100% astigmatism.

[Nick Carter icp]

11 year old boy had an eye test at school and the results can back as 100 % astigmatism and glasses have been recommended .

Is this just a recommendation or a necessity ?

Should I let the school provide the glasses or go privately to an optician ?

School have quoted 3800 Baht for the glasses .

Will the problem resolve itself in time or are glasses a necessity ?

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

11 year old boy had an eye test at school and the results can back as 100 % astigmatism and glasses have been recommended .

Is this just a recommendation or a necessity ?

Should I let the school provide the glasses or go privately to an optician ?

School have quoted 3800 Baht for the glasses .

Will the problem resolve itself in time or are glasses a necessity ?

Ask an eye doctor? 

[BritManToo]

I have stigmatism, results in bad headaches almost every day if uncorrected.

Along with poor night vision.

 

Spherical deformation of the lens, not affected in bright sunlight (pinhole lens effect), but much worse in artificial light, reading inside and watching any screen without corrective lens makes the effect worse.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Ask an eye doctor? 

 

   Is the schools' eye doctors advice untrustworthy ?

A second opinion is required ?

[richard_smith237]

I think there is no harm whatsoever in getting a second opinion. 

 

Astigmatism is quite easy for an optician to evaluate. 

 

 

[GinBoy2]

Well probably a large percentage of AN have eye degeneration and go to an eye doc.

 

Doctors normally quote astigmatism in diopters not percentage, so I'm not sure what 100% astigmatism even means. That would be a warning bell for me

 

Astigmatism is always correctable, but just check you're not being 'over sold'

[Harrisfan]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Is the schools' eye doctors advice untrustworthy ?

A second opinion is required ?

2nd and 3rd why not? Why trust 1 guy?

[Nick Carter icp]

Went and asked in an optician today they said that a pair of glasses start at 16 000 Baht and they need to come from Bangkok .

   Wasn't even sure whether that includes the first appointment either  

[BritManToo]

50 quid from Zennioptical.

[Nick Carter icp]

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

50 quid from Zennioptical.

 

  Would they need to be specially made glasses/lenses  or is it a one size fits all in regard to the lenses ?

[Harrisfan]

19 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Went and asked in an optician today they said that a pair of glasses start at 16 000 Baht and they need to come from Bangkok .

   Wasn't even sure whether that includes the first appointment either  

Appointment should be free. Glasses price is negotiable.

[Unamerican]

19 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

they said that a pair of glasses start at 16 000 Baht

I have never, in 20 years, paid that much for good quality glasses in Thailand! 
Find a better dealer/optometrist. 

[Harrisfan]

https://www.aao.org/eye-health/astigmatism

[Harrisfan]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Would they need to be specially made glasses/lenses  or is it a one size fits all in regard to the lenses ?

Lenses are made specific for each eye. Only cheap shop lenses are not.

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Would they need to be specially made glasses/lenses  or is it a one size fits all in regard to the lenses ?

 

Astigmatism  as mentioned above is a deformation of the eyeball. Everyone has a different  type of astigmatism because eyeball structure is different for everyone.

 

Correcting the defect now will also treat learning difficulties because the kid is unable to see what the teacher is writing on a board or what other people are doing at a distance. It's great that the school identified the problem. There is no advantage in the school trying to game you. The services provided are  at a predetermined affordable rate.

 

Now that you know there is a vision problem, the child should be checked every year, because the vision will change as the kid grows and the eyeball changes shape. At some point, a proper full exam by a pediatric medical specialist is recommended to screen for  other diseases of the eye that often accompany astigmatism.

[GreasyFingers]

On 3/2/2025 at 12:42 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

11 year old boy had an eye test at school and the results can back as 100 % astigmatism and glasses have been recommended .

Is this just a recommendation or a necessity ?

Give the kid a chance. Take him to an ophthalmologist (not an optician) to find out what is really wrong and needed. To live the rest of his life with bad eyes is a serious setback.

[Freddy42OZ]

16 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

Give the kid a chance. Take him to an ophthalmologist (not an optician) to find out what is really wrong and needed. To live the rest of his life with bad eyes is a serious setback.

 

 

And don't cheap out on the glasses.

Spend as much as is required.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Freddy42OZ said:

 

 

And don't cheap out on the glasses.

Spend as much as is required.

 

   What if the shop is making all the profit ?

