To 'Save the Frogs' and others who support this Trump idiot - hang your heads in shame.

 

Lawless before he came to Office and Lawless now, this convicted Felon and Sex offender should NEVER have been elected.

 

I am not a 'Trump hater' - (Trump followers like to describe those with rational doubtsabout him as 'haters'). Not so. It's obvious at a glance that Trump doesn't think things through and he ends up in a mess, dragging the USA with him.

 

Trump has been a stain on and a disgrace to the great USA from the start. Let's see how this latest nonsense goes down with the Republican hierarchy.

 

God save America. And save us all from this idiot.

 

 

There is normally some give and take in a negotiation ,Trump has shown he is willing to be flexible..

😋

EUR/THB plummeting.

Nice surprise 😡 

USD/THB even worse 

7 minutes ago, johng said:

There is normally some give and take in a negotiation ,Trump has shown he is willing to be flexible..

😋

sorta like every other line out of his mouth - a lie - he was specifically queried about a 90-day break in the tariffs and said definitely not!  He has no real plan, just shooting from the hip so to speak and in no way caring what damage he does to not only the US but many countries around the world.  IMHO and I am anti-democrat but also no fan of Trump.

A rambling nutcase with only regard to the super rich impeach and lock him up so we never have to hear him say the elongated Chinnnnnaaaa again 

What a bunch of thief's the US gov admin are ....

 

This is nothing short of  Market Manipulation ...      ALL PLANNED NO DOUBT   !

 

*  check Trump's stock purchases recently and anyone else connected.  I'll bet they made millions shorting stocks ...

 

FFS  ....   absolute crooks    !!

Never sell into a storm folks.

 

Some nice bargains right now.

He panics easily because his policies are never carefully thought through.

8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

What a bunch of thief's the US gov admin are ....

 

This is nothing short of  Market Manipulation ...      ALL PLANNED NO DOUBT   !

 

*  check Trump's stock purchases recently and anyone else connected.  I'll bet they made millions shorting stocks ...

 

FFS  ....   absolute crooks    !!

The folks around Trump ALREADY have millions, if not billions. They don't need to play silly games like shorting the market.  What is happening is what was predicted long ago- the tariffs are a negotiating tool, nothing more.  And it is clear who the ultimate target is in all this- China.  It is a way for the rest of the civilized world to line up in a pseudo free trade zone, opposed to China and it's hideous protectionist policies. 

 

People like Marco Rubio and Scott Bessent and Howard Lutnick are hardly idiots. They are very smart men and have a clear vision of what is necessary, and also of who the real enemy of freedom is. 

Four-D Chess?

 

Very stable genius.

 

 

Economic moron manipulated by Navarro and Lutnick who are catering to his narcissistic need to be the center of attention. Anyone who thinks people in the administration aren't profiting from insider trading during these induced market machinations is an idiot.

Nancy Pelosi ?

4 minutes ago, johng said:

Nancy Pelosi ?

Jared Kushner? Marjorie Taylor Greene?

24 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

The folks around Trump ALREADY have millions, if not billions. They don't need to play silly games like shorting the market.  What is happening is what was predicted long ago- the tariffs are a negotiating tool, nothing more.  And it is clear who the ultimate target is in all this- China.  It is a way for the rest of the civilized world to line up in a pseudo free trade zone, opposed to China and it's hideous protectionist policies. 

 

People like Marco Rubio and Scott Bessent and Howard Lutnick are hardly idiots. They are very smart men and have a clear vision of what is necessary, and also of who the real enemy of freedom is. 

 

How can you argue that this was all "just a negotiating tool, nothing more?" He's had to backtrack without having gained a single concession from any major trading partner. As far as your "they're all so rich already" argument, just look at the greed demonstrated in the proposed tax policies, the cruelty shown to the lower classes, and the wanton slashing of regulations and shutter of agencies which impact their business interests.

Geezus man, yet another Trump is an Idiot thread inspired by me?

Why couldn't you just post in the other thread? 

 

12 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

It's obvious at a glance that Trump doesn't think things through

that's your problem right there - at a glance. by your own admission.

that's what everyone is doing - just glancing at the situation.

most people are not able to "think things through" because whats going on is too complex for most people to grasp.

I'm not saying I know for sure what he's doing or even if it's a good thing. I just put out "a theory" of what he might be doing. 

 

If you think #TRUMP is intelligent and