Putin agrees to 30-day halt on energy facility strikes, Ukraine signals support

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

You missed 'A minority of' in front of that sentence. 

 

With an electoral roll of 186.5 million in September 2024, 77.3 million US voters backed Trump, which equals 41% of all voters.

The majority of Americans did not support Trump in 2024 and, most likely, even more have turned away from him since then. 

Therefore your statement that the 'American people' trust Trump is patently untrue. Context shows that a significant majority did not put their trust in him. 

Yeah sure OK.

 

He won.

You lost.

 

Carry on crying.

[jas007]

29 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

 

Russian propaganda is inherently absurd and nonsensical, built on defying even the most basic principles of logic. As a result, anyone who parrots it is quickly and easily exposed. Trump saying that Ukraine has started this war and Zelenskiy is a dictator - the best example of the Russian propaganda repeated.

Absurd and non-sensical? Except when it's true and is verifiably true.  The Russia Nuclear War Code, for example, which is law. Anyone can look it up. And yet you are now conveniently ignoring that fact you earlier labeled "Russian Propaganda."  LOL.

 

As for Ukraine "starting: the war?  Well it's a proxy war and was instigated by the USA years ago. You can thank the CIA for that. All done at the direction of the Neocons at the State Department.  I'll spare everyone the history lesson. 

[RuamRudy]

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah sure OK.

 

He won.

You lost.

 

Carry on crying.

 

I am not a US voter so I neither won nor lost. But you were wholly wrong in your statement - as the numbers show, the majority of people in the US did not support Trump.

 

I am sorry that you have to live with the fact that most Americans do not support him, but it gives the rest of the world hope that the majority of Americans have common sense and morality. 

[Hellfire]

25 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Absurd and non-sensical? Except when it's true and is verifiably true.  The Russia Nuclear War Code, for example, which is law. Anyone can look it up. And yet you are now conveniently ignoring that fact you earlier labeled "Russian Propaganda."  LOL.

 

As for Ukraine "starting: the war?  Well it's a proxy war and was instigated by the USA years ago. You can thank the CIA for that. All done at the direction of the Neocons at the State Department.  I'll spare everyone the history lesson. 

  Yeah, sure. I’d love for Putin’s bots to make this crystal clear—so even the most oblivious MAGA supporters can grasp it. Putin isn’t just fighting Ukraine; he’s fighting the U.S. and the entire West. According to the Kremlin, Ukraine is nothing more than a Western proxy. So when these fools talk about “making peace” with Putin by surrendering Ukraine, they need to understand that his ultimate goal isn’t just a few Ukrainian territories—it’s the defeat of the West, bringing it to its knees. The roots of this ideology is deeply Soviet, the regime's which was once named "the empire of Evil" by one truly great US president of the past. Putin is a Soviet revanchist—the worst kind of them all: a KGB officer.

   Still, I doubt they (the MAGAs) will ever understand anything until it is too late!

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I am not a US voter so I neither won nor lost. But you were wholly wrong in your statement - as the numbers show, the majority of people in the US did not support Trump.

 

I am sorry that you have to live with the fact that most Americans do not support him, but it gives the rest of the world hope that the majority of Americans have common sense and morality. 

We dont,  hes on a roll and the Democrats are a laughing stock. Hitch your stars to the losers then. Im sure wherever you are from needs your attention more than we do.

[sharot724]

how to tell you are loosing w/o saying it

[jas007]

14 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

  Yeah, sure. I’d love for Putin’s bots to make this crystal clear—so even the most oblivious MAGA supporters can grasp it. Putin isn’t just fighting Ukraine; he’s fighting the U.S. and the entire West. According to the Kremlin, Ukraine is nothing more than a Western proxy. So when these fools talk about “making peace” with Putin by surrendering Ukraine, they need to understand that his ultimate goal isn’t just a few Ukrainian territories—it’s the defeat of the West, bringing it to its knees. The roots of this ideology is deeply Soviet.  Putin is a Soviet revanchist—the worst kind of them all: a KGB officer.

   Still, I doubt they (the MAGAs) will ever understand anything until it is too late!