Selling 3800 Baht glasses for 20 000 Baht ?

[Nick Carter icp]

Went to a high street branded shop and they charge 6-7000 Baht for the glasses .

I would be relying on the shop assistants to take a reading of the eyes and send that info to the lens makers in BKK .

   The shop assistants would be using the eye machine to take the reading of the eye .

All three shop assistants were quite young, in their 20's .

And not one of them could speak a word of English .

How I am supposed to trust a person to diagnose astigmatism and give a reading  ,  hopefully they would have been trained to use the machine .

   But how I am supposed to trust them to have learnt to use the eye machine, when they spent eight years in school learning English and they cannot speak one word of English?

  As they have zero ability in English will they also have zero ability in working the eye machine ?

[chickenslegs]

On 3/3/2025 at 6:46 PM, GreasyFingers said:

Give the kid a chance. Take him to an ophthalmologist (not an optician) to find out what is really wrong and needed. To live the rest of his life with bad eyes is a serious setback.

This is the correct answer, and there are ophthalmologists who specialise in children.

 

[Harrisfan]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Went to a high street branded shop and they charge 6-7000 Baht for the glasses .

I would be relying on the shop assistants to take a reading of the eyes and send that info to the lens makers in BKK .

   The shop assistants would be using the eye machine to take the reading of the eye .

All three shop assistants were quite young, in their 20's .

And not one of them could speak a word of English .

How I am supposed to trust a person to diagnose astigmatism and give a reading  ,  hopefully they would have been trained to use the machine .

   But how I am supposed to trust them to have learnt to use the eye machine, when they spent eight years in school learning English and they cannot speak one word of English?

  As they have zero ability in English will they also have zero ability in working the eye machine ?

Does the kid speak Thai? 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Does the kid speak Thai? 

 

   Yes

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes

So stop the drama. Anyone can operate those eye machines.

 

Better, same or worse

 

All they need to ask until setting is right

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

So stop the drama. Anyone can operate those eye machines.

 

Better, same or worse

 

All they need to ask until setting is right

 

   Really, anyone can use one of these machines and take an accurate reading and instruct the lens maker in BKK exactly what kind of lens needs to be made ?

   No training needs to be given about how ro use the machine ?

How do you know that ?

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Really, anyone can use one of these machines and take an accurate reading and instruct the lens maker in BKK exactly what kind of lens needs to be made ?

   No training needs to be given about how ro use the machine ?

How do you know that ?

They have training. Just flicking lenses

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

They have training. Just flicking lenses

 

Lenses that need to be extremely accurate otherwise they will be out of focus and no point in having them .

   If they spent 8 years learning English in school and cannot speak a word of English then can they be trusted to have learnt how to use the eye testing machine ?

   Its a new shop with a new machine with new young people working there and the staff seem to be the laugh a minute type and everyone's a joke and funny

 

 

[rough diamond]

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How do you know that ?

It knows and posts about everything.

[Harrisfan]

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Lenses that need to be extremely accurate otherwise they will be out of focus and no point in having them .

   If they spent 8 years learning English in school and cannot speak a word of English then can they be trusted to have learnt how to use the eye testing machine ?

   Its a new shop with a new machine with new young people working there and the staff seem to be the laugh a minute type and everyone's a joke and funny

 

 

So you never wore glasses? I bought glasses in Thailand no issues. Its flicking lenses. The machine does the work not the person.

 

You lived in Thailand for 10 years and still can't pronounce farang. How can they trust you?

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

 I bought glasses in Thailand no issues. Its flicking lenses.

 

   Are you swearing or are there actual things called flicking lenses  ?

I need to be assured that I am getting astigmatism glasses, rather than just regular glasses and the staff couldn't even say astigmatism .

   Do I need to ask for flicking lenses when getting astigmatism lenses ?

[BritManToo]

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Really, anyone can use one of these machines and take an accurate reading and instruct the lens maker in BKK exactly what kind of lens needs to be made ?

   No training needs to be given about how ro use the machine ?

How do you know that ?

Two points,

1. This equipment is really easy to use, took me around 5 minutes to learn to use it with no instructions.

 

2. This equipment is about 10 years out of date, all done by computer now, looks into a device, watch a cartoon tractor cross the screen, and out comes a printout with your prescription on it. Just needs someone to press the start button.