The Left’s Obsession with Nazi Labels Reveals Their Political Desperation

[Colki]

To me it was not the gesture by Musk of  doing the 'nazi' salute . It was the fervour in how it was done and repeated but also the look on the face of Musk.

 

 

[Purdey]

The USA is still one of the few countries in the world to have a Nazi Party today.

https://www.americannaziparty.com/

They are banned in more developed countries. Calling someone a Nazi in the USA when you actually do have a Nazi Party is hardly an egregious mistake, but it looks bad for non-Nazis.

In fact, leading up to the second world war, the Nazi movement was active in supporting Hitler. It doesn't mean Trump is a Nazi, though his family is of German descent.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, you have to have the intelligence to read between the lines and understand what I was saying. Obviously I did not suggest that Trump was a socialist in reality, but rather that, just like socialism in the 1930s, Trump is now the force for change, and just like fascism and Nazism in the 1930s reacted to the socialist challenge, so now the far leftists are reacting to Trump's challenge.

 

Obviously for you to suggest that fascism and nazism were not response movements reacting to socialism merely betrays your ignorance of history, you have to read your Ernst Nolte.

 

"Using the methods of phenomenology, Nolte subjected German Nazism, Italian Fascism, and the French Action Française movements to a comparative analysis. Nolte's conclusion was that fascism was the great anti-movement: it was anti-liberal, anti-communist, anti-capitalist, and anti-bourgeois."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Nolte

 

Of course, it is a bit more complicated than that, since fascism and nazism were not just the anti-socialist movements, but they developed their own ideologies in response to socialism. However, the response of the far left to Trump's challenge is to daub swastikas on cars. So in a way this harking back to Nazism does not betray desperation, but rather intellectual incapacity to come up with a new ideology. Instead the far left scrapes the historical barrel like knuckle dragging apes who want to think, but alas, cannot.

Socialist were not running Germany at the time of Hitler’s rise power or at any time before.

 

So please give up on your re-write of history.

 

You might want to apply the intelligence you mention in analyzing the parallels between Hitler’s power grab and that of Trump.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

 

I guess doing literal Nazi salutes -- oh, sorry, of course I meant "Roman salutes" -- and getting cheered for it by the audience is kind of a give-away. And Musk was not the only high-ranking Republican doing them during public conventions.

Surely not?!

[kimothai]

I find that these radical lefty’s wearing hoodies and masks, burning Tesla’s and calling people (they don’t like) “Nazi” pose a striking resemblance to another group that existed during the 1900’s and very notorious during the 1950’s.  They also wore hoodies (the white pointed variety) and masks and instead of Tesla’s they burned crosses.  They didn’t call the people they hated “Nazi’s” but they sure did throw the “N” word around a lot with a hatred connotation.  These Lefty’s seem to nothing more than modern day Klan.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Colki said:

To me it was not the gesture by Musk of  doing the 'nazi' salute . It was the fervour in how it was done and repeated but also the look on the face of Musk.

 

 

To me the issue is the student blindness that came over the Republicans and Trump’s supporters, both foreign and domestic.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, kimothai said:

I find that these radical lefty’s wearing hoodies and masks, burning Tesla’s and calling people (they don’t like) “Nazi” pose a striking resemblance to another group that existed during the 1900’s and very notorious during the 1950’s.  They also wore hoodies (the white pointed variety) and masks and instead of Tesla’s they burned crosses.  They didn’t call the people they hated “Nazi’s” but they sure did throw the “N” word around a lot with a hatred connotation.  These Lefty’s seem to nothing more than modern day Klan.

I believe Trump’s father knew a thing or too about that crowd.

 

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, Colki said:

To me it was not the gesture by Musk of  doing the 'nazi' salute . It was the fervour in how it was done and repeated but also the look on the face of Musk.

 

 

 

He was trolling you. 😄

[kimothai]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I believe Trump’s father knew a thing or too about that crowd.

 

Yes, at a rally but a member of Klan.

[kimothai]

1 minute ago, kimothai said:

Yes, at a rally but a member of Klan.

Not a member of the Klan

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, Dcheech said:

A NYPost article!  The bargain basement of right wing US tabloids. The lefts obsession?! Really, Looks like Elon led the way, and the NYP pretends it is the lefts obsession, knowing that the MAGA chorus will start singing.  

