Buffett vs Trump

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

You could build a 300 meter high wall all around the US and immigrants will still get it, period. If you lived in Texas ike I did, you would understand what they'll do for work, and again, it's Americans hiring them illegally, so you stop the hiring, they stop coming because there won't be any pay.

You didn't reply as to why if walls are so useless the Israelis build so many.

 

I do support putting US citizens that knowingly hire illegals in jail- a month for each illegal should be a disincentive.

 

The drug and human traffickers will still try to get in even if they can't work. A complete wall with razor wire and guards behind it would make a dent in the illegals for sure.

[Lacessit]

12 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Thanks pops, that means a lot coming from someone that has over 30K inane posts. 

I am flattered you have read all 30K posts, to be able to reach that conclusion.

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

You post drivel. I proved you wrong with recorded facts. You then claim it's not his ideas when good happens. Just another T hater.

You haven't proven anything besides your staying with that side for personal reasons. You need to really read the facts to see who, why and how instead of thinking a president can change things without help, which comes from people, his team, business and changing times, which is the main factor. Population keeps going up and jobs are fewer. This will not change. There are millions of Americans just barely getting by, but those that are doing well don't or won't see this, thinking Trump helped them somehow. Again, I don't hate Trump, but stand back and see what will happen. He has the power to make changes for the better, but narcissists always look inwards instead of thinking of others, and power is their only goal.

[Presnock]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

There's no need to get high to like life. I would never tell you to try it to see, as some should never think of trying anything that changes your thinking, even if it's positive and enlightening. Anything to excess hurts you, including food, beer or drugs.

 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

There's no need to get high to like life. I would never tell you to try it to see, as some should never think of trying anything that changes your thinking, even if it's positive and enlightening. Anything to excess hurts you, including food, beer or drugs.

actually, from HS sports, I found the "high" from running - did a couple of marathons even (body didn't like that) but ran hundreds of races of various distances until 65 and since only roads or sidewalks available outside, decided to save my knees and switched to daily 6km walks which I still do at 78+ along with other exercises and a healthy diet maintaining my weight for many years and no health problems at all during my life.  Blessed for some reason but most likely due to my lifestyle and happiness in life with a great family.  Hope you too enjoy life as much!

[Harrisfan]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am flattered you have read all 30K posts, to be able to reach that conclusion.

Law of probability. If 100 posts are all bad then the 30,000 will be too.

[fredwiggy]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's changed now. Left wing more likely means loony liberal woke nonsense eg more than 2 genders, driving a car is destroying the planet, letting people illegally enter the country and giving them loads of freebies while letting their own citizens rot etc.

They aren't letting illegals enter the country to stay without asylum. People are deported every day. You have to live there to see the truth, as one side will blame the other for things out of their control. A president isn't going to stop illegals from entering. Stopping the people who hire the illegals will, meaning rich Americans. Both sides are doing anything they can to dispute the other, instead of working together which would help everyone. There are definite things that need help, and if you have those that oppose them, and they're in power, they won't change. Both sides have good ideas, but who ever is in power will get what they want done. Millions of Americans own guns and will vote for whoever is with them, even if other things they're doing are wrong. A voter can be a very smart person and still be blind to what's actually happening.

[Harrisfan]

12 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

There's no need to get high to like life. I would never tell you to try it to see, as some should never think of trying anything that changes your thinking, even if it's positive and enlightening. Anything to excess hurts you, including food, beer or drugs.

His life. He can do what he wants. 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Law of probability. If 100 posts are all bad then the 30,000 will be too.

That would mean that since you said all these dumb , biased things, I should dismiss you if you say something right, which I wouldn't do, because if you're right, you're right.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

His life. He can do what he wants. 

You really don't see what's written do you? Just picking out what you like and dismissing the rest.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

That would mean that since you said all these dumb , biased things, I should dismiss you if you say something right, which I wouldn't do, because if you're right, you're right.

I posted links with facts. You didn't even read them. All your posts are just drivel.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

You really don't see what's written do you? Just picking out what you like and dismissing the rest.

You write drivel. He is a mature age man and so is Trump but you pretend to be smarter than all. You can't even work out that inflation hurts the poor the most. 

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, Presnock said:

 

actually, from HS sports, I found the "high" from running - did a couple of marathons even (body didn't like that) but ran hundreds of races of various distances until 65 and since only roads or sidewalks available outside, decided to save my knees and switched to daily 6km walks which I still do at 78+ along with other exercises and a healthy diet maintaining my weight for many years and no health problems at all during my life.  Blessed for some reason but most likely due to my lifestyle and happiness in life with a great family.  Hope you too enjoy life as much!