You think too much of Russia and Putin, I think.  Putin is a former Soviet KGB officer, for sure.  But, as you must surely  recall, the old Soviet Union couldn't even hold together its empire, back in the day.  It went bankrupt trying. Not only will they not make that mistake again, they don't need any of what the West has.  They have the largest land mass on earth, they have all the natural resources you could possibly imagine, and at this point, they simply want to be left alone.  The GDP of Russia is less than the GDP of Italy.  They are not a threat to the West, and they don't want to be.  

[Hellfire]

Just now, jas007 said:

You think too much of Russia and Putin, I think.  Putin is a former Soviet KGB officer, for sure.  But, as you must surely  recall, the old Soviet Union couldn't even hold together its empire, back in the day.  It went bankrupt trying. Not only will they not make that mistake again, they don't need any of what the West has.  They have the largest land mass on earth, they have all the natural resources you could possibly imagine, and at this point, they simply want to be left alone.  The GDP of Russia is less than the GDP of Italy.  They are not a threat to the West, and they don't want to be.  

   Another absurd piece of Russian propaganda: “They simply want to be left alone”—while invading their neighbors.

   There’s no doubt that Russia has always had immense potential. But its failure to build a free society has repeatedly delivered it into the hands of dictators, preventing it from ever realizing that potential. And now, history repeats itself once again—this time, with a former low-level KGB officer playing his power games at the expense of millions of Russian people.

[RuamRudy]

17 minutes ago, jas007 said:

at this point, they simply want to be left alone

If that was true, they would not have invaded a sovereign country and committed uncountable war crimes. 

 

18 minutes ago, jas007 said:

They are not a threat to the West, and they don't want to be.  

Then why are they invading western countries, carrying out acts of political sabotage, interfering in the democratic processes and committing murder in the west?

 

 

[theshu25]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Assuming you are talking about Trump? The American people do.

Well i wouldn't be talking about Fred Flinstone would i.

[Yagoda]

18 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Well i wouldn't be talking about Fred Flinstone would i.

Well if you wrote his name in Cyrillic some folks here would

[rough diamond]

2 hours ago, theshu25 said:

Well i wouldn't be talking about Fred Flinstone would i.

You will be talking the stone age if Putin and Trump get this all wrong.

[Gweiloman]

10 hours ago, transam said:

I think you are confused or making assumptions, but I expect that from a Western Putin supporter.........😬

With some posters, I have to turn down my intelligence meter to try and understand what they post. With you, even at my minimum setting, your content free micro posts makes no sense. You should just go back to tuning ICE dinosaurs…

[SiSePuede419]

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Assuming you are talking about Trump? The American people do.

Not against Russia. 😂

 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

trust a compulsive lying grifting conman

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope and nope.

 

14 out of 14 nope. ✅

 

The MAJORITY of Americans speaking out were not agreeing with Trump about anything related to Ukraine-Russia war.

 

100% nope. 😭

 

46% of Americans think US support for Ukraine is insufficient

 

53% of Americans say the U.S. should back Ukraine until all its territories are restored, even if it takes time

 

79% of respondents fear Russia will violate the agreement

 

70% believe any deal could favor Moscow

 

64% of Americans would support an increase in military aid to Ukraine if Russa breaks the truce

 

49% of registered voters think Trump sympathizes with Russia in its war against Ukraine, while only 2% support Russia themselves and 61% back Ukraine

 

30% consider Russia “friendly but not an ally” of the US

 

61% considered countries of western Europe, like the UK, France, Italy and Germany to be allies of the US

 

76% said they thought Trump was making major changes to the America’s relationships with other countries.

 

31% said the relationships were better

 

42% said worse

 

26% said it was too soon to say

 

 

 

[SiSePuede419]

41 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

You should just go back to tuning ICE dinosaurs…

Like MAGA droolers who make under the median wage in America can afford a luxury EV car.

 

As if. 😄

 

You sound out of touch with the 'Murican working man who doesn't have tiny delicate hands like the average KGB-adjacent Keyboard Elitist. 🛎️

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Not against Russia. 😂

 

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope and nope.

 

14 out of 14 nope. ✅

 

The MAJORITY of Americans speaking out were not agreeing with Trump about anything related to Ukraine-Russia war.

