Zelensky - what possessed you?

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Just now, Harrisfan said:

Says the pensioner online.

Another stupid and irrelevant personal reference.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, placeholder said:

Another stupid and irrelevant personal reference.

Like all your comments insulting people.

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Just now, Harrisfan said:

Like all your comments insulting people.

Clearly you don't understand what personal is. I criticized your statement not you personally. I made no unsupported allegations about what you do for a living.

[Harrisfan]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

This is for all the right wing supporters of Israel who who back Trump when it comes to Ukraine. 

"Imagine if, when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel came to the White House this month, Trump and Vance told him that the war with Hamas had gone on too long, too many lives had been lost and it was costing America too much money, so it was time for Bibi and the Israeli people to do a deal with the Hamas aggressor.

Because Russia did to Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022, what Hamas did to Israel on Oct. 7, 2023 — a surprise invasion, murder and the ensuing sexual violence to wreak destruction on another nation and its society. Trump took Bibi’s side 110 percent against Hamas, and now he is taking Putin’s side 110 percent against Zelensky and Ukraine."

https://archive.ph/0R3B0

 

Actually the case is even worse since, unlike Russia, Hamas never had a chance of destroying Israel

 

 

 

The two wars are totally different. 

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1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Like all your comments insulting people.

And of course you have no defense for excusing Vance on the grounds that he is an  American when it comes to the issue of free speech in Europe but his citizenship excuses him from criticizing Russia where the situation is far far worse.

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2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The two wars are totally different. 

As usual an assertion unbacked by evidence or reasoning.

[Harrisfan]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As usual an assertion unbacked by evidence or reasoning.

I can't help you if you think all wars are the same. Beyond help.

[Harrisfan]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And of course you have no defense for excusing Vance on the grounds that he is an  American when it comes to the issue of free speech in Europe but his citizenship excuses him from criticizing Russia where the situation is far far worse.

Europe now? You are all over the place. 

[steven100]

3 hours ago, theblether said:

I'll give Zelensky the benefit of the doubt up until he made the "Nice ocean" comment. That was ridiculous and I'm not shocked that Trump lost his temper. 

 

"Don't you tell us how we will feel," said Trump. And it all went wrong from there. What possessed you, Zelensky. What possessed you? 

 

Watch it all but it gets spicy around half way through 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure who's the biggest idiot ... Vance or Trump ,    what an embarrassment those lunatics are ... they just showed the world their true colors,   extorsion not democracy    !!   

 

Well done Zelensky for not cowering to those two morons.   

[TedG]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

Criticize Putin or his war in Russia and you're put in jail for years.

Unlike the West.

Vance talks nonsense.

 

People in the UK and Germany are tossed in jail for mean tweets. 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/germany-online-hate-speech-prosecution-60-minutes/

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

Not sure who's the biggest idiot ... Vance or Trump ,    what an embarrassment those lunatics are ... they just showed the world their true colors,   extorsion not democracy    !!   

 

Well done Zelensky for not cowering to those two morons.   

Zelensky is the moron. Wants military help then insults the 2 guys who can provide it. Little clown supported by lefty westerners. Nuff said

[Tidal wave]

15 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

No hero. A little man whingeing about Biden and Obama. Trump and Vance put the grub in his place.

 

 

Good god have you been on the Fentanyl the last 3 years Zelensky made Trump and that other creature look like a clown show even the dumb ass reporter that asked him why he wasn't wearing a suit

 

[Tidal wave]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Zelensky is the moron. Wants military help the insults the 2 guys who can provide it. Little clown supported by lefty westerners. Nuff said

Your right for a change you have said enuff

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, Tidal wave said:

Good god have you been on the Fentanyl the last 3 years Zelensky made Trump and that other creature look like a clown show even the dumb ass reporter that asked him why he wasn't wearing a suit

 

Says a lefty who has been wrong for 9 years. You guys get everything wrong. 

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1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

I can't help you if you think all wars are the same. Beyond help.

I pointed out that you claime that the two wars are different. You offered no evidence or reasoning to explan in what significant ways they differ.

What makes this really funny is that one of the things that IQ's test for is the ability to understand analogies.  Imagine an IQ test taker being asked to choose which option is analagous to the example being offered and the answer offered by the test taker is "None of them are analagous  because they're different." 

[Harrisfan]

Just now, placeholder said:

I pointed out that you claime that the two wars are different. You offered no evidence or reasoning to explan in what significant ways they differ.

What makes this really funny is that one of the things that IQ's test for is the ability to understand analogies.  Imagine an IQ test taker being asked to choose which option is analagous to the example being offered and the answer offered by the test taker is "None of them are analagous  because they're different." 

So you want people to explain everything to you like a little boy 

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

The U.S. should totally back out and let Europe handle it Trump is trying too hard to be a hero.

 

A deal will be done. The American President wants his money, wants his rare earths (or raw earths what he called it). He won't get it off Putin. Putin is a bit thick when he started approaching the US offering mining rights (allegedly); The Americans aren't offering cash.  If a deal with the US isn't done, then Ukraine may fall, Russia gets all the rare earths (etc), probably a ruined country, but, as the American President says, they will hold all the cards. But, why wouldn't Zelensky be on the phone now to Xi, get the Chinese in, offer them a sweet mining deal  probably far more influence on the Russians, who are nervously watching a Chinese army massing near disputed borders.. They might even offer to build the rail line to ship the ore out.