I got high, mostly weed but tried other things, as all my friends were doing them. I was into weight training and nutrition all along, so that took over and kept me away from going overboard on anything else, including drinking, drugs and junk food. Will power is necessary if you want to stay away from things that can hurt.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

You write drivel. He is a mature age man and so is Trump but you pretend to be smarter than all. You can't even work out that inflation hurts the poor the most. 

I state facts as I don't take sides. I don't trust politicians because most of what they do is not helping the average American. Where did I say inflation doesn't hurt the poor. You added that on , assuming I didn't know this. I lived in the US for the first 62 years of my life, and saw all that went on, and s till do now. Trump is surely an older man but his thinking is that of a narcissist, which hasn't evolved since childhood. Smart, although that is easily disputed, doesn't translate into right.

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

I posted links with facts. You didn't even read them. All your posts are just drivel.

I don't need to read things I already knew. You can research also but you stick with that side because you actually think they can do no wrong. In 4 years, come back and we'll see if he does what he should do, and how much is actually from his own thinking and not all the others behind him.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

I don't need to read things I already knew. You can research also but you stick with that side because you actually think they can do no wrong. In 4 years, come back and we'll see if he does what he should do, and how much is actually from his own thinking and not all the others behind him.

If you already knew inflation hurt the poor the most then you would not like Biden and Carter. Nuff said

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

They aren't letting illegals enter the country to stay without asylum. People are deported every day. You have to live there to see the truth, as one side will blame the other for things out of their control. A president isn't going to stop illegals from entering. Stopping the people who hire the illegals will, meaning rich Americans. Both sides are doing anything they can to dispute the other, instead of working together which would help everyone. There are definite things that need help, and if you have those that oppose them, and they're in power, they won't change. Both sides have good ideas, but who ever is in power will get what they want done. Millions of Americans own guns and will vote for whoever is with them, even if other things they're doing are wrong. A voter can be a very smart person and still be blind to what's actually happening.

Dems want to let illegals in ( asylum LOL ), Trump wants to keep them out- I'm with Trump on that.

Up to me I'd deport anyone that enters illegally whatever their reason, asylum seeker or refugee. Illegals should not be able to choose their "safe country", PERIOD.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

If you already knew inflation hurt the poor the most then you would not like Biden and Carter. Nuff said

I'm thinking you never finished high school, as you skim like a teenager. Go back and actually read all of what others post, before you reply, because you miss a lot. Where did I say I liked any politician? I just said some were better than others, which is true, and trump is rated very low. let's see if he can climb out of the basement. They take away 70 million's SS payments , they won't be around long.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

I'm thinking you never finished high school, as you skim like a teenager. Go back and actually read all of what others post, before you reply, because you miss a lot. Where did I say I liked any politician? I just said some were better than others, which is true, and trump is rated very low. let's see if he can climb out of the basement. They take away 70 million's SS payments , they won't be around long.

I'm thinking you dropped out of school at the bottom of the class as you don't understand basic economics.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

trump is rated very low.

By 50 lefties 

 

You really are dumb. On inflation, unemployment and the poverty index overall he is the best since 1959.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Dems want to let illegals in ( asylum LOL ), Trump wants to keep them out- I'm with Trump on that.

Up to me I'd deport anyone that enters illegally whatever their reason, asylum seeker or refugee. Illegals should not be able to choose their "safe country", PERIOD.

Trump is  racist and prejudiced towards others, and shows this by saying all immigrants should leave. Americans are all from all other countries by history. Yes, they should definitely take better care of our own citizens, but that's not happening. Instead the things being done are still the war in Ukraine and dealing with Russia. Making America great means putting most of your energy towards US citizens. The US is , again, all countries in one place. It isn't a separate race or nationality. That's why we should help other counties, but our own mainly. Letting asylum seekers who are legitimate is helping the same nationalities that are already living in the US, but they should be productive if they want to stay. Hiring illegals is, illegal, and Americans are guilty of this. You stop this, immigration would slow to a crawl.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

By 50 lefties 

 

You really are dumb. On inflation, unemployment and the poverty index overall he is the best since 1959.

Assuming I'm dumb shows just how "dumb" you really are. A poll doesn't mean all from the left side. Are you that obtuse that you don't see this? I wonder, are you looking at all the negative replies and emoticons you receive, or, just like Trump, don't care what others think and always think you're right?

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Assuming I'm dumb shows just how "dumb" you really are. A poll doesn't mean all from the left side. Are you that obtuse that you don't see this? I wonder, are you looking at all the negative replies and emoticons you receive, or, just like Trump, don't care what others think and always think you're right?

I get more likes than anybody. You get very few.

