Did Trump bring shame upon the US with his Zelensky lecture?

[frank83628]

3 minutes ago, theblether said:

Trump is determined to not give a US security guarantee. Zelensky is determined that he does. 

 

This mineral rights issue is distasteful but then we learn it was the Ukranians who offered it first to Biden/Harris. 

 

Then Zelensky went campaigning for Harris. This is wild stuff, really shocking and amatuerish "diplomacy." 

IMO The minerals is why the corrupt Biden admin were funding the war, get Ukraine in so much debt the minerals are theirs as payback. There is 12t worth according to Lindsey Graham, and he was pretty clear he didn't want them going to Russia and China and was willing to fight until the last Ukrainian... which is rather brave of him considering he wasn't anywhere near the conflict. 

[worgeordie]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Why you never leave the house.

I seen the World when I was younger ,would not like to visit some of them now,

I have visited over 100 countries ,so you have some catching up to, unfortunately

for me too old to travel now , Madagascar and Easter Island will have to wait till 

my next life , 

 

regards worgeordie

 

[stevenl]

18 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

if anybody thought that Trump had some negotiating ability, or if he was capable of playing fair with a leader of another nation, that thought has to be banished from their minds by now.

Look at the posts here, you're totally wrong on both counts.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, worgeordie said:

I seen the World when I was younger ,would not like to visit some of them now,

I have visited over 100 countries ,so you have some catching up to, unfortunately

for me too old to travel now , Madagascar and Easter Island will have to wait till 

my next life , 

 

regards worgeordie

 

Ok enjoy.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Look at the posts here, you're totally wrong on both counts.

Trump won. Z ran away complaining. He now meets with 2nd rate countries.

[andersonat]

 

I've read through the above 4 pages and added a(nother) collection of hateful, unpleasant Posters to my Ignore-List.

 

The World itself is (unfortunately) *not* becoming a more Peaceful-Place, but my Asean-Now Threads certainly are.

 

 

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Trump won. Z ran away complaining. He now meets with 2nd rate countries.

So you agree with me, scary.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, stevenl said:

So you agree with me, scary.

Are you normally scared a lot? 

[LatPhrao]

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Well done Trump. Imagine little Z would have walked all over Harris/Walz. Thankful sanity prevailed in the last election.

Seeing the Ukraine ambassador's face in her hands when Z had his tantrum was priceless😅

SICK!! and sickening.

[LatPhrao]

10 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Trump won. Z ran away complaining. He now meets with 2nd rate countries.

WRONG. and sickening lies.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, LatPhrao said:

WRONG. and sickening lies.

Sickening deaths daily. Thanks Z and Biden.

[LatPhrao]

14 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Look at the posts here, you're totally wrong on both counts.

Hahaha the posts here by obvious moron Trump suckers? Please  rofl

[jts-khorat]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This would appear to represent a fundamental breakdown in relations between the US and Europe, and a realignment of the US with Russia. What's next, the embrace of China and North Korea?

 

The USA voted *already* in the UN together with North Korea and China, so: sorry to say, you should have used past tense.

[LatPhrao]

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Sickening deaths daily. Thanks Z and Biden.

Sure thing,  wacko.  Try Putin - Sickening deaths daily.  Fortunately Russian and North Koreans.

 

[Harrisfan]

Just now, LatPhrao said:

Sure thing,  wacko.  Try Putin - Sickening deaths daily.  Fortunately Russian and North Koreans.

 

Have a nice day mr friendly

[rough diamond]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

He is one step below Dan Quayle. A true phony. 

What an insult to that useless git Dan Quayle!

Both true phonies but Vance is in a league of it's own IMO.

 

PS;  Is Vance only one step below Quayle?

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, LatPhrao said:

Hahaha the posts here by obvious moron Trump suckers? Please  rofl

Classy. Please save a few insults. 4 years to go 

[Harrisfan]

Just now, rough diamond said:

What an insult to that useless git Dan Quayle!

Both true phonies but Vance is in a league of it's own IMO.

 

PS;  Is Vance only one step below Quayle?

