Why is All the Hate Towards Russia and Not China?

[frank83628]

Because the media haven't switched to the 'China bad' mantra yet, I expect it to come straight after Ukriane is over.

remember how it switched from COVID to Ukraine over night 

The sheep here will switch when theyre told too.

[Jonathan Swift]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Have you noticed the trend in the US and EU where the parties on the Left scream Russia Russia Russia at every turn, and ignore China?

 

Lets see...

 

Russia: an authoritarian dictatorship of no particular ideology other than Great Russia Nationalism and Orthodoxy. A third world pestiferous country with a worthless military, primitive economy and nukes. Highly aggressive and revanchist. Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. 

 

Russia: A communist dictatorship, heavily industrialized, giant military with nukes, highly aggressive and revanchist and expansionist to boot, racist and authoritarian political and philosophical foundations.. Blatantly flouts international law, threatens war, murders and imprisons its own people (as Socialists do). Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Their main enemy is the USA

 

So why always the hate towards Russia and not China? Sympathetic to Socialism? Hatred of the USA? Brainwashing?

He didn't ask to hear your politics, the question was much simpler. Your view is yours and yours alone, an opinion, a political view, which is hardly the same as a factual answer. You're free to litigate your viewpoint, but it serves no useful purpose except to confuse the questioner. He didn't come here to listen to the squabbles of "the left" vs "the right" or anything in between. 

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

He didn't ask to hear your politics, the question was much simpler. Your view is yours and yours alone, an opinion, a political view, which is hardly the same as a factual answer. You're free to litigate your viewpoint, but it serves no useful purpose except to confuse the questioner. He didn't come here to listen to the squabbles of "the left" vs "the right" or anything in between. 

In other words, the question is unanswerable to you so you'll just talk about me? Got it

[spidermike007]

Perhaps because Putin is a serial killing despot? He seems to love executing women and children. As far as Russia goes what can one say about Putin and the Kremlin? Corrupt beyond that the wildest reaches of any imagination, morally bankrupt serial killers, state sanctioned sports doping programs, a parasite nation, to a staggering degree. 

 

However, China does not wear their power lightly. With China it is a one way street. Ever tried to sell an item and send it to China? Nearly impossible. All imports are govt. controlled. It is all about exporting anything and everything they can and very selective importing. A highly controlled market with thousands of companies getting govt. subsidies. They don't believe in a level playing field, nor playing fair. 

 

Closer ties to China are not a good idea. They are up to no good. Their intentions are heinous. Their desire for power and dominnance knows no bounds. They cannot and should not be trusted. They are NOT a reliable ally, and are not a good or trustworthy world power. They are only one step above Russia, on the trust scale. Worldwide slavery, and organ harvesting? No thanks Xi.

 

However, it does scare me to think of which nation may take the place of the US, when the time comes. As we know right now the US is not a dependable ally, with the Goomba leading the country, but this shall pass too. 

 

It definitely will not be Russia (they are relatively insignificant economically), and I sure hope it will not be China, as they are not exactly a beacon of morality, and have been substantially more of a bully on the world stage, and do not wear their power lightly. Also, in my opinion, the government there is significantly more morally bankrupt than the US. And that is saying alot. 

 

But the Russian and the Chinese people for the most part are fairly rude, but the Russians are significantly nastier and less pleasant to be around. 

 

[Jonathan Swift]

What you see here by now are mostly people arguing and squabbling over their political leanings back and forth, without directly addressing the heart of your question. I'm betting there are a lot of Brits and a few others who have never lived in either the US or Russia. From my experience Brits love to corner anyone for an argument. Fundamentally Russia has a history in recent times of waging war against its neighbors and seizing territory, as such posing a direct threat to nearby countries and therefore threatening NATO and its signature countries, one being the US. Russia has fought proxy wars all over the middle east long before the US - Iraq/Afghanistan and long after. China has posed no such actual threat, it hasn't participated in all out war since Korea, and to a smaller extent Vietnam. 

[frank83628]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Perhaps because Putin is a serial killing despot? He seems to love executing women and children. As far as Russia goes what can one say about Putin and the Kremlin? Corrupt beyond that the wildest reaches of any imagination, morally bankrupt serial killers, state sanctioned sports doping programs, a parasite nation, to a staggering degree. 

 

However, China does not wear their power lightly. With China it is a one way street. Ever tried to sell an item and send it to China? Nearly impossible. All imports are govt. controlled. It is all about exporting anything and everything they can and very selective importing. A highly controlled market with thousands of companies getting govt. subsidies. They don't believe in a level playing field, nor playing fair. 

 

Closer ties to China are not a good idea. They are up to no good. Their intentions are heinous. Their desire for power and dominnance knows no bounds. They cannot and should not be trusted. They are NOT a reliable ally, and are not a good or trustworthy world power. They are only one step above Russia, on the trust scale. Worldwide slavery, and organ harvesting? No thanks Xi.

 

However, it does scare me to think of which nation may take the place of the US, when the time comes. As we know right now the US is not a dependable ally, with the Goomba leading the country, but this shall pass too. 