 

Funny how these didn't get labelled Nazis for doing the exact same thing

[Cameroni]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Socialist were not running Germany at the time of Hitler’s rise power or at any time before.

 

So please give up on your re-write of history.

 

You might want to apply the intelligence you mention in analyzing the parallels between Hitler’s power grab and that of Trump.

 

 

 

Errr, yes they were actually. Not just when he rose to power, in fact at the very beginning of his political development, the socialist republic was called out in 2018, but also throughout the 1920s and when Hitler rose to power. Hans Luther and Hermann Müller were SPD chancellors 1920, 1925, 1926, 1928, 1929, and 1930.

 

I am not rewriting history in the slightest, just giving it to you straight. Many cities, including Berlin, were in the hands of communists at the time.

 

The point is that socialism was a real social movement at the time, against which fascism and Nazism were reactions. Now Trump is the the real social movement, the bona fide agent for change and the far left are reacting against HIS dismantlement of existing structures. Much like the socialists dismantled the existing structures in Weimar Germany and the Nazis reacted against their actions.

 

So it really is quite amusing. The far left are the new Nazis. The far right Trump movement is the real movement for social change, political and economic change. 

[nycjoe]

The right wing is not my enemy, congress has been bought and sold, The changes that are happening in the USA will hurt people on the left and right, old and young, only the rich will prosper. 

 

[jts-khorat]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Funny how these didn't get labelled Nazis for doing the exact same thing

 

Raising a hand during a speech is a different thing to a salute.

 

Your argument might hold water, if he then would not have turned and *repeated* his offensive gesture, just to make sure that the audience could not mistake his intention. Cue in all those Republicans who later called it a "Roman salute", so that it was an intentional gesture got confirmed in a mad dash to downplay this action.

 

And the audience cheered him for it, so he definitely also was not "trolling", as another poster on here wrote, or all those people would have been duped.

 

Or is somebody telling me that American Republicans are easy to dupe??! I take that then as the next-best thing.

[Tug]

Pot kettle/black comes to mind…..obviously trumps labeling of adversaries enemy’s of the people scapegoating the defenseless using one group to treate as the enemy within…..rule by executive order not legislation…..lawlessness…..heck if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck ( kinda looks like a lumpy duck) most likely is a duck.

[Cameroni]

6 hours ago, Colki said:

To me it was not the gesture by Musk of  doing the 'nazi' salute . It was the fervour in how it was done and repeated but also the look on the face of Musk.

 

 

So when he held up a chainsaw with fervour did you think he was a lumberjack?

[TedG]

7 hours ago, Purdey said:

The USA is still one of the few countries in the world to have a Nazi Party today.

https://www.americannaziparty.com/

They are banned in more developed countries. Calling someone a Nazi in the USA when you actually do have a Nazi Party is hardly an egregious mistake, but it looks bad for non-Nazis.

In fact, leading up to the second world war, the Nazi movement was active in supporting Hitler. It doesn't mean Trump is a Nazi, though his family is of German descent.

 

The US does not ban parities.   There is no reason to do so. 

[TedG]

The average lefties lack critical thinking skills.  

[TedG]

4 hours ago, kimothai said:

Yes, at a rally but a member of Klan.

The Dems hates the Klan so much they had Robert KKK Byrd in the Senate for  51 years.  

[TedG]

24 minutes ago, Tug said:

Pot kettle/black comes to mind…..obviously trumps labeling of adversaries enemy’s of the people scapegoating the defenseless using one group to treate as the enemy within…..rule by executive order not legislation…..lawlessness…..heck if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck ( kinda looks like a lumpy duck) most likely is a duck.

Says the Nazi. 

[TedG]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Socialist were not running Germany at the time of Hitler’s rise power or at any time before.

 

So please give up on your re-write of history.

 

You might want to apply the intelligence you mention in analyzing the parallels between Hitler’s power grab and that of Trump.

 

 

tell me more about Trump’s power grab. 

[stuandjulie]

9 hours ago, jas007 said:

Most of the people on the left running around defacing Teslas are too dumb to know what they're doing. They've been programed to respond to everything they don't agree with labels such as "Nazi" or "Fascist."  Or, perhaps with some other term they probably don't even understand.  Ask any of them what an "oligarchy" is.  See if they know.  