 

100% nope. 😭

 

46% of Americans think US support for Ukraine is insufficient

 

53% of Americans say the U.S. should back Ukraine until all its territories are restored, even if it takes time

 

79% of respondents fear Russia will violate the agreement

 

70% believe any deal could favor Moscow

 

64% of Americans would support an increase in military aid to Ukraine if Russa breaks the truce

 

49% of registered voters think Trump sympathizes with Russia in its war against Ukraine, while only 2% support Russia themselves and 61% back Ukraine

 

30% consider Russia “friendly but not an ally” of the US

 

61% considered countries of western Europe, like the UK, France, Italy and Germany to be allies of the US

 

76% said they thought Trump was making major changes to the America’s relationships with other countries.

 

31% said the relationships were better

 

42% said worse

 

26% said it was too soon to say

 

 

 

And of course no source

[SiSePuede419]

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

And of course no source

The internet seems to be working just fine at your location.

Your search engine is capable of producing the same thing

But you want to stay ignorant 😘

 

 

Don't worry, they won't deport you to El Salvador unless you have a tattoo.

Everyone that has tattoos are gangbangers, right?

😀😃😄😁😆😅😂🤣😭

[jas007]

18 hours ago, Hellfire said:

   Another absurd piece of Russian propaganda: “They simply want to be left alone”—while invading their neighbors.

   There’s no doubt that Russia has always had immense potential. But its failure to build a free society has repeatedly delivered it into the hands of dictators, preventing it from ever realizing that potential. And now, history repeats itself once again—this time, with a former low-level KGB officer playing his power games at the expense of millions of Russian people.

 You ignore one simple but important fact: the war has already been won.  Russia won, at least to the extent that  no armies could now be assembled that could take back on the ground those territories that are now Russia.  The only question is whether that fact is recognized now, so that the killing may stop, or, would you feel better if another million young kids are fed into the meat grinder because you don't like Putin? In the end, we'll be right back here still trying to end it all.  

[Gweiloman]

10 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Like MAGA droolers who make under the median wage in America can afford a luxury EV car.

 

As if. 😄

 

You sound out of touch with the 'Murican working man who doesn't have tiny delicate hands like the average KGB-adjacent Keyboard Elitist. 🛎️

No idea what you’re talking about.

 

One thing for sure, I’ve nothing in common with the ‘Murican working man

[SiSePuede419]

47 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

No idea what you’re talking about.

 

One thing for sure, I’ve nothing in common with the ‘Murican working man

Thanks for confirming how out of touch you are with the majority 60% of Americans who are B-R-O-K-E.

Called it. 👍

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

But you want to stay ignorant 😘

No I try to follow the rules. Sources not plagiarism.

[transam]

13 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

With some posters, I have to turn down my intelligence meter to try and understand what they post. With you, even at my minimum setting, your content free micro posts makes no sense. You should just go back to tuning ICE dinosaurs…

I thought your intelligence meter was out of order, is it a Russian brand........😜...........😂

[Hellfire]

4 hours ago, jas007 said:

 You ignore one simple but important fact: the war has already been won.  Russia won, at least to the extent that  no armies could now be assembled that could take back on the ground those territories that are now Russia.  The only question is whether that fact is recognized now, so that the killing may stop, or, would you feel better if another million young kids are fed into the meat grinder because you don't like Putin? In the end, we'll be right back here still trying to end it all.  

This is quite a stupid post. War is never won until it is actually won. Just 3 years ago putin’s soldiers were raping and killing in Kiev’s suburbs. Where are they now? So keep repeating these Kremlin’s mantras as long as you wish. It will change nothing.

[SiSePuede419]

2 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

War is never won until it is actually won.

Tell the people who smashed cops on the head with fire extinguishers and carried two Loser flags (Confederate and Nazi) up and down the hall trespassing on government property, a felony according to a law President Donald Trump signed (IOKIYAR).

Trump wants to rename our military bases to Loser Traitor generals...

When is he going to rename Pearl Harbor to the Japanese name?

Depends on how much Japanese pays him.

Maybe he can rename Washington DC to a more German sounding name, like die Sturmfront or something. 😅

 

[jas007]

11 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

This is quite a stupid post. War is never won until it is actually won. Just 3 years ago putin’s soldiers were raping and killing in Kiev’s suburbs. Where are they now? So keep repeating these Kremlin’s mantras as long as you wish. It will change nothing.

