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Posted
12 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Putin has said repeatedly that he's not going to stop the war until there's an agreed deal, but that once a deal is reached, hostilities will cease that very minute.  

And start again ASAP after he has rebuilt his armed forces.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Why do you care?

You’ve made statement which can’t possibly be true unless the left are opposing a peace deal.

 

So where’s the evidence of the peace deal?

 

13 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Stopping war is bad. The left is mad.


 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

And start again ASAP after he has rebuilt his armed forces.

 That what they say, although as I've said, they're been there and done that with the old Soviet Union.  Keeping that together almost bankrupted them, and they won't make that mistake again.  

 

In any event, Trump realizes the war is over.  He's looking forward and wants the killing to stop.  Too many young men on both sides ate being slaughtered for no good reason.  Killing millions more won't change anything. 

Posted
36 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Putin has said repeatedly that he's not going to stop the war until there's an agreed deal, but that once a deal is reached, hostilities will cease that very minute.  Russia has had a hard time fighting this war, and it's hardly conceivable that it might pose any kind of real threat to the rest of Europe. The Soviet Union just about went bankrupt trying to hold the old regime together.  They won't repeat that mistake. Anyone suggesting otherwise is brainwashed.  And that's unfortunate.  WWIII would pretty much mean the end of the world as we know it.. 

You clearly don't watch Russian state t.v.

Putin will be fine with a PAUSE if it leaves him in an advantageous position for later actions.

Putin is on clear record as not believing Ukraine even exists as a separate nation.

So the minimum goal for him is a puppet government. 

Not neutral. A puppet of Russia.

Ideally Putin wants to swallow Ukraine entirely.

If you think Moldova and the Baltics aren't at risk, you've been hopelessly inflected with propaganda. 

Also some of the stans and even Poland and beyond if Europe lets its guard down. 

WW3 is much at risk by NOT defending Ukraine than to cave to Putin,

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Posted
34 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can you please provide details of or evidence that Trump has presented a peace plan or indeed that Zelensky has rejected any peace plan offered by Trump?

 

 

Trump is only offering a surrender plan to Ukraine.

Posted
42 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think it would be more correct to say Trump has joined what both Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell referred to as the Axis of Evil.

 

 

Well not quite so cleanly.

Trump is Putin's poodle for sure, but Xi's not so much,

Iran is a weird one. A close ally of Russia, but Trump is correctly hostile to them. Strange bedfellows.

On the other hand with moronic actions like killing USAID Trump is handing big wins to China on a platter. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, jas007 said:

This Macron character needs a reality check, I'm afraid.  And if I were living in Paris right now, I'd be questioning that choice.  

 

For Russia, France would become an existential threat.  His idea would not be tolerated.  

If he shares the Force de frappe or not. The missiles are still there.

No further threat

Posted
1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think it would be more correct to say Trump has joined what both Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell referred to as the Axis of Evil.

 

 

The phrase "axis of evil" was first used by U.S. George Bush and originally referred to Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. It was used in Bush's State of the Union address on January 29, 2002

Posted
4 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

The phrase "axis of evil" was first used by U.S. George Bush and originally referred to Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. It was used in Bush's State of the Union address on January 29, 2002

 

It was Benito Musslini who coined the term "Rome Berlin axis" before he was so shamelessly ripped off by a Bush speechwriter.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It was Benito Musslini who coined the term "Rome Berlin axis" before he was so shamelessly ripped off by a Bush speechwriter.

I think you are referring to the Tripartite Act;  The alliance was nicknamed the Rome–Berlin–Tokyo Axis initially, or the Axis for short. In September 1940 Germany, Italy, and Japan signed the Tripartite Act pledging mutual military and economic support for one another.

Posted
14 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

The phrase "axis of evil" was first used by U.S. George Bush and originally referred to Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. It was used in Bush's State of the Union address on January 29, 2002

Correct.

 

But as I stated both Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell both used the term differently.

 

I expect it will be used again in the future.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Correct.

 

But as I stated both Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell both used the term differently.

 

I expect it will be used again in the future.

And by everyone else who has an "axis" to grind!

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Posted
14 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

And by everyone else who has an "axis" to grind!

Or an axis to suck up to.

 

Forgive me, I’ a few days late.


Let me be the first to welcome you to the forum, it’s always nice to at least have the possibility of hearing new points of view.

 

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Posted
33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Or an axis to suck up to.

 

Forgive me, I’ a few days late.


Let me be the first to welcome you to the forum, it’s always nice to at least have the possibility of hearing new points of view.

 

Thanks.

I did NOT post the sad.

Posted
2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Was Kosovo a member of NATO at the time?

 

Was Albania a member of NATO at the time?

 

No. So even without any NATO member being attacked NATO saw fit to bomb Serbia.

 

The UN mandated NATO to engage in the former Yugoslavia.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But as I stated both Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell both used the term differently.

I am actually being serious as in how did they use the quote differently?

Posted
45 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

The UN mandated NATO to engage in the former Yugoslavia.

Well, given who the NATO members are that's a massive shock, isn't it?

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