Speaking the truth is now a risky business in Britain

[Sir Dude]

Orwell was right with his famous 1984 book, just 40-45 years too early in the UK's case.

[gargamon]

5 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

Soon to be the norm in America too...

 

It's there now, and even worse. Prosecute someone that Trump likes and your law firm will be blacklisted. Defend someone he hates and the same.

[swerve]

6 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

This is Orwellian.

 

Coming to Canada soon, guaranteed.

In Canada already.  You can't say what you think in Canada without expecting problems.  The place is too woke.

[thaipo7]

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Step One to the full effect of Socialism.

 

In a few years, they will solve the speech problem with bullets.

If we did not have Trump in power, we would be on the way with this under the Marxist Democrat rule of Harris and Comrades.

[ujayujay]

12 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Step One to the full effect of Socialism.

 

In a few years, they will solve the speech problem with bullets.

Nope, that's more the right wing level you prefer

[still kicking]

12 hours ago, BritManToo said:

It's never been a good idea to speak against government policy in the UK.

Especially while using your employers internet, or your real name.

I remember some of my pals being called into HR for such offences at the BBC back in the 1980s.

 

Keep your opinions and your work separate.

Don't use social media during working hours.

Don't even chat about anything personal with fellow workers.

Try speaking the truth in Thailand 

[DonniePeverley]

I'm reading free speech in America is not around anymore with recent arrests. 

 

Try and speak freely in Thailand and see what happens. 

 

Go to Dubai and try there too.

 

What about China ?

 

Go protest whilst your out there and see what happens.

 

In the UK we can protest say what we want, but just no hate speech - ie racism. Which is fair. 

[still kicking]

6 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

I'm reading free speech in America is not around anymore with recent arrests. 

 

Try and speak freely in Thailand and see what happens. 

 

Go to Dubai and try there too.

 

What about China ?

 

Go protest whilst your out there and see what happens.

 

In the UK we can protest say what we want, but just no hate speech - ie racism. Which is fair. 

You forgot North Korea 

[hotsun]

26 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

I'm reading free speech in America is not around anymore with recent arrests. 

 

Try and speak freely in Thailand and see what happens. 

 

Go to Dubai and try there too.

 

What about China ?

 

Go protest whilst your out there and see what happens.

 

In the UK we can protest say what we want, but just no hate speech - ie racism. Which is fair. 

Americans are allowed to criticize their government, not support terrorists.

 

british are allowed to support terrorists, but not criticize their government.

 

ill let people figure out for themselves which is rational

[DonniePeverley]

27 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Americans are allowed to criticize their government, not support terrorists.

 

british are allowed to support terrorists, but not criticize their government.

 

ill let people figure out for themselves which is rational

 

 

 

[DonniePeverley]

29 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Americans are allowed to criticize their government, not support terrorists.

 

british are allowed to support terrorists, but not criticize their government.

 

ill let people figure out for themselves which is rational

 

I literally a saw hundreds of thousands of farmers protesting against the government in central London a few weeks ago. 

 

Now would they be able to protest in Dubai, Singapore, China?

 

Where is this bastion of open free speech you want available to you ?

 

 

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

I literally a saw hundreds of thousands of farmers protesting against the government in central London a few weeks ago. 

 

Now would they be able to protest in Dubai, Singapore, China?

 

Where is this bastion of open free speech you want available to you ?

 

 

Im not from the UK i just see articles on here about how native british are being locked up for social media posts criticizing the government and muslims.

 

in the US people can say whatever they want as long as its not pro hamas anti semitic stuff that the uk allows. Americans will never be ok with anti semitism no matter how much the left kicks and screams

[Mike_Hunt]

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She was reprimanded by her hospital in Surrey for referring to a male paedophile as “Mr.”

 

The horror, the horror. 

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

In the UK we can protest say what we want, but just no hate speech - ie racism. Which is fair. 

 

That is also free speech. 

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

That is also free speech. 

Its also not true. Would he be comfortable calling keir starmer a plonker on X for thousands of followers? Probably not. Millions of people in america call trump a nazi every day online

[DonniePeverley]

30 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

That is also free speech. 

 

Every country has bans on what speech they ban to keep society harmonious ... 

 

American the country that has free speech written into their constitution bans the following free speech -  incitement to imminent lawless action, true threats, obscenity, defamation... and many more sexual topics. 

 

That's not free speech is it then? 

 

They are deporting students for supporting Palestine. That's not free speech.

 

Thailand has many laws too on what they will not allow you to say. 

 

Essentially what i am finding online is that there is element who clamour this argument for free speech in the UK and America, but what is translates to is, is that they want to be racist and they don't like it how they can't. Most of the free speech laws were not made by Starmer or the current government but years ago. They are designed to protect minorities from racist idiots who can target innocent people for no fault but of the colour of their skin.

 

 

 

You go to Germany and you can't say certain things around the Hollocaust. There are strong laws on anti semitism (rightly). Is that a ban on free speech ?

 

Why not just let live and love one another? Why you so hateful ?

 

[hotsun]

3 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

Every country has bans on what speech they ban to keep society harmonious ... 

 

American the country that has free speech written into their constitution bans the following free speech -  incitement to imminent lawless action, true threats, obscenity, defamation... and many more sexual topics. 

 

That's not free speech is it then? 

 

They are deporting students for supporting Palestine. That's not free speech.

 

Thailand has many laws too on what they will not allow you to say. 

 

Essentially what i am finding online is that there is element who clamour this argument for free speech in the UK and America, but what is translates to is, is that they want to be racist and they don't like it how they can't. Most of the free speech laws were not made by Starmer or the current government but years ago. They are designed to protect minorities from racist idiots who can target innocent people for no fault but of the colour of their skin.

 

 

 

You go to Germany and you can't say certain things around the Hollocaust. There are strong laws on anti semitism (rightly). Is that a ban on free speech ?

 

Why not just let live and love one another? Why you so hateful ?

 

Newsflash, muslims hate us. They celebrate terrorism. Your government is protecting them and creating british refugees who are fleeing to pattaya