Anti-vaxers kill child in Texas

[Stiddle Mump]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

>> Rabies virus: Causes Rabies (severe brain inflammation).

>> Herpes simplex virus (HSV-1 & HSV-2): Causes Herpes encephalitis (brain inflammation).

>> Varicella-zoster virus (VZV): Causes Shingles & encephalitis (can damage nerves and brain).

>> Poliovirus: Causes Polio (can lead to paralysis and brainstem damage).

>> Measles virus (MV): Can cause Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (a rarebrain disorder).

>> JC virus: Causes Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy (PML) (destroys brain’s white matter, common in immunocompromised people).

>> HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus): Can cause HIV-associated neurocognitive disorder (HAND) (progressive brain damage).

Where is/are the experiment(s) that isolated any of the quoted viruses? I'll help you Richard. There is/are none.

 

As there are no such things as viruses; what are vaccines for?

 

You are simply parroting the white-coat/Big Pharma narrative. No science involved what-so-ever. Just regurgitating a theory; that does not hold up to scientific scrutiny. 

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Viruses are quite visible with a Scanning Electron Microscope. The flu and corona viruses are distinguishable, based on their morphology.

Under microsophy a 'virus' is nothing more than part of a dead cell.

 

IMO. viruses are an aid to cell replenishment. Out with the old; in with the new. 

[Stiddle Mump]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This isn't binary subject - contrary to your implications, viruses can still be spread in clean and sanitary conditions....  to suggest otherwise presents a fundamental lack of understanding of basic science and virology (at very simple levels).

This is fundamentally incorrect. A virus is a dead entity. Even if it could spread it cannot cause the recipient any harm.

 

There is no such thing as a pathogenic virus. Virology is just a money making fraud for Big Pharma; and a gravy train for the white-coats involved.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

This is fundamentally incorrect. A virus is a dead entity. Even if it could spread it cannot cause the recipient any harm.

 

There is no such thing as a pathogenic virus. Virology is just a money making fraud for Big Pharma; and a gravy train for the white-coats involved.

 

Too much wrong with all of your comments to bother replying to the idiocy... 

 

Just know that without viruses, you wouldn't even be alive.

 

 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

On 2/28/2025 at 5:31 PM, Gobbler said:

 

Mandatory where? Not in the USA.

To be enrolled in schools they are, otherwise no. There are some exceptions, but if an outbreak starts, un vaccinated children must stay out.

[Stiddle Mump]

On 2/28/2025 at 10:09 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Too much wrong with all of your comments to bother replying to the idiocy... 

 

Just know that without viruses, you wouldn't even be alive.

 

I do happen to know about viruses Richard. I've seen plenty of cell debris in labs thanks.

 

Under electron microscopy, a 'virus' is indistinguishable from common debris, including exosomes;; entities that aid the removal of toxic matter from cells. When the cell decays, it is broken down to aid expulsion. The body knows how to get rid of stuff it don't need or want. Been doing it for absolute ages.

 

You need to take a walk in the forest, without shoes on, Richard. Being at one with nature = being at one with the truth.

[richard_smith237]

29 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I do happen to know about viruses Richard. I've seen plenty of cell debris in labs thanks.

 

Under electron microscopy, a 'virus' is indistinguishable from common debris, including exosomes;; entities that aid the removal of toxic matter from cells. When the cell decays, it is broken down to aid expulsion. The body knows how to get rid of stuff it don't need or want. Been doing it for absolute ages.

 

You need to take a walk in the forest, without shoes on, Richard. Being at one with nature = being at one with the truth.

 

Your claim that viruses are indistinguishable from cell debris or exosomes under electron microscopy is incorrect - this alone suggests you my not have known precisely what you were looking at. 

 

Viruses, exosomes, and cellular debris can appear superficially similar, however, they are distinct entities with different structures, compositions, and functions.

 

 

Viruses Have Unique Morphological and Structural Features:

Under electron microscopy viruses exhibit specific symmetry, capsid structures, and sometimes lipid envelopes that differentiate them from random cellular debris.

Exosomes are extracellular vesicles that lack a capsid and genetic material for replication, unlike viruses. 

Trained virologists can distinguish viruses from cellular debris based on size, shape, surface proteins, and structural organisation.

 

Viruses Are Not Merely Debris – They Replicate:

Viruses are biological entities capable of hijacking a host cell to reproduce, something exosomes and debris cannot do.

The genetic material (RNA or DNA) inside a virus is distinct and encodes for replication inside host cells.

 

Electron Microscopy & Biochemical Techniques Confirm Viruses Exist:

Virologists use purification techniques, immunogold labelling, and molecular sequencing to isolate and confirm viral presence, separate from exosomes or debris.

SARS-CoV-2, HIV, and influenza viruses have been extensively imaged and studied using these methods, proving they are distinct from simple cellular waste.

 

The Body Does Not Simply “Expel” Viruses as Waste:

If the immune system only "expelled" viruses, viral infections would never establish or persist.

Instead, viruses actively evade immune defences, integrate into host genomes (HIV, herpesviruses), and use complex replication strategies to persist.

