7 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Try Reuters:

 

'BANGKOK, March 29 (Reuters) - Myanmar's military rulers let in hundreds of foreign rescue personnel on Saturday after an earthquake killed over 1,000 people, the deadliest natural disaster to hit the impoverished, war-torn country in years'.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/myanmar-quake-death-toll-nears-700-international-aid-starts-arrive-2025-03-29/

yes,  I have read that Trump offered help,   and the spokewoman for USAID has confirmed that it's funding has been completely cut as well as staff so  ....

as the USAID spokewoman said,  staff drastically cut,  how can you send aid if you have no one to organise it and make it happen.  ?

 

Trump  =   egg on his face  

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it now appears China and Russia have stepped up to the plate,  Russia sending a 120 man rescue specialist group,  China is sending humanitarian aid as we speak   and Trump is still telling the USAID boss to work it all out even though they have little left to offer.   

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

but will the government take note and force construction standards

What standards exist here for quake-proof constriction: Thailand, like Northern 

Europe “never has earthquakes” and therefore, in both locations, there are no such standards. 

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I just hope miraculously that the death toll is not well into the thousands. 

Of course it is - though we will probably never know the true number of deaths due to the limitations currently imposed on western media within the country.

 

The Don.

2 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

yesterday

How do we know the effective strength in Bangkok (since it probably varied hugely depending on the type of ground/Klong/river/etc.  where it was measured! 

2 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

These figures are not very encouraging; it is possible that we may obtain a magnitude increase of +1.

Why would that be? And how/where was this measured in Bangkok?

2 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

In Myanmar, it felt like a 7.7

So it was only a feeling, was it! Not real? 

2 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

This is now being reported in the Thai media as 8.2

What is?
And what does any such report mean: this is a physical, scientific and precise fact, not the subject of a news report. 

2 minutes ago, Unamerican said:

What is?
And what does any such report mean: this is a physical, scientific and precise fact, not the subject of a news report. 

read the news

So this fault does not move very often — 

- March 28, 2025: magnitude of 7.7 Mw 

- January 1990: magnitude of 7.0 Mw 

- February 1912: magnitude of 7.9 Mw

 

And only on this one occasion were there any problems 1500km distant from the epicentre. 

3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

read the news

Precisely, No, do not!

 

This fact is not part of “the news”, it is simply a fact! 

22 minutes ago, Unamerican said:

What standards exist here for quake-proof constriction: Thailand, like Northern 

Europe “never has earthquakes” and therefore, in both locations, there are no such standards. 

what a load of rubish do your research

Thailand Seismic Regulation B.E. 2564  

Building Categories

There are 12 building categories added to the new regulation resulting in a total of 30 building categories required seismic design consideration.

13 minutes ago, Unamerican said:

So it was only a feeling

 

2 minutes ago, Unamerican said:

So this fault does not move very often — 

- March 28, 2025: magnitude of 7.7 Mw 

- January 1990: magnitude of 7.0 Mw 

- February 1912: magnitude of 7.9 Mw

 

And only on this one occasion were there any problems 1500km distant from the epicentre. 

condo developers are in the chat 😀

1 minute ago, Unamerican said:

Precisely, No, do not!

 

This fact is not part of “the news”, it is simply a fact! 

Are you ok !! because what you posted is gibberish

3 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

in Bangkok, it was around 4.5–5.5. What is confused you here?

Well:

1.  As explained previously, there is no such concept as measuring the strength in the terms anywhere except at the source of the quake. 
2.  Any similar measurement in Bangkok will have a large range, since it varies wildly with location and£ type of ground/water at the measurement point. 

5 minutes ago, Unamerican said:

 

So this fault does not move very often — 

- March 28, 2025: magnitude of 7.7 Mw 

- January 1990: magnitude of 7.0 Mw 

- February 1912: magnitude of 7.9 Mw

 

And only on this one occasion were there any problems 1500km distant from the epicentre. 

Well it moved yesterday  people dead  buildings damaged

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Are you ok !! because what you posted is gibberish

Sure, I am —

 

8 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

There are 12 building categories added to the new regulation resulting in a total of 30 building categories required seismic design consideration.

 just like your adorable cat!

 

But you seem to be mightily troubled??  . . . So sad! 

5 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Well it moved yesterday  people dead  buildings damaged

What moved, to where? 

1 minute ago, Unamerican said:

What moved, to where? 

may be get a nap?

Would that be a “found nap” or a “discordant nap”?? 

13 hours ago, Moonlover said:

No it could not. To suffer devastation on this scale, the country or region needs to be close to the epicentre of the quake. There are no tectonic fault lines running through Thailand that could cause such a quake.

Maybe not on that scale, but if building fail and roads turn into roller coasters it doesn't say much for construction methods in Thailand.