 

It definitely will not be Russia (they are relatively insignificant economically), and I sure hope it will not be China, as they are not exactly a beacon of morality, and have been substantially more of a bully on the world stage, and do not wear their power lightly. Also, in my opinion, the government there is significantly more morally bankrupt than the US. And that is saying alot. 

 

But the Russian and the Chinese people for the most part are fairly rude, but the Russians are significantly nastier and less pleasant to be around. 

 

Who are these women & children?

[Yolando]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

So why always the hate towards Russia

 

Perhaps because Russia has repeatedly invaded its neighboring countries?

 

Or maybe because Russia has repeatedly threaten the west with nuclear annihilation?

[Patong2021]

Russia has threatening European countries ever since  Putin came to power.

Russia has attacked its neighbors and been directly implicated in regional wars.

Russia has intentionally supported  brutal dictators in Africa.'

Russia  kept Asad in power and participated in the deaths of 600,000 Syrians and the deplacement of millions of Syrians.

Russia  has supported and armed North Korea, and Iran

Russia has been shown to have actively interfered in  western nation elections.

Russia has sabotaged internet and telecomminications  sea cables.

Russia sends nucklear armed bombers into the air  near the borders of Canada and the USA.

 

China has not been doing the above.

China  has its faults, but they are not threatening to attack western nations. 

China provides many of the consumer products   used by the free world.

China is a leader in sustainable solar energy. Russia is one of the world's worst polluters with its leaking oil pipelines.

China sends foreign students while Russia sends covert assassins.

[spidermike007]

8 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Who are these women & children?

Ukrainians, Georgians, and Chechens. Tens of thousands of them. Forgotten already, huh? 

[candide]

46 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Because the media haven't switched to the 'China bad' mantra yet, I expect it to come straight after Ukriane is over.

remember how it switched from COVID to Ukraine over night 

The sheep here will switch when theyre told too.

China bad is your cult leader's mantra (the American one, not the Russian one)! 

[SunnyinBangrak]

The left kicked off the demonization of Russia after they needed an excuse for Hillary's electoral loss. They went so far down the rabbithole for so many years they can't come back to reality. So invested were they in their beloved and spicy Steele dossier they would choose nuclear war rather than taking the L. History will look back on this democrat cultlike behavior and will not judge kindly.

[transam]

51 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Because the media haven't switched to the 'China bad' mantra yet, I expect it to come straight after Ukriane is over.

remember how it switched from COVID to Ukraine over night 

The sheep here will switch when theyre told too.

No, I think it was your leaders' invasion of Ukraine that caught the media eye...........🤣

[candide]

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

The left kicked off the demonization of Russia after they needed an excuse for Hillary's electoral loss. They went so far down the rabbithole for so many years they can't come back to reality. So invested were they in their beloved and spicy Steele dossier they would choose nuclear war rather than taking the L. History will look back on this democrat cultlike behavior and will not judge kindly.

A well written piece of Russian/MAGA propaganda! 

[transam]

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The left kicked off the demonization of Russia after they needed an excuse for Hillary's electoral loss. They went so far down the rabbithole for so many years they can't come back to reality. So invested were they in their beloved and spicy Steele dossier they would choose nuclear war rather than taking the L. History will look back on this democrat cultlike behavior and will not judge kindly.

That maybe after Trump has been ostracised........

[Yagoda]

29 minutes ago, Yolando said:

 

Perhaps because Russia has repeatedly invaded its neighboring countries?

 

Or maybe because Russia has repeatedly threaten the west with nuclear annihilation?

Bluster

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Bluster

The only "bluster" is Trump.........Who hasn't a clue what he is doing........🤔

[JAG]

1 hour ago, uncletiger said:

Taiwan is a globalist stronghold with all kinds of illegal bioweapons labs

Ahah, haven't heard the "illegal bioweapons labs" baloney for a while - did they ship them from Ukraine to Taiwan then?

[frank83628]

23 minutes ago, transam said:

No, I think it was your leaders' invasion of Ukraine that caught the media eye...........🤣

Funny how that same media ignored the  previous 8yrs. Then again, so did all the headline readers like yourelf.

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Funny how that same media ignored the  previous 8yrs. Then again, so did all the headline readers like yourelf.

 

I haven't got an elf...........

[Walker88]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Cultural Revolution time.

 

Socialism requires enemies at all time.

I think you're confused by MAGAism or fascism, but I repeat myself.

 

Let's see....main stream non-Fox media, Kash's "Enemy List", migrant caravans made solely of rapists and murderers and criminals let out of prison, Haitians eating pets. Last time it was Moslems. Now it's Canadians and Danes and Panamanians and Gazans.

 

Last week the bloated clown suggested to the attorneys of the DoJ that CNN, MSNBC and other non-Fox media who criticize him "must be illegal, and you should look into that".

 

Is the clown so weak he needs lese majeste laws?

 

MAGAism requires enemies all the time. He needs to point out enemies for MAGA bootlickers to go after, lke judges who follow the rule of law, families of judges, former Admin 1.0 officials who had it publicly announced by the clown that their security has been removed....in other words, you can now try to go after John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, Gen Mattis and Kelly and Milley, etc.

