Is anyone concerned about DOGE targeting US Soc Sec direct deposit into Thai accounts?

[KhunLA]

11 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Trust me on this, it's not your "property" in the same way your Title II benefits are your property.  It's considered a form of welfare, based not on your work record but on the government's beneficence.  

 

In any event, they normally don't play such benefits to those overseas more than 30 days.   And they can very much do that.  However, Title II benefits are different. 

 

Bottom line: they'd have as much luck telling you couldn't travel with Nike jogging shoes as they would telling you couldn't travel with your Title I benefits.  

 

Musk may get some mileage with the "chainsaw" nonsense, but you can bet he has very smart legal advisors who know the law and know full well they'd get nowhere in court with any kind of restriction on receiving Title II benefits overseas.  

 

 

If you're living on SSI, you ain't going anywhere, and probably on other state & federal handouts.

 

[exant]

 

[jas007]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

If you're living on SSI, you ain't going anywhere, and probably on other state & federal handouts.

 

It's not. only the amount, which is usually minimal but the amount is sometimes supplemented by various states. It's the source of funding.  Title II benefits are funded from the Social Security trust fund and are generally considered a property right by the courts.  Title XVI benefits are funded by the government's general fund and are a creature of statute and regulation.  There's a distinction, and in legal terms. It matters for purposes of my point here.  

[SiSePuede419]

On 2/23/2025 at 9:43 PM, Galong said:

I'm slightly concerned with the DOGE purge targeting SS checks going into foreign accounts.

There's a new Sherrif in town and he's corrupt and he is letting that Doge gang run wild.

 

If he cuts us off there's going to be a lot of "Rooftop Voters" looking to change leadership.  Common sense tells you that.  Especially if they're dying from terminal cancer, what do they have to lose?  He better hide in his bunker.

 

See you at the OK corral. 😲

 

DOGE Claims Credit for Killing Contracts That Were Already Dead
Elon Musk’s group claimed credit for canceling procurement agreements that had been completed years earlier, the latest in a string of public errors on its site.

 

Years earlier?

The Big Lie, again.

Classic KGB style propaganda.

 

Common sense tells you that people who lie aren't trustworthy and probably corrupt...

 

C'mon MAGA.

Use a little common sense.

Wait.  Oh.

If you had any you wouldn't be so gullible.

Nevermind. 😃

 

[bamnutsak]

Social Security payments could suffer interruption soon as DOGE causes ‘system collapse,’ former commissioner warns—‘start saving now’

 

https://fortune.com/2025/03/03/social-security-payments-benefits-interruption-doge-cuts-system-collapse-retirement-disability/

 

 

Social Security has never missed a payment. DOGE actions threaten ‘interruption of benefits,’ ex-agency head says

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/01/doge-actions-may-cause-social-security-benefit-interruption-ex-agency-head.html

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Social Security payments could suffer interruption soon as DOGE causes ‘system collapse,’ former commissioner warns—‘start saving now’

 

https://fortune.com/2025/03/03/social-security-payments-benefits-interruption-doge-cuts-system-collapse-retirement-disability/

 

 

Social Security has never missed a payment. DOGE actions threaten ‘interruption of benefits,’ ex-agency head says

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/01/doge-actions-may-cause-social-security-benefit-interruption-ex-agency-head.html

 

 "former commissioner warns"

 

"ex-agency head says"

 

 

 

[jas007]

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

 "former commissioner warns"

 

"ex-agency head says"

 

 

 

With an agenda, for sure. Hence the "Ex." Head been trying to scam tp obtain more employees with scare tactics.

[bamnutsak]

19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

 "former commissioner warns"

 

"ex-agency head says"

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, he has knowledge and experience with the SSA.

 

Something the Doge-ers do not.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

With an agenda, for sure. Hence the "Ex." Head been trying to scam tp obtain more employees with scare tactics.

 

Former commissioner Martin O’Malley, currently running for DNC chair says. 

 

Ex-agency head Martin O’Malley, currently running for DNC chair says.

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

 

Yes, he has knowledge and experience with the SSA.

 

Something the Doge-ers do not.