A bit like Maga's not knowing what woke means then

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

 

Raising a hand during a speech is a different thing to a salute.

 

Your argument might hold water, if he then would not have turned and *repeated* his offensive gesture, just to make sure that the audience could not mistake his intention. Cue in all those Republicans who later called it a "Roman salute", so that it was an intentional gesture got confirmed in a mad dash to downplay this action.

 

And the audience cheered him for it, so he definitely also was not "trolling", as another poster on here wrote, or all those people would have been duped.

 

Or is somebody telling me that American Republicans are easy to dupe??! I take that then as the next-best thing.

if you aready have a certain opinion on things you will see the negative side of everything, just look at the unhinged posted here regarding anything Orange man says, frothy mouths and Pearl clutching on a nearly hourly basis!.

'blood bath' is a pretty good recent example, politicians used it many times to emphasise their point, Trump does it...all of a sudden,  Hysterical claims of murder in the streets.

from what i saw, Musk was a little over excited, but I do not for a second think it was a hitler, Nazi salute, ( neither Doe any sane people)  just as I didn't think that when Harris, Clinton or any others did it. Unfortunately the media is able to provoke reactions from the anti Trumpers so easily because they don't bother to check the the lies they're told because its what they want to hear, they are already spitting venom from the second they awake and have been for 9 years... they are so easy manipulated.

But Trumpers are the low IQ cult members.

 

[stuandjulie]

4 hours ago, kimothai said:

I find that these radical lefty’s wearing hoodies and masks, burning Tesla’s and calling people (they don’t like) “Nazi” pose a striking resemblance to another group that existed during the 1900’s and very notorious during the 1950’s.  They also wore hoodies (the white pointed variety) and masks and instead of Tesla’s they burned crosses.  They didn’t call the people they hated “Nazi’s” but they sure did throw the “N” word around a lot with a hatred connotation.  These Lefty’s seem to nothing more than modern day Klan.

So Musks Dad says he cannot be a racist because he used to talk to their black servants when in Africa and why have they removed all back and hispanic names of the wall of honour at Arlington ?

[TedG]

7 hours ago, UWEB said:

That's the South African Racist who is helping your Fascist Dictator to destroy the USA and turning into Western Russia. As you right wingers in your crude parallel Universe always telling that Hitler is a Socialist or Communist and  Musk has outed himself as a Fanboy of Hitler by using the Nazi Salute several times he must be a Socialist/Communist as well.

Why do you call him a fascist? 

[metisdead]

Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate.

[Pouatchee]

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

It reveals a disturbing trend where those who constantly cry "Nazi" are the ones exhibiting authoritarian tendencies themselves.

 

been saying that for years now. I used to be democrat inclined, but no longer.

[jas007]

15 hours ago, kimothai said:

I find that these radical lefty’s wearing hoodies and masks, burning Tesla’s and calling people (they don’t like) “Nazi” pose a striking resemblance to another group that existed during the 1900’s and very notorious during the 1950’s.  They also wore hoodies (the white pointed variety) and masks and instead of Tesla’s they burned crosses.  They didn’t call the people they hated “Nazi’s” but they sure did throw the “N” word around a lot with a hatred connotation.  These Lefty’s seem to nothing more than modern day Klan.

The political party surely lines up, right?  Democrats then. Democrats now.  Only the costumes have changed. 

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, stuandjulie said:

So Musks Dad says he cannot be a racist because he used to talk to their black servants when in Africa and why have they removed all back and hispanic names of the wall of honour at Arlington ?

Remove names?... got proof of that, and when was this supposedly done?

I am calling BULL. 

[riclag]

11 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

been saying that for years now. I used to be democrat inclined, but no longer.

Nbc Favorability rating among registered voters just dropped again for what use to be my Dad’s party, 27%. A 30+ year low. 

Party members like this below are what the 27% favor.They had 4 years to cause chaos , through out and they exceeded expectations.

 

Radicals who have little to offer but dog whistling and Marxist rhetoric,

similar to reps like Aoc ,Pressley & Crockett.Theres a picture of their newest darling in the source link.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-favorable-ratings-drop-record-low-new-national-poll