 

Lyndon B. Johnson: The poverty rate during Johnson's presidency saw a significant decrease, often attributed to his Great Society programs and the War on Poverty.3

Barack Obama: The poverty rate averaged 14.7% during Obama's first term, which is higher than the average poverty rate seen for any president since Lyndon Johnson.

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Assuming I'm dumb shows just how "dumb" you really are. A poll doesn't mean all from the left side. Are you that obtuse that you don't see this? I wonder, are you looking at all the negative replies and emoticons you receive, or, just like Trump, don't care what others think and always think you're right?

6500 posts

Days won 0

 

Nobody likes you Fred. I won 18.

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

I'm thinking you dropped out of school at the bottom of the class as you don't understand basic economics.

I'm positive you're too dense to understand you know nothing about me, nor anyone else here and only are so one sided you'll never understand what's right in your face. Anyone can look to post links to back their position, which come from other like minded thinkers. Doesn't make your side right. Again, like a few others here, you assume too much, and look like a teenager arguing with his parents.

[Harrisfan]

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Trump is  racist and prejudiced towards others, and shows this by saying all immigrants should leave. Americans are all from all other countries by history. Yes, they should definitely take better care of our own citizens, but that's not happening. Instead the things being done are still the war in Ukraine and dealing with Russia. Making America great means putting most of your energy towards US citizens. The US is , again, all countries in one place. It isn't a separate race or nationality. That's why we should help other counties, but our own mainly. Letting asylum seekers who are legitimate is helping the same nationalities that are already living in the US, but they should be productive if they want to stay. Hiring illegals is, illegal, and Americans are guilty of this. You stop this, immigration would slow to a crawl.

Biden was the racist. Trump helped blacks more than most Presidents.

 

2019, the latest data available, the African-American poverty rate was 18.8% - which is the lowest on record, beating the previous year, since the official count began in the 1960s.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

I get more likes than anybody. You get very few.

 

Lyndon B. Johnson: The poverty rate during Johnson's presidency saw a significant decrease, often attributed to his Great Society programs and the War on Poverty.3

Barack Obama: The poverty rate averaged 14.7% during Obama's first term, which is higher than the average poverty rate seen for any president since Lyndon Johnson.

I see an ego that needs filling. Comes from low self esteem, much like your mentor Trump. You're still missing the point that the presidents choices are but one factor that has any bearing on inflation,unemployment or anything else. His contribution is small compared to the rest. Look up what makes inflation change before you reply.

[Cryingdick]

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Tesla stock is facing a nightmare that it's not waking up from

Sales in a key market are trending down due to external factors.

https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/tesla-stock-is-facing-a-nightmare-that-its-not-waking-up-from

Tesla shares have dropped more than 30% over the past four weeks and have dropped from a high above $303 this week to as low as $261 during Tuesday's session

 

Maybe Musk can give the company back to the  originators.  Tesla was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors. Tesla owes its existence to the President Obama  administration and  a Democrat Congress.

In June 2009,  was given access to $465 million in loans from the United States Department of Energy. The funding, part of the $8 billion Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program, supported the engineering and production of the Model S sedan, as well as the development of commercial powertrain technology. Tesla repaid the loan in May 2013

 

This is the type of loan program Musk is attacking and calls wasteful. If it had not been for the loans there would be no  Tesla.

 

 

 

 

It isn't specific to Tesla. All American car makers are facing a huge problem if cheap Chinese cars are the new norm.  Watch the tariff tweets and people trade based upon it these F GM will go up and down. Volatility is your friend. It is the only reason to invest. It goes up it goes down. Otherwise there would be no opportunity. I traded Trump's tweets last time and will do so again.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Biden was the racist. Trump helped blacks more than most Presidents.

Now you're just posting nonsense with your inevitable hero worship of a narcissist that has a limited vocabulary. You don't realize how stupid many of your replies are. Personal opinion, by you, means nothing.

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

6500 posts

Days won 0

 

Nobody likes you Fred. I won 18.

Take a few minutes and look at how many negative emoticons you have from just here in this topic, let alone from the hundreds I've seen in others.  I'm thinking the only ones I receive are from the same few narcissists that I've proven wrong so take it personally, no matter how factual my replies are, they just have the need to argue, as a troll, because their feelings are hurt, much like the crying toddler that can't get their own way.

[Harrisfan]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I see an ego that needs filling. Comes from low self esteem, much like your mentor Trump. You're still missing the point that the presidents choices are but one factor that has any bearing on inflation,unemployment or anything else. His contribution is small compared to the rest. Look up what makes inflation change before you reply.

I have no ego, you have a large one. Trump is not my mentor. At least you got 1 thing right, Presidents are one factor but a large one.

 

I knew about inflation drivers in the 80s. You are still learning.

 

Glad I could educate you.