 

 

As for as your try “Walking Barefoot in the Forest” comment - your metaphor to 'become one with nature' is flawed - the implication that nature could replace our medical advancements is backwards thinking, though I agree we 'should' also look towards nature for answers, we have the technology to also look past nature and that saves lives.

 

 

In short: Viruses are not just cellular debris. They are distinct, identifiable biological entities with unique structural, genetic, and functional characteristics. The idea that viruses are indistinguishable from exosomes or debris is scientifically incorrect and does not align with decades of virological research.

 

[Stiddle Mump]

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Your claim that viruses are indistinguishable from cell debris or exosomes under electron microscopy is incorrect - this alone suggests you my not have known precisely what you were looking at. 

 

Viruses, exosomes, and cellular debris can appear superficially similar, however, they are distinct entities with different structures, compositions, and functions.

Viruses Have Unique Morphological and Structural Features:

Under electron microscopy viruses exhibit specific symmetry, capsid structures, and sometimes lipid envelopes that differentiate them from random cellular debris.

Exosomes are extracellular vesicles that lack a capsid and genetic material for replication, unlike viruses. 

Trained virologists can distinguish viruses from cellular debris based on size, shape, surface proteins, and structural organisation.

Viruses Are Not Merely Debris – They Replicate:

Viruses are biological entities capable of hijacking a host cell to reproduce, something exosomes and debris cannot do.

The genetic material (RNA or DNA) inside a virus is distinct and encodes for replication inside host cells.

Electron Microscopy & Biochemical Techniques Confirm Viruses Exist:

Virologists use purification techniques, immunogold labelling, and molecular sequencing to isolate and confirm viral presence, separate from exosomes or debris.

SARS-CoV-2, HIV, and influenza viruses have been extensively imaged and studied using these methods, proving they are distinct from simple cellular waste.

The Body Does Not Simply “Expel” Viruses as Waste:

If the immune system only "expelled" viruses, viral infections would never establish or persist.

Instead, viruses actively evade immune defences, integrate into host genomes (HIV, herpesviruses), and use complex replication strategies to persist.

As for as your try “Walking Barefoot in the Forest” comment - your metaphor to 'become one with nature' is flawed - the implication that nature could replace our medical advancements is backwards thinking, though I agree we 'should' also look towards nature for answers, we have the technology to also look past nature and that saves lives.

In short: Viruses are not just cellular debris. They are distinct, identifiable biological entities with unique structural, genetic, and functional characteristics. The idea that viruses are indistinguishable from exosomes or debris is scientifically incorrect and does not align with decades of virological research.

 

Too much to answer in that post Richard. I'll respond in greater detail later.

 

Suffice it to say that a pathogenic virus has never been shown to exist. Never been isolated, and virology is. IMO, a fraudulent branch of medicine.

 

Don't you see Richard, that everything is nature. There is no need to look for a mystical, invisible entity, called a virus, that is out to get us at every opportunity. Better to point the finger at man-made stuff for our sicknesses. That includes measles (OP), covid, influenza and cancer.

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[richard_smith237]

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Too much to answer in that post Richard. I'll respond in greater detail later.

 

Suffice it to say that a pathogenic virus has never been shown to exist. Never been isolated, and virology is. IMO, a fraudulent branch of medicine.

 

Don't you see Richard, that everything is nature. There is no need to look for a mystical, invisible entity, called a virus, that is out to get us at every opportunity.

 

 

These entities that don't exist or are out to get us, for the most part (approximately 99% of them) are beneficial Viruses which often pay a neutral or a positive role.

 

They Regulate the Microbiome: Bacteriophages (viruses that infect bacteria) help control harmful bacterial populations in the gut, skin, and other body parts.

 

They Boost Immunity: Some viruses train the immune system to recognise and fight harmful pathogens.

  

They Fight Harmful Microbes: Certain viruses kill antibiotic-resistant bacteria, providing a potential tool for medicine (phage therapy).

 

The enable Gene Transfer & Evolution: Some viruses integrate beneficial genetic material into human DNA, playing a role in evolution.

  

 

The study of beneficial viruses is still evolving, and they may hold keys to new medical breakthroughs.

 

 

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Better to point the finger at man-made stuff for our sicknesses. That includes measles (OP), covid, influenza and cancer.

 

You've added a binary aspect to the discussion which highlights a flawed approach.

While I have little doubt that there are contributing factors to our illnesses and diseases that are man-made, the (your) suggestion implies that without these man made factors these illnesses and diseases would not exist and that is incorrect.

 

The issue with your debates Stiddle, is that you are partially close enough to having a valid response that it draws further debate - one of the points you have mentioned is stepping close to nature to discover solutions or avoid illnesses in the first place - one such method is the study of the Virome's positive role, but you don't believe it exists.

 

In 'stepping closer to nature' researchers have harnessed the tardigrade protein Dsup to protect healthy human cells from radiation damage during cancer treatments. This approach exemplifies how science draws inspiration from nature to develop innovative medical solutions.