Calling me "stupid" won't win you an argument.  Whether you like it for not, the "surrender"" negotiations are currently under way.  In any event, if you seriously believe that armies could somehow be assembled to retake territory that's now part of Russia, perhaps you should talk to someone who knows something about fighting a ground war.  Armies would have to be assembled over a period of months.  They don't materialize out of thin air. And, once assembled, those armies need to be supplied.  

 

And yet Russia will not sit back and watch for months as the armies and equipment are put into place.  Nor will they tolerate the presence of supply lines.  Remember where all this is taking place. Right in Russia's back yard.  The USA and its equipment is far away, and EU has none, for all practical purposes.  They have a lot of hot air and they are delusional.  But you can't fight a war with hot air and delusions.  

 

Could NATO or the EU send in some paratroopers or whatever?  A small force?  Sure, but they would be on a death mission. How big is the front? Thousands of miles? 

[Bannoi]

He decided to attack Heathrow power infrastructure instead

[Hellfire]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

Calling me "stupid" won't win you an argument.  Whether you like it for not, the "surrender"" negotiations are currently under way.  In any event, if you seriously believe that armies could somehow be assembled to retake territory that's now part of Russia, perhaps you should talk to someone who knows something about fighting a ground war.  Armies would have to be assembled over a period of months.  They don't materialize out of thin air. And, once assembled, those armies need to be supplied.  

 

And yet Russia will not sit back and watch for months as the armies and equipment are put into place.  Nor will they tolerate the presence of supply lines.  Remember where all this is taking place. Right in Russia's back yard.  The USA and its equipment is far away, and EU has none, for all practical purposes.  They have a lot of hot air and they are delusional.  But you can't fight a war with hot air and delusions.  

 

Could NATO or the EU send in some paratroopers or whatever?  A small force?  Sure, but they would be on a death mission. How big is the front? Thousands of miles? 

   

  When the Germans reached Moscow in December 1941, the chances of the Red Army stopping them—let alone eventually winning the war—seemed slim. The Soviet Union was on the brink of collapse, suffering massive losses in manpower, equipment, and territory. Yet, against all odds, they managed to turn the tide.

  By comparison, Ukraine’s situation today, while difficult, is nowhere near as catastrophic as what the Soviets faced in late 1941. With sustained and well-targeted support from the West, the battlefield dynamics could shift significantly—and it may not take as long as some think.

[jas007]

40 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

   

  When the Germans reached Moscow in December 1941, the chances of the Red Army stopping them—let alone eventually winning the war—seemed slim. The Soviet Union was on the brink of collapse, suffering massive losses in manpower, equipment, and territory. Yet, against all odds, they managed to turn the tide.

  By comparison, Ukraine’s situation today, while difficult, is nowhere near as catastrophic as what the Soviets faced in late 1941. With sustained and well-targeted support from the West, the battlefield dynamics could shift significantly—and it may not take as long as some think.

Anything is possible, I'll grant you that.  But the likelihood?  Anyway, one thing I know for sure: a global thermonuclear war would probably not be a good idea.  The world as we know it would be over.  Is that your mindset? Ukraine wins or we end life on earth as we know it?  There wouldn't be much left, I'm afraid.  

[Hellfire]

14 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Anything is possible, I'll grant you that.  But the likelihood?  Anyway, one thing I know for sure: a global thermonuclear war would probably not be a good idea.  The world as we know it would be over.  Is that your mindset? Ukraine wins or we end life on earth as we know it?  There wouldn't be much left, I'm afraid.  

So, do you believe that your Tsar’s decision to use nuclear weapons would be justified if Ukraine were to win on the battlefield?

[jas007]

26 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

So, do you believe that your Tsar’s decision to use nuclear weapons would be justified if Ukraine were to win on the battlefield?

What I think doesn't matter. What matters is what Russia thinks. I don't have anything to do with any of that, but I do think that they may well be serious. Gambling with the future of the human race isn't such a good idea, in my opinion.

 

If you take a course on International Relations, you'll probably study game theory.  It's important in this context.  And the way you play the nuclear game?  You don't play.  That's the only winning strategy.