10 hours ago, Unamerican said:

What standards exist here for quake-proof constriction: Thailand, like Northern 

Europe “never has earthquakes” and therefore, in both locations, there are no such standards. 

I beg to differ....

The latest regulations, introduced in 2021, mandate seismic-resistant designs for buildings in Bangkok

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

I beg to differ....

The latest regulations, introduced in 2021, mandate seismic-resistant designs for buildings in Bangkok

It would be interesting to see the details of that 2021 mandate, but I sincerely doubt it is anything near the kind of rigorous standards Japan has.

There are far more newer buildings on the list of 38 damaged buildings in Bangkok. Maybe because newer buildings are taller, but it could also be that older, pre-'97, buildings were over engineered, simply because computer models and design s didn't exist at the time.

 

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

My heart really goes out to the Burmese people who are already suffering so much under that horrific regime, and now this? What did those poor souls do to deserve all this suffering?

 

I just hope miraculously that the death toll is not well into the thousands. 

 

Only for the horrific regime

Intraplate earthquakes are rare but have occured.  The 2001 Gujarat earthquake measured 7.6 on the Richter, resulted in extensive structural damage, and killed over 20,000.

 

In 2001, a large intraplate earthquake devastated the region of Gujarat, India. The earthquake occurred far from any plate boundaries, which meant the region above the epicenter was unprepared for earthquakes. In particular, the Kutch district suffered tremendous damage, where the death toll was over 12,000 and the total death toll was higher than 20,000.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intraplate_earthquake

 

Closer to home, the recent earthquake 95 km from Luang Prabang on Thu Nov 21, 2019, far from the nearest fault line, was an interplate earthquake measuring 6.2.

 

The first earthquake I had ever experienced in Thailand was located ENE of Ban Mone, Laos, 747 km  due north of Bangkok, on 16 May 2007 at 08:56, and clocked in at 6.3.  I can still recall my wife sitting next to me in our 9th floor condo as we both experienced the woozy sensation caused by the almost imperceptible swaying of our building.

 

https://asc-india.org/lib/20070516-laos.htm#:~:text=A strong earthquake struck western,peninsula causing some minor damage.

 

Any claim that an interplate earthquake is an impossibility for Bangkok as the epicenter would be false.  Unless the claim was made by God.  We mere mortals are confined to speculation only.  It is as improbable as it is probable.

 

Since an earthquake results in the release of energy and that energy travels as a wave then the intensity of that wave is measurable at any given point.  To use the Richter scale as a measurement may not be technically correct but the amount of energy that Bangkok experienced would be measurable on some sort of scale.

15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Kind of correct... away from the epicentre 'impact' is not 'measured' specifically... 

But, it is reported as an equivalent magnitude based on events, eye witness reports etc....   and reported as ML (local Magnitude), hence my figures quote Bangkok reported an energy of between 4 and 5 ML (i.e. 4-5 equivalent magnitude) many other reports are suggesting 4.5ML and others 5.0ML.

 

 

eye witness  reports are almost useless........... seen  some people saying the ground shook for 30 minutes..

13 hours ago, Unamerican said:

Well:

1.  As explained previously, there is no such concept as measuring the strength in the terms anywhere except at the source of the quake. 
2.  Any similar measurement in Bangkok will have a large range, since it varies wildly with location and£ type of ground/water at the measurement point. 

could even be amplified on BKK "soil type" alluvial 

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19 hours ago, hotchilli said:

This could be the aftermath in Thailand, but will the government take note and force construction standards...

 

I doubt it. they'll still use pople  from Cambodja and Mianmar because they're cheap labour wich is important for the Hi-So's.

1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

eye witness  reports are almost useless........... seen  some people saying the ground shook for 30 minutes..

 

The local magnitude (ML) of a Myanmar earthquake measured in Bangkok is calculated by recording the maximum amplitude of seismic waves at a seismograph in Bangkok.

 

The recorded amplitude is corrected for distance using a regional attenuation model that accounts for the unique seismic wave propagation characteristics of Southeast Asia, including geological variations and wave attenuation between Myanmar and Bangkok and local events and observations (i.e. eye witness accounts).

 

This ensures accurate ML estimation despite the significant distance between the epicentre and the measurement location.

 

Hence the reason for a 'range' of figures given across Bangkok...  4 to 5 ML and not one single figure.

 

17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

17 hours ago, Sierra Tango said:

I question your logic. The magnitude of an earth quake is a single value measured at the epicenter. This describes the size of the EQ at it's source. Shocks or tremours at various further diferences are not measured in magnitude.

 

Kind of correct... away from the epicentre 'impact' is not 'measured' specifically... 

But, it is reported as an equivalent magnitude based on events, eye witness reports etc....   and reported as ML (local Magnitude), hence my figures quote Bangkok reported an energy of between 4 and 5 ML (i.e. 4-5 equivalent magnitude) many other reports are suggesting 4.5ML and others 5.0ML.