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I think you're confused by MAGAism or fascism, but I repeat myself.

 

Let's see....main stream non-Fox media, Kash's "Enemy List", migrant caravans made solely of rapists and murderers and criminals let out of prison, Haitians eating pets. Last time it was Moslems. Now it's Canadians and Danes and Panamanians and Gazans.

 

Last week the bloated clown suggested to the attorneys of the DoJ that CNN, MSNBC and other non-Fox media who criticize him "must be illegal, and you should look into that".

 

Is the clown so weak he needs lese majeste laws?

 

MAGAism requires enemies all the time. He needs to point out enemies for MAGA bootlickers to go after, lke judges who follow the rule of law, families of judges, former Admin 1.0 officials who had it publicly announced by the clown that their security has been removed....in other words, you can now try to go after John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, Gen Mattis and Kelly and Milley, etc.

Your screeching has already been disregarded by the American people. Who do you find to be a greater danger to human freedom? A tinpot dictatorship or a well armed Socialist adversary whose philosophy as embodied in Chinese Communism, Socialism, Bolshevism, or National Socialism has resulted in the death of millions?

[Walker88]

51 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The left kicked off the demonization of Russia after they needed an excuse for Hillary's electoral loss. They went so far down the rabbithole for so many years they can't come back to reality. So invested were they in their beloved and spicy Steele dossier they would choose nuclear war rather than taking the L. History will look back on this democrat cultlike behavior and will not judge kindly.

Are you unwell?

 

Seems so.

 

I guess you're in favor of Russkis bombing hospitals and schools and slaughtering kids, all because---lie his mutant offspring in the WH---the Universe gave Putin a small Johnson.

 

By the way, few people paid attention to the Steele Dossier. There was plenty of intel long before that came to light that the campaign was knowingly cooperating with Russia. The cult likes to forget that the Republican-chaired SSCI issued their report noting Manafort and Kilimnik, Stone and Wiki and a Romanian asset of the GRU. That wasn't the MSM or Dems, it was Republicans.

 

History will look at the MAGA cult the same way it looks at McCarthyism: temporary insanity.

[henryford1958]

We still hate China. Wait till they invade Taiwan.

[Rimmer]

A personal attack has been removed

[tomazbodner]

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Have you noticed the trend in the US and EU where the parties on the Left scream Russia Russia Russia at every turn, and ignore China?

 

Lets see...

 

Russia: an authoritarian dictatorship of no particular ideology other than Great Russia Nationalism and Orthodoxy. A third world pestiferous country with a worthless military, primitive economy and nukes. Highly aggressive and revanchist. Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. 

 

Russia: A communist dictatorship, heavily industrialized, giant military with nukes, highly aggressive and revanchist and expansionist to boot, racist and authoritarian political and philosophical foundations.. Blatantly flouts international law, threatens war, murders and imprisons its own people (as Socialists do). Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Their main enemy is the USA

 

So why always the hate towards Russia and not China? Sympathetic to Socialism? Hatred of the USA? Brainwashing?

Maybe worth an edit above?

[Myran]

Have you been living under a rock?

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, transam said:

The only "bluster" is Trump.........Who hasn't a clue what he is doing........🤔

Really? So the border isnt closed. So illegal aliens arent self deporting? So inflation isnt down? So Hostages havent been released? So Billions of dollars of waste havent been uncovered.?

 

You should be so successful.

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, candide said:

A well written piece of Russian/MAGA propaganda! 

Are you saying the Steele dossier was not a Hillary Clinton dirty trick?

 

You thus believe in what all thinking people now call: The Russia Hoax.

 

Hoax.

[Brian J]

Russia is little more than an aptly named authoritarian one party kleptocracy. Despite perestroika/glasnost Russia has more people in abject poverty than it did before its revolution a century or so ago.

Their biggest export is gangsters.

I see no reason for any Western European nation to fear them. They have struggled to lay a glove on a much smaller next door nature that had a minuscule army, no weapons, no airforce and no navy. Even the likes of Luxembourg would pulverise them.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Swift said:

What you see here by now are mostly people arguing and squabbling over their political leanings back and forth, without directly addressing the heart of your question. I'm betting there are a lot of Brits and a few others who have never lived in either the US or Russia. From my experience Brits love to corner anyone for an argument. Fundamentally Russia has a history in recent times of waging war against its neighbors and seizing territory, as such posing a direct threat to nearby countries and therefore threatening NATO and its signature countries, one being the US. Russia has fought proxy wars all over the middle east long before the US - Iraq/Afghanistan and long after. China has posed no such actual threat, it hasn't participated in all out war since Korea, and to a smaller extent Vietnam. 

It's particularly sad and bordering on pathetic when somebody makes up an issue in order to defend their political leader, and show fealty to him. 

 

I do have some friends that will come right out and say the man is a butthead, he's an idiot, and he's an absolute clown, but I like his policies. Those are the Republicans I admire. 

 

I'm a Centrist Dem, but I had no problem criticizing Biden, Obama, and Clinton when they were president, if I didn't agree with their policies.

 

Very, very few Republicans seem to have that capacity these days. Such obedience to an ideology. Yikes.