 

 

So why did he quit? 

[SiSePuede419]

Social Security Checks Could Stop Going Out by April, Ex-Head Warns

 

The former head of the Social Security Administration warns that proposed cuts to the agency could lead the entire system to “collapse,” disrupting benefits payments to millions of Americans.

 

“Ultimately, you’re going to see the system collapse, and there will be an interruption of benefits,” Martin O’Malley, former Social Security commissioner under the Biden administration, told CNBC. “I think that will happen within the next 30 to 90 days.”

 

“People should start saving now,” he urged.

 

Fe fi fo fum!

 

I smell the blood of an African...

 

Immigrant.

 

Destroying America.

 

For fun and profit. 😀

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Social Security Checks Could Stop Going Out by April, Ex-Head Warns

 

The former head of the Social Security Administration warns that proposed cuts to the agency could lead the entire system to “collapse,” disrupting benefits payments to millions of Americans.

 

“Ultimately, you’re going to see the system collapse, and there will be an interruption of benefits,” Martin O’Malley, former Social Security commissioner under the Biden administration, told CNBC. “I think that will happen within the next 30 to 90 days.”

 

“People should start saving now,” he urged.

 

Fe fi fo fum!

 

I smell the blood of an African...

 

Immigrant.

 

Destroying America.

 

For fun and profit. 😀

Former commissioner Martin O’Malley, currently running for DNC chair says. 

 

Ex-agency head Martin O’Malley, currently running for DNC chair says.

 

 

[SiSePuede419]

22 hours ago, jas007 said:

Bottom line: they'd have as much luck telling you couldn't travel with Nike jogging shoes as they would telling you couldn't travel with your Title I benefits.  

Yeah, well. 

That depends.

Will Nike rebuke Trump's attempts at extortion protection money?

If so, banned by E.O.

If no judge is brave enough to rule against him (remember, they will have concentration camps and paramilitary door buster-kidnappers by then) SCOTUS refuses to take up the case, it's de facto American "law".

I'm not a lawyer, but I am available to play one on TV.

When people see how old I am they will think I've been practicing medicine uhh I mean law for decades, not days. 😄

 

[SiSePuede419]

29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Former commissioner Martin O’Malley, currently running for DNC chair says. 

 

Ex-agency head Martin O’Malley, currently running for DNC chair says.

Mexico will pay for the wall.

We will bring down the price of groceries and inflation on Day One.

We won't touch Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid.

 

Yeah right 😅

 

But you blindly trust the current Musk Mook in that job with no evidence whatsoever that SS will be functional in a few months?

 

Yikes.

 

Don't buy any bridges between Manhattan and Brooklyn.  It's probably a scam, pal. 

[samtam]

On 3/3/2025 at 9:05 AM, Rick45 said:

 

No where in the constitution does it even mention social security.  You have no constitutional right to social security.  Social Security was created by congress, and congress can write a law and change social security in anyway they see fit.

 

On 3/3/2025 at 9:43 AM, jas007 said:

You obviously know nothing, so believe what you want.  The right to travel is a fundamental human right recognized by the Supreme Court. It's a longstanding concept.  As is your fundamental right to your property, including your Title II social Security benefits which you earned.  If anyone tried to restrict your right to travel, including your right to travel overseas with your property, they wouldn't' get very far in the courts.  Perhaps you should stick to commenting about that which you have some clue. 

 

I think it's fair to assume that you can now take nothing for granted in the US under the administration of Musk & DOGE. 

[bamnutsak]

We'll have to take our Social Security payment in unsold soy beans.

[jas007]

1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Yeah, well. 

That depends.

Will Nike rebuke Trump's attempts at extortion protection money?

If so, banned by E.O.

If no judge is brave enough to rule against him (remember, they will have concentration camps and paramilitary door buster-kidnappers by then) SCOTUS refuses to take up the case, it's de facto American "law".

I'm not a lawyer, but I am available to play one on TV.

