The Results of the Court Assault on Trump will Be......

[Yagoda]

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/19/trump-plot-supreme-court-immigration

 

This article lays out, in simplistic terms, the legal strategies involved in the battle over Executive power. If you ignore the made up quotes from supposed Trump officials, and the silly superficial yammering about the "Trump Court" being right wing, or whatever, you can see that finally, after 200 plus years, we are going to see hopefully a resolution on Executive power as it relates to a modern executive of a global superpower.

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From your source:

"You're going to have Hamas supporters who have been naturalized within the last 10 years, and they are eligible to lose their status as citizens and get deported," Davis said. "It's worth it."

 

The ACLU and the leftist press heads

will explode!

 

 

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2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/19/trump-plot-supreme-court-immigration

 

This article lays out, in simplistic terms, the legal strategies involved in the battle over Executive power. If you ignore the made up quotes from supposed Trump officials, and the silly superficial yammering about the "Trump Court" being right wing, or whatever, you can see that finally, after 200 plus years, we are going to see hopefully a resolution on Executive power as it relates to a modern executive of a global superpower.

Funny. right wingers used to drown on about "original intent". Not they were being honest but still...

Now apparently right wingers when he was one separation of powers doctrine beheaded for the dumpster...

It almost doesn't matter since the supreme Court has already made it possible for any president to be a dictator.

[Yagoda]

16 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Funny. right wingers used to drown on about "original intent". Not they were being honest but still...

Tell us how the original intent doctrine differs from the position of broad executive power as set forth in Article II

 

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Now apparently right wingers when he was one separation of powers doctrine beheaded for the dumpster...

Tell us what that means.

 

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It almost doesn't matter since the supreme Court has already made it possible for any president to be a dictator.

Tell us what case that was. Tell us what the holding of the case was.

 

So.... confused and sad emojis and some flames will follow. As to any understanding of the issues I raised. Crickets.

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Tell us how the original intent doctrine differs from the position of broad executive power as set forth in Article II

 

Tell us what that means.

 

Tell us what case that was. Tell us what the holding of the case was.

 

So.... confused and sad emojis and some flames will follow. As to any understanding of the issues I raised. Crickets.

Core of the Constitution the doctors separation of powers. the president one opportunity to stop legislation from being enacted. That opportunity is afforded by the veto. After a bill is signed into law, it is the duty of the executive branch is carry out whatever ithat law entails. 

By withholding funding that has been authorized by Congress and signed into law or by destroying agencies necessary to implement the provisions of that law, the executive branch is givingg itself  virtually unlimited veto power.

 

As for the supreme Court, it has declared much to the shock of most legal scholars on the left and right that any criminal act committed by a president using presidential powers is accept from criminal prosecution. What is to  stop a president from ordering criminal acts to be committed and then pardoning the agents carried out that criminal act? According to the supreme Court. he would immune from criminal prosecution even after he has left office. What's to stop such a person from using his political office to authorize violence against an opponent's political campaign?

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Core of the Constitution the doctors separation of powers. the president one opportunity to stop legislation from being enacted. That opportunity is afforded by the veto. After a bill is signed into law, it is the duty of the executive branch is carry out whatever ithat law entails. 

By withholding funding that has been authorized by Congress and signed into law or by destroying agencies necessary to implement the provisions of that law, the executive branch is givingg itself  virtually unlimited veto power.

 

As for the supreme Court, it has declared much to the shock of most legal scholars on the left and right that any criminal act committed by a president using presidential powers is accept from criminal prosecution. What is to  stop a president from ordering criminal acts to be committed and then pardoning the agents carried out that criminal act? According to the supreme Court. he would immune from criminal prosecution even after he has left office. What's to stop such a person from using his political office to authorize violence against an opponent's political campaign?

I can guarantee, ladies and gentlemen, that he has never read ANY Supreme Court case.

 

Tell us the name of the case you are referring to in the Second paragraph and the specific holding of the case. Also, do you think Barak Obama should be charged with murder then?

 

As to your First point, which is more on topic, how do you reconcile your garbled something you set forth with the text of Article II? What is the Presidents Power over Executive agencies? Can a President refuse to enforce a law passed by Congress? Are you claiming that Congress is more powerful than the President when it comes to executive power?

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7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I can guarantee, ladies and gentlemen, that he has never read ANY Supreme Court case.

 

Tell us the name of the case you are referring to in the Second paragraph and the specific holding of the case. Also, do you think Barak Obama should be charged with murder then?

 

As to your First point, which is more on topic, how do you reconcile your garbled something you set forth with the text of Article II? What is the Presidents Power over Executive agencies? Can a President refuse to enforce a law passed by Congress? Are you claiming that Congress is more powerful than the President when it comes to executive power?

If anyone is guilty of garbled thinking it's you. According to your way of thinking apparently the President has the absolute right not to carry out the laws if he so chooses. Where do you come up with this stuff? You believe that there are no checks on the President's power? If that were the case, why even bother to grant the President the veto power? 

 

"Congress could rescind appropriations by its normal procedures at any time, but here we are looking at a special category of rescission legislation that is governed by Title X of the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 in response to a governing crisis which President Richard Nixon provoked when he refused to spend monies the Legislature had appropriated for various programs and initiatives  The President said the monies were not needed, but Congress objected, reminding him that his job was to faithfully execute the laws it passed, and the appropriation was one of those laws... Congress limited the President’s ability to impound funds, but Members nonetheless recognized the President’s role in the policy-making process and enacted a set of procedures whereby the legislature and Administration could collaborate to revise spending policy after each year’s appropriations bills were enacted, as long as Congress had the final say.

https://www.congressionalinstitute.org/2018/05/17/rescissions-rescissions-how-congress-can-use-the-rescission-process-responsibly/

 

As for the Supreme Court exempting the President from being subject to criminal charges for criminal acts he authorized using his presidential powers...where have you been? How opaque is the information bubble you apparently inhabit. This was a huge news story

"Held: Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf