I probably should have paid the money.

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

Spend up big MalcolmB, your purgative, however, you would have been the laughing stock, weak in my opinion

It is only an ice cream.

Didnt you buy a bargirl a house and a car?

[1FinickyOne]

23 hours ago, scorecard said:

I wouldn't put my son in that situation. 

You are absolutely correct... the big picture is that the party is ruined - his birthday party - - and only his and he will have that memory forever... 

 

In a very different circumstance, my father acted poorly and ruined my 7 year old birthday party - - and to this day, I never want my birthday to be acknowledged... 

Every year, though my father is long gone, I relive his bad behavior and the repercussions on my life... 

[Packer]

8 hours ago, RamblingOn said:

When in Rome do as the Romans!!!!

 

Remove 'as'. 😁

[NanLaew]

21 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Big hole in that story.

At KFC you line up and order before the food comes, they don’t bring a bill.

About as factual as this swenswens April fools story that did bring out the kii niaow farangs of this forum. 
 

Good try

 

That's right. You weren't there about 15 years ago in Khon Kaen.

[FritsSikkink]

On 4/2/2025 at 12:33 PM, Packer said:

But sometimes Thais make me want to pull out my hair.

 

It was my son's 11th birthday. We organized an ice cream cake at Swensen's at the shopping mall his friends and him hangout at every Saturday. He chose a 3lb chocolate ice cream cake, and arranged with his friends to meet him here at the specified time. More than enough for the 7 or 8 of his friends that showed up. First came one of their mothers, a loud busybody that never shuts up, straight away she was into dragging my son to the fridge to go through all the different cakes even though he had already chosen it. Then going through the entire menu with him even though he had already chosen it. Every one sits down, the plates and glasses of water arrive, everyone is chatting and laughing. The busybody comes down with the menus and is in everyone's face going through every page getting them to order sundae's etc. There's a big ice cream cake coming, why not just sit down and shut up. She's making them choose then double choose then triple choose pointing out extras. Everyone's settled and laughing and joking and then she declares we're going to move tables to the slightly wider table behind. Everyone has their bags and toys and phones and plates and glasses of water out on the table already, most don't even hear her because they're in the zone. She forces everyone up to move to the other table. The sundaes she made everyone order even though the big cake was ordered and coming started arriving and she was up trying to organize who gets what and what extras do they they want, maybe add this, maybe add that why not get this too etc just sit down and shut up. Each kid gets a big slice of the 3lb cake and loves it, none can finish the slice of cake and their sundae, of course. 

 

It came to the end and I got up to pay and told the waitress to bill me for the only the cake. Of course this simple request almost melted the minds, brains and computer system in the store and took 10 minutes and numerous managers and staff to figure out. 

 

I paid the 800 baht for the cake and left, leaving the rest of the 1,700 baht bill for the busybody motormouth to take care of. Maybe next time she'll sit down and shut up and let everybody enjoy their own time. 

 

It's now going round on group chat's that my son's father is tight and stingy and not good. 

 

 

Thailand. 

Why did you act like a door mat during the whole event?

[pomchop]

A very good Thai phrase to know and use is :  YAK BIN....means seperate checks...When seperate bins show up in front of each person some of them might get the message that you order it, you pay for it.

 

Also comes in handy with falangs who want to order extra expensive food and beverages and then divide the bill evenly.

[MartinL]

15 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Spend up big MalcolmB, your purgative ... 

Good choice of last word there! Freudian slip?

 

I'm sure we know what you meant, though.

[Ctkong]

900 tb is a small price to pay for not losing face for both the parent and his son as rumors travel far and wide in Thailand regardless true or not. 

[richard_smith237]

Just now, Ctkong said:

900 tb is a small price to pay for not losing face for both the parent and his son as rumors travel far and wide in Thailand regardless true or not. 

 

Its not about the money - and In the Ops shoes, I would hope the rumours do travel far and wide...  People respect a firm hand here... and the Op showed that.

 

I don't see any loss of face on his part - I didn't lose is temper, get angry or upset - he just put a busy-body in line, someone who'd stepped outside of her responsibility.

 

Perhaps one of the other Mums should have told her to calm down and take a step back - but it appears this woman was behaving without any respect or regard for the Op... he has no reason to try and 'maintain face' in the face of such behavior.

 

No face lost - respect earned by other others around...     That might night be the case, but whenever I've experienced similar behavior, thats what I have witnessed.

 

 

 

 

[Ctkong]

As some poster mentioned. There are better ways to resolve this situation. You cannot damage control the power of rumors especially in a close knit community . Spare a thought for your spouse and son . It does not help to expound the notion of a tight fisted farang for either parties. A 900tb is a small price to pay for the privilege.

[Ctkong]

20 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

You are absolutely correct... the big picture is that the party is ruined - his birthday party - - and only his and he will have that memory forever... 

 

In a very different circumstance, my father acted poorly and ruined my 7 year old birthday party - - and to this day, I never want my birthday to be acknowledged... 

Every year, though my father is long gone, I relive his bad behavior and the repercussions on my life... 

long after the party is gone, the memories lingers forever. That is my point . 

[Ctkong]

22 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

It appears this all went over your head.

 

I could have easily paid, however I appreciate Packers stance, in other words, if you allow others to take control, your weak, nothing to do with $'s.

 

Spend up big MalcolmB, your purgative, however, you would have been the laughing stock, weak in my opinion, what Packer did was show that he wasn't going to allow some biatch to take control of HIS son's birthday party and if she wanted to be a show pony, then she can pay for it, otherwise why would she be stabbing him in the back. 

The sole casualty I see here is his son . Children see, children heard and children form their own conclusion. Not always correct but there lies the problem. 

[Packer]

1 hour ago, Ctkong said:

Children see, children heard

 

Actually all the children were having fun in the private room and didn't see or hear anything.

 

Not that there was anything to see or hear anyway, other than the dad and busybody politely paying the bills at the cash register at the other side of the restaurant, the dad with a big happy smile, the busybody with that Thai siht-eating grin cum grimace, followed by smiley wais all round. 🙂

[ColeBOzbourne]

16 hours ago, Ctkong said:

The sole casualty I see here is his son . Children see, children heard and children form their own conclusion. Not always correct but there lies the problem. 

If that's the case, then turn it into a 'teachable moment' and explain to the child about how to avoid being taken advantage of by others. 

[4MyEgo]

On 4/4/2025 at 12:10 AM, MalcolmB said:

It is only an ice cream.

Didnt you buy a bargirl a house and a car?

 

Ah yes, I forgot you were one of those keyboard warriors, the ones that try to stoop low when they can't see past there noses.

 

With regard to my very loving wife, yes, I built her a house, on the land that I purchased for her, and yes a car as well, and gold and many other things, and yes she once was a bargirl, and what a great investment she has been to me.

 

Before you even try to respond, let it be known that I only invest as much as I am prepared to lose, and any married guy knows, that it's normal to buy a house, a car, and jewelry for their wife's, regardless of their past profession.

 

Do you question all women as to where they lost their virginity, how many males they slept with, forget I asked, I know the answer to that.

 

Fact of the matter is you can't accept things for what they are, Packer stood up and said NO to someone else crashing his sons party, i.e. ordering unnecessary items for each child without his approval, then crying over having to pay for what she ordered without his approval, remember, he had already preordered, so paid for what he ordered, not what she ordered.

 

I'd love to see your face if someone rang the bell ordered drinks on your bin at your birthday party without asking, same thing, or don't you get it, probably not.

 

I suppose if you were ever so lucky to find love/happiness, you would buy her ice cream instead of the above because you are not a cheap Charlie, i.e. if you could even have a relationship vs coming on this forum and going off topic and having a go, to try and win a lost argument.

 

I can only have empathy for people such as yourself, but...

 

EDIT: Oops, I forgot, it appears that most people agree with my original post, considering you don't get it.

 

 

 

 

 

[4MyEgo]

On 4/4/2025 at 8:54 PM, Ctkong said:

The sole casualty I see here is his son . Children see, children heard and children form their own conclusion. Not always correct but there lies the problem. 

 

Are you a psychologist or a parent ?

 

As a parent many times over, I can tell you children are resilient, and I'm sure Packer would have explained to his son after the party, as part of his ongoing education as a parent, as I have done many times, that you do not to allow people to force you into a situation, especially Thai's when it comes to ordering or buying things and expecting you to pay for it, simple really.

 

[4MyEgo]

On 4/4/2025 at 2:07 PM, MartinL said:

Good choice of last word there! Freudian slip?

 

I'm sure we know what you meant, though.

 

Indeed LOL

[MalcolmB]

14 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Before you even try to respond, let it be known that I only invest as much as I am prepared to lose, and any married guy knows, that it's normal to buy a house, a car, and jewelry for their wife's, regardless of their past profession.

Only if they have a job like a prostitute and you want to stop her from going to work then you must pay her.

Out in the real world the wife can continue working and buy their own care and contribute to the household.

 

16 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

what a great investment she has been to me.

Sounds like you don’t know much about investing. That sounds like a financial liability but as long as you are happy with your bargirl then that is all that matters. 
 

If Packer has a spouse I wonder what her occupation is? Sounds like he is doing it tough.

[4MyEgo]

On 4/4/2025 at 10:28 PM, Packer said:

 

Actually all the children were having fun in the private room and didn't see or hear anything.

 

Not that there was anything to see or hear anyway, other than the dad and busybody politely paying the bills at the cash register at the other side of the restaurant, the dad with a big happy smile, the busybody with that Thai siht-eating grin cum grimace, followed by smiley wais all round. 🙂

 

I believe we call that a slam dunk. Kudos to you m8.

[MalcolmB]

20 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I suppose if you were ever so lucky to find love/happiness, you would buy her ice cream instead of the above because you are not a cheap Charlie,

We are not discussing buying an ice cream for a prostitute, we are talking about inviting people to his sons birthday and making the guests pay.

 

He is all defensive now but he even wrote it in his OP a headline.

 

I think the problem stems from the farangs who marry the prostitutes. They are always treated as a customer, their wives have no earnings and they are always expected to pay for the extended family of the wife.

This is a result of the girl ending up with an ugly old desperado and a way of saving face with their family and social circles. If there is no financial gain then she will leave and get someone she actually likes.

 

In this case he should have paid for the ice creams instead of regretting it weeks later and making it awkward for his son. Nobody is going to show up next year.

[4MyEgo]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Only if they have a job like a prostitute and you want to stop her from going to work then you must pay her.

Out in the real world the wife can continue working and buy their own care and contribute to the household.

 

It's obvious to me that you haven't seen the real world, although you will sleep with bargirls/prostitutes and bag them at every opportunity you can, keyboard warrior who lives in a delusional world in my opinion.

 

I didn't try and stop her from working when I returned overseas, but she volunteered for your information, in other words, I would be ok with her sleeping to make money while I was away, I am not that fragile, face reality, not many could because I have seen the reality.

 

Yes, out in the other world, not the real world, there are more, much more opportunities for women to work, earn a decent crust and buy their own car, and contribute to the household, but my wife doesn't need to, do you have a problem with that, and I have never wanted to her to either, or work, both parents working creates problems, so if one is in a position to earn good money from their investments and would like his wife to stay home and look after things, and of course she being so inclined, wouldn't it be better, or is it all about she can pay her way vs I can afford to pay her way because what she provides for me suites us better ?

 

9 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Sounds like you don’t know much about investing. That sounds like a financial liability but as long as you are happy with your bargirl then that is all that matters. 
 

If Packer has a spouse I wonder what her occupation is? Sounds like he is doing it tough.

 

LOL, sorry that your so jealous that my investment has paid of with my wife, after all, we all look for the perfect partner, was I disappointed she wasn't a virgin......LOL

[Packer]

11 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

I believe we call that a slam dunk. Kudos to you m8.

 

Thank you. 🙂

 

 

[Packer]

BTW, she would have known what was going to happen and still went ahead with it, so no issue.

 

It turns out she's a fortune teller on TikTok with 10,000 followers. 🙂

[4MyEgo]

4 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

We are not discussing buying an ice cream for a prostitute, we are talking about inviting people to his sons birthday and making the guests pay.

 

He is all defensive now but he even wrote it in his OP a headline.

 

I think the problem stems from the farangs who marry the prostitutes. They are always treated as a customer, their wives have no earnings and they are always expected to pay for the extended family of the wife.

This is a result of the girl ending up with an ugly old desperado and a way of saving face with their family and social circles. If there is no financial gain then she will leave and get someone she actually likes.

 

In this case he should have paid for the ice creams instead of regretting it weeks later and making it awkward for his son. Nobody is going to show up next year.

 

Totally disagree with your post.

 

Let me be clear about this, even if I was back in my home country surrounded by farangs/parents of my sons/daughters birthday party that I invited them to, with me having stipulated to the staff what I want for my sons/daughters birthday party and Karen wants to take control ordering everything for everyone (not her kids party), then she is going to end up with the bill, less what I preordered, simple to me.

 

Sounds like she was showing off, overstepped her mark and ended up losing face, rightfully so. 

 

I am fortunate with regard to my wife's family never bothering us, and yes they are on struggle street, if the wife requires something, she will ask and I will provide, guess I'm one of the lucky ones, or the parents are that there daughter has someone to take care of her, better than a Thai could, yes I'm presuming, so it works for us both.

 

I must admit, that I did lay the ground rules in the beginning, i.e. I am marrying you, not your family and she agreed, now I know a lot of women would like that, regardless of nationality because most women are tight with their mums, mine isn't which is a bonus.

[hotsun]

On 4/2/2025 at 9:25 AM, CallumWK said:

 

Or maybe it's because he's a well known troll, who is just here to upset people?

Its easy to make him upset. Hes not much of a troll in that sense

[Packer]

Someone asked why his mother didn't put her straight. She's currently based in the US working for a MNC that she's been with since completing her Ph.D in Washington State, which is where we met. 🙂 

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

regardless of nationality because most women are tight with their mums, mine isn't which is a bonus.

Agreed, common amongst bar girls to have falling out with family issues. 
It makes you wonder.

[4MyEgo]

20 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Agreed, common amongst bar girls to have falling out with family issues. 
It makes you wonder.

 

I get it now, your an expert on bargirls.

 

My wife didn't have a falling out with her mum, she has her own life, kids etc etc

 

The daughter of 4 daughters, 1 still lives at home looking after Mum & Dad, the other 2 around the corner, same same, busy with husbands and kids, nothing to do with falling out, the family is tight, but each have their own lives.

 

But thanks for your expertise analysis LOL