 

If Ukraine falls, Taiwan has 3 years left. America, as it is, won't defend it.

 

The whole thing was engineered. If we are talking about respect then what about the journalist who made the disrespectful comment about Zelensky's attire, which lead to a cheap suit jibe from Zelensky. That journalist? Brian Glenn, working for "Royal America'sVoice ", and currently shagging Marjorie Taylor Greene, the transexual-lookinmg Congresswoman (well, looks like a bloke in a frock). Set the scene.

[DonniePeverley]

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

People in the UK and Germany are tossed in jail for mean tweets. 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/germany-online-hate-speech-prosecution-60-minutes/

 

 

Nope. No one is tossed in jail for a 'mean tweet'. 

 

Usually those who end up going to jail for these headline sentences, have a litinay of previous offenses which go into the course of any sentencing, but that's never mentioned. 

 

You are more than open to talk about immigration, pros and negatives, you can protest to your hearts content on the streets, you can critisize your government without fear of being locked up. What you cannot do is abuse someone because of their colour of their skin and use that, or their sexuality, anti semitism, etc to cause hate - that is the illegal matter. 

 

Now again, tell me where the free speech is in America (when you can literally sue someone for saying something about you). And lets see the free speech in China, Russia, India, etc  

 

 

[Tidal wave]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Says a lefty who has been wrong for 9 years. You guys get everything wrong. 

What's a lefty? I identify as a Putin finisher not a slippery orange appeaser

[steven100]

8 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Zelensky is the moron. Wants military help then insults the 2 guys who can provide it. Little clown supported by lefty westerners. Nuff said

Nuff said by you.  ignore

[DonniePeverley]

4 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

A deal will be done. The American President wants his money, wants his rare earths (or raw earths what he called it). He won't get it off Putin. Putin is a bit thick when he started approaching the US offering mining rights (allegedly); The Americans aren't offering cash.  If a deal with the US isn't done, then Ukraine may fall, Russia gets all the rare earths (etc), probably a ruined country, but, as the American President says, they will hold all the cards. But, why wouldn't Zelensky be on the phone now to Xi, get the Chinese in, offer them a sweet mining deal  probably far more influence on the Russians, who are nervously watching a Chinese army massing near disputed borders.. They might even offer to build the rail line to ship the ore out.

 

If Ukraine falls, Taiwan has 3 years left. America, as it is, won't defend it.

 

The whole thing was engineered. If we are talking about respect then what about the journalist who made the disrespectful comment about Zelensky's attire, which lead to a cheap suit jibe from Zelensky. That journalist? Brian Glenn, working for "Royal America'sVoice ", and currently shagging Marjorie Taylor Greene, the transexual-lookinmg Congresswoman (well, looks like a bloke in a frock). Set the scene.

 

 

The USA will want to be main players. If they walk away, then in the short term Europe can cobble together and arm Ukraine for a few more years. 

 

If Ukraine are buying arms from France and UK, that would put America out too. 

 

Would be the mother of all twists if China steps in to create peace. That would end American dominance. 

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Tidal wave said:

What's a lefty? I identify as a Putin finisher not a slippery orange appeaser

Another lefty wannabe

[Lacessit]

Trump demonstrated how weak he is, by having Vance along as his side-kick in a two on one.

 

Zelensky was supposed to kiss Trump's butt. Trump threw his toys out of the pram when he didn't.

 

Zelensky is a statesman, Trump and Vance never will be.

 

 

[steven100]

10 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

Good god have you been on the Fentanyl the last 3 years Zelensky made Trump and that other creature look like a clown show even the dumb ass reporter that asked him why he wasn't wearing a suit

 

agree 100% ... 

[Harrisfan]

Just now, steven100 said:

Nuff said by you.  ignore

Yes how embarrassing. Zelensky made a fool of himself. You support him. Be like walking into a Merc dealer and insulting the two bosses then wondering why you got a bad deal.

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3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

So you want people to explain everything to you like a little boy 

First you make the trivial claim but because the Ukraine war is not the Hamas war the two can't be compared. Now you're claiming that because someone asks you to explain and what significant ways those two wars are different your reply is the request for a specific answer about a specific issue is the same as asking for an explanation for everything. This is coming from someone who claims to have an IQ between 127 and 143.

[MicroB]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

Yes, a million times more than in Russia or China 

 

 

Yes, consider the diversity of political discourse in Europe. All shades of opinion exist, even opinions Americans would find diffult to stomach. But in the US, it's basically a 2 party state. Small parties barely exist.

[DonniePeverley]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Yes how embarrassing. Zelensky made a fool of himself. You support him. Be like walking into a Merc dealer and insulting the two bosses then wondering why you got a bad deal.

 

Enough now. You've cluttered this topic up with person insults and repeating the same line over and over. 

[hotsun]

14 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

Not sure who's the biggest idiot ... Vance or Trump ,    what an embarrassment those lunatics are ... they just showed the world their true colors,   extorsion not democracy    !!   

 

Well done Zelensky for not cowering to those two morons.   

Arent you that guy who worships prayut? Get out of here

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

Enough now. You've cluttered this topic up with person insults and repeating the same line over and over. 

Sorry for educating you on negotiations.