VP. What do you do? 

[Harrisfan]

How soon the left forgets Kamala 

[bubblegum]

32 minutes ago, theblether said:

Trump is determined to not give a US security guarantee. Zelensky is determined that he does. 

 

This mineral rights issue is distasteful but then we learn it was the Ukranians who offered it first to Biden/Harris. 

 

Then Zelensky went campaigning for Harris. This is wild stuff, really shocking and amatuerish "diplomacy." 

It means that one can never trust an American. They went back on there deal no nukes for protection but you don't want to talk about that do you.

[Kinnock]

2 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

Are you deliberately oblivious of the fact that Donald had sold out to Putin last week?

Not directly relevant to Zelensky's mission .... if no hope of getting a deal as Trump had sold out, why did he meet him?  If hope of a deal, why did he not behave?

[rough diamond]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Exactly like when the laptop dropped. Fake news colluding and running wild with false narratives. Quite sickening

What has a dropped laptop got to do with accurate reports of world leader's quotes?

Are you denying the quotes were made?

[spidermike007]

14 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

Not directly relevant to Zelensky's mission .... if no hope of getting a deal as Trump had sold out, why did he meet him?  If hope of a deal, why did he not behave?

By behave are you suggesting that he should have taken a knee, and kissed the ring, not talked back and been completely compliant?

 

Just like Trump the bully insists? Behave, or else! Don't you know who I am, don't you know where you are? As my sycophantic assistant mentioned, you are in sacred territory, you are in the Oval Office, don't you get it? We are the two most powerful men in the world, behave like it!

 

 

[theblether]

38 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

It means that one can never trust an American. They went back on there deal no nukes for protection but you don't want to talk about that do you.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong - that was a Bill Clinton deal, who was it that broke it? W Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden? 

 

I'm certain it was neither Trump or Biden - so who was it? 

[HauptmannUK]

After the disaster of Biden I had high hopes for a second Trump term, and he did indeed get off to a promising start. However the way he is aligning with Putin is both shocking and frightening. A few weeks ago Putin was in a corner, weak and with an economy that was spiraling down. I saw a cartoon that had a photo of Trump with the caption 'Kremlin Employee of the Month'. Now you really have to wonder what is going on..... 

 

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Zman is a puppet, however his masters lost the election on Nov5th and its  thrown a massive spanner in the works. Trump cut off funding and now zmans in the deep <deleted>.

The EU are scurring around trying not to lose face, starmer just signed so stupid deal for 100 years, I didn't read what it was about though.

 

Would you care to repost the above tomorrow, after you have sobered up/come down from cloud 9, into understandable English.

[andersonat]

2 minutes ago, HauptmannUK said:

After the disaster of Biden I had high hopes for a second Trump term, and he did indeed get off to a promising start. However the way he is aligning with Putin is both shocking and frightening. A few weeks ago Putin was in a corner, weak and with an economy that was spiraling down. I saw a cartoon that had a photo of Trump with the caption 'Kremlin Employee of the Month'. Now you really have to wonder what is going on..... 

 

 

  --  DTrump and JDVance are Russian-Assets. 

 

 

 

[Andre0720]

Zelensky called Vance a 'Bitch', while Vance was taking over from Trump.

 

Do you think that this guy Zelensky has the diplomacy needed to discuss a truce with Putin?

 

Cannot even show respect to Trump and Vance, who were there only to try to help Zelensky, and Ukraine...

 

Of course the noodle Biden would never have enacted the same result from such a meeting. As nothing would ever evolve from the participation of Biden. Even if he would have managed to stay awake.

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

Cannot even show respect to Trump and Vance, who were there only to try to help Zelensky, and Ukraine...

Do you really believe that?

[frank83628]

 

4 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

He didn't get a penny of that $181M (Donnie always inflates the numbers BIGLY)...

 

THAT MONEY WENT TO USA DEFENSE CONTRACTORS 💵

 

Duh.

 

Is MAGA really this stupid or is the KGB not sending their best cannon fodder? 😂

But Ukraine still owes the money.