When people see how old I am they will think I've been practicing medicine uhh I mean law for decades, not days. 😄

 

There's no way they would spend the political capital to pursue a losing argument.  Even a friendly Supreme Court would know the case to take away Title II benefits is unconstitutional. In short, it's not going to happen.  Maybe some lower court would go along?  A possibility that would be quickly enjoined. 

 

There's a lot to worry about for some people, but traveling overseas with your property isn't one of them. 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, jas007 said:

There's no way they would spend the political capital to pursue a losing argument.  Even a friendly Supreme Court would know the case to take away Title II benefits is unconstitutional. In short, it's not going to happen.  Maybe some lower court would go along?  A possibility that would be quickly enjoined. 

 

There's a lot to worry about for some people, but traveling overseas with your property isn't one of them. 

The leftists that are not stupid know it's just fearmongering. 

[SiSePuede419]

10 minutes ago, jas007 said:

There's no way they would spend the political capital to pursue a losing argument.  Even a friendly Supreme Court would know the case to take away Title II benefits is unconstitutional

 

It's a long term goal.  They might wait until political capital no longer has any value. The end game of the Musketeers now seems to make government irrelevant so it doesn't matter who is elected President.  The real power is who manages the Algorithms AI will use to run the government and payments.  My understanding is he who controls the money flow controls everything, essentially.  What if all payments in the future are routed through X's payment system for "modernization" of outdated Treasury computer systems for uhhhh "for your protection" because we found a lot of waste, fraud and corruption (no proof given).

Whatever SCOTUS rules is Constitutional.

Corporations are people and money is speech.

What a crock if you think the 5 Republicans clowns on the court won't go along if they get paid off. 💰

 

Who's going to stop them? 😲

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, SiSePuede419 said:

 

It's a long term goal.  They might wait until political capital no longer has any value. The end game of the Musketeers now seems to make government irrelevant so it doesn't matter who is elected President.  The real power is who manages the Algorithms AI will use to run the government and payments.  My understanding is he who controls the money flow controls everything, essentially.  What if all payments in the future are routed through X's payment system for "modernization" of outdated Treasury computer systems for uhhhh "for your protection" because we found a lot of waste, fraud and corruption (no proof given).

Whatever SCOTUS rules is Constitutional.

Corporations are people and money is speech.

What a crock if you think the 5 Republicans clowns on the court won't go along if they get paid off. 💰

 

Who's going to stop them? 😲

How does your conspiracy theory benefit Musk? 

[Rick45]

25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The leftists that are not stupid know it's just fearmongering. 

 

Trump has openly said he has the right to suspend the constitution.  You may not believe he will or think he's joking, but I take it as a serious threat that he will.  

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Rick45 said:

 

Trump has openly said he has the right to suspend the constitution.  You may not believe he will or think he's joking, but I take it as a serious threat that he will.  

Did you have a quote? 

[rough diamond]

25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Did you have a quote? 

“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-call-suspend-constitution-gop-debate-chris-chris

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, rough diamond said:

“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

So, you have no quote of Trump stating openly that he has the right to suspend the constitution, I thought not. 

[Rick45]

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, you have no quote of Trump stating openly that he has the right to suspend the constitution, I thought not. 

He openly stated it via truth social

 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Rick45 said:

He openly stated it via truth social

 

You said: "Trump has openly said he has the right to suspend the constitution.". 

 

Your "evidence" does not support that claim. 

 

 

[Rick45]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Your "evidence" does not support that claim. 

As I said, you may not believe him.  You Trump apologists will always make some excuse even when confronted with concrete evidence.

[SiSePuede419]

55 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How does your conspiracy theory benefit Musk? 

How does ignoring Musk got caught lying about everything so far, your hero was born on third base and Vladimir Putin is waving him in to steal home?  🤭

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

How does ignoring Musk got caught lying about everything so far, your hero was born on third base and Vladimir Putin is waving him in to steal home?  🤭

I asked you first. 

 

How does your conspiracy theory benefit Musk? 

[TheAppletons]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

I asked you first. 

 

How does your conspiracy theory benefit Musk? 

 

  Theoretically speaking, that conspiracy theory to which you refer (something about routing payments through X) could benefit Musk if there was a charge to the government in the processing of those payments.