it is dirt cheap, and prostitutes are affordable even for retirees. My Thai wife probably wouldn't like that, but I get it, but is it really worth it these days? 2
Popular Post Presnock Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago some people follow the rules that most do and some feel it is "beneath" them and they will do whatever it takes. One can complain but if a foreigner in a country can't meet the requirementsthen they should look elsewhere. IMHO anyway 1 2
Presnock Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Andre0720 said: Absolutely no discretion involved. To eliminate corruption inside Immigration Offices, the officers must act like clerks, as they insist on having all the papers to support the issuance of visas. And it depends on the IO of course. Visa agency here told me the elimination of the use of quick deposits and withdrawals to support the requirements for a visa. But Immigration Officers are for all intents and purposes just clerks, needing supporting documentation. Obviously having enough funds in Thailand is just not enough for a clerk, must show papers. Boxes and boxes of papers stacked at the IO. yes and some farangs brag about contacts with certain IO's that for a small fee each time, papers are stamped withou the agent involved. This is blatant corruption but the farang could meet the requirements, just didn't like having to wait with the rest of the gang. 2 1
Presnock Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 55 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Very true at the "desk" level. These officers have to present the documents to the next level superior for signing (where "discretion" might start). A marriage extension goes to the regional commanders office. No officer wants the application he worked on to be denied. Corruption starts at higher levels. IMHO starts at the bottom and works its way up! 1
jerrymahoney Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 53 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: but a competent officer equivalent to or higher than inspector is of the opinion that the alien has legitimate reason for staying in the Kingdom of Thailand, Yes. This was posted a different topic from a Police Order. (You're welcome) Now what do you think would make the 'competent officer' be of the opinion that a 'legitimate reason' as mentioned above exists -- Is it that the retiree in question supports a wife, kids, extended family, and orphans at the local wat OR Is it that he paid a hefty bribe? 2
CLW Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said: A marriage extension goes to the regional commanders office If that is so, isn't that ridiculous? I mean, don't they have other more important work to do than signing or sighting piles of documents? 1
Cabradelmar Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago IO corruption and the visa agencies that participate (with them) are THE problem when it comes to people getting a visa that don't qualify for. Nothing new. 1
Lacessit Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I have not used an agent for about ten years. i can understand they may be necessary for people who become incapacitated.
MikeandDow Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just now, CLW said: If that is so, isn't that ridiculous? I mean, don't they have other more important work to do than signing or sighting piles of documents? It goes to the regional commanders office Thai Bureaucracy
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