E-visa not used yet, renewing passport before using it

[MART]

Hello!

 

I've read multiple topics on FB and here about what happens when one renews their passport while holding an e-visa which is still valid. My situation is somewhat different though, I think. I hold a DTV visa valid until 2030. I've never used it though (I have never got an entry stamp on the basis of this DTV visa) because I had to change my plans. I plan to use it later this year. Since I will be applying for a new passport for my son soon, I am thinking about applying for a new one for me too.

 

Am I likely to have any troubles entering Thailand with a new passport and my DTV e-visa, since I will not have used this visa yet? Or will I be fine just showing the 2 passports (the old one which number is on the e-visa and the new one with another number)?

 

Thanks for your help!

[DrJack54]

15 minutes ago, MART said:

Am I likely to have any troubles entering Thailand with a new passport and my DTV e-visa, since I will not have used this visa yet? Or will I be fine just showing the 2 passports (the old one which number is on the e-visa and the new one with another number)?

What you outline should be fine however is there an urgency in obtaining a new pp?

 

True that immigration will see that current pp has pp # that matches the e-Visa print out.

 

Given a choice, I would enter on existing pp and obtain new pp in Thailand and then at some point attend immigration for stamp transfer. The reference to pp replaced (number etc) will be entered into new pp. 

 

 

[MART]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

What you outline should be fine however is there an urgency in obtaining a new pp?

 

True that immigration will see that current pp has pp # that matches the e-Visa print out.

 

Given a choice, I would enter on existing pp and obtain new pp in Thailand and then at some point attend immigration for stamp transfer. The reference to pp replaced (number etc) will be entered into new pp. 

 

 

Thank you. 

 

Well yeah, there are reasons why I would prefer to renew it now, although I do understand that it is not ideal.

 

Let's imagine I enter the Kingdom a first time with my current passport (which number matches the one on my e-visa). If I then exit Thailand and renew my passport outside of Thailand, will I be fine entering Thailand with both passports (one of which is cancelled but which number matches the one on my e-visa)?

[DrJack54]

10 minutes ago, MART said:

Let's imagine I enter the Kingdom a first time with my current passport (which number matches the one on my e-visa). If I then exit Thailand and renew my passport outside of Thailand, will I be fine entering Thailand with both passports (one of which is cancelled but which number matches the one on my e-visa)?

Plan you outline will be fine.

 

What I don't get is the desire to obtain the new pp outside of Thailand.

You mention idea of entering Thailand on existing pp then at some point exit and during that time obtain a new pp.

What's wrong with obtaining it in Thailand and doing stamp transfer at immigration. 

[MART]

22 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Plan you outline will be fine.

 

What I don't get is the desire to obtain the new pp outside of Thailand.

You mention idea of entering Thailand on existing pp then at some point exit and during that time obtain a new pp.

What's wrong with obtaining it in Thailand and doing stamp transfer at immigration. 

Thank you.
Because I would have to register as living in Thailand at the embassy of my home country, and I have reasons not to do so. It's probably a country-specific issue, as other embassies do not require passport applicants to be registered as living in Thailand.

[Scouse123]

18 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

What you outline should be fine however is there an urgency in obtaining a new pp?

 

True that immigration will see that current pp has pp # that matches the e-Visa print out.

 

Given a choice, I would enter on existing pp and obtain new pp in Thailand and then at some point attend immigration for stamp transfer. The reference to pp replaced (number etc) will be entered into new pp. 

 

 

 

 

There isn't a stamp transfer per se.

 

You show the piece of A4 which contains your photo and passport number, and they stamp you in for 180 days.

 

There isn't a 5-year visa stamp entered into your passport.

 

He needs to carry two passports for a while and check with immigration if they will move it over in the computer, or else he must continue carrying the new and the expired passport for which the DTV visa applies.

 

Ideally, there should be a 5-year visa inserted into the passport as a stamp which can be transferred.

[DrJack54]

31 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

There isn't a stamp transfer per se.

I used "stamp transfer" as descriptive term.

When he attends immigration for "stamp transfer" the first thing that is entered in new pp is a stamp that the officer fills in.

The replaced passport # , type of visa etc.

After that is done i can't see requirement to carry both passports.

 

Just the new one and print out of e-Visa should be sufficient.

 

Perhaps someone that has obtained new pp and has a DTV can post first hand experience. 

 

OP, you may find this thread useful.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1335168-what-happens-when-i-renew-my-passport-before-my-dtv-expires/

[Caldera]

7 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

There isn't a stamp transfer per se.

 

There is, if you follow that suggestion and obtain a new passport while in Thailand. In that scenario, (at least) the entry stamp is always transferred from the old passport to the new passport.

[Scouse123]

3 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

There is, if you follow that suggestion and obtain a new passport while in Thailand. In that scenario, (at least) the entry stamp is always transferred from the old passport to the new passport.

 

Yes.

 

It would work on your passport but we are talking about the DTV VISA side of things

 

Because as yet there isn't a 5 year DTV VISA stamp

[Caldera]

32 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Yes.

 

It would work on your passport but we are talking about the DTV VISA side of things

 

Because as yet there isn't a 5 year DTV VISA stamp

 

There will never be a 5-year DTV visa stamp in any shape or form, as it's an eVisa.

 

What an entry stamp transfer as suggested by @DrJack54 accomplishes is that (1) the old and the new passport are linked in immigration's system and (2) a stamp referencing your old passport number is put into your new passport. That should make using the eVisa (which has the old passport number printed on it) with the new passport hassle-free.

 

I think that's preferable to the OP's plan, although it should work as well. 

[MART]

Transferring the entry stamp from the old to the new passport is done at an immigration office inside Thailand, right?

[BrandonJT]

6 minutes ago, MART said:

Transferring the entry stamp from the old to the new passport is done at an immigration office inside Thailand, right?

Yes

[Scouse123]

8 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

There will never be a 5-year DTV visa stamp in any shape or form, as it's an eVisa.

 

What an entry stamp transfer as suggested by @DrJack54 accomplishes is that (1) the old and the new passport are linked in immigration's system and (2) a stamp referencing your old passport number is put into your new passport. That should make using the eVisa (which has the old passport number printed on it) with the new passport hassle-free.

 

I think that's preferable to the OP's plan, although it should work as well. 

 

Well,

 

it sounds like a good idea.

 

Let's hope immigration have a common sense approach, and it's as simple as you say above.

[Scouse123]

7 hours ago, MART said:

Transferring the entry stamp from the old to the new passport is done at an immigration office inside Thailand, right?

 

Yes,

 

It's a very simple process.

[Scouse123]

12 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

There is, if you follow that suggestion and obtain a new passport while in Thailand. In that scenario, (at least) the entry stamp is always transferred from the old passport to the new passport.

 

I carry two UK passports.

 

They transferred my retirement extensions from one passport to the new one, very easily at Kalasin immigration.

 

I will have the same issue in a couple or three years, when my passport for the 5-year visa will expire, and I want to move passports same as the OP.

 

It all makes perfect sense what both you and Dr Jack are saying, what I mean is I hope the Immigration see it the same way.

 

We know they are a law unto themselves, as even different offices interpret the rules and regulations as they wish.

[Scouse123]

20 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I used "stamp transfer" as descriptive term.

When he attends immigration for "stamp transfer" the first thing that is entered in new pp is a stamp that the officer fills in.

The replaced passport # , type of visa etc.

After that is done i can't see requirement to carry both passports.

 

Just the new one and print out of e-Visa should be sufficient.

 

Perhaps someone that has obtained new pp and has a DTV can post first hand experience. 

 

OP, you may find this thread useful.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1335168-what-happens-when-i-renew-my-passport-before-my-dtv-expires/

 

I fully understand your point now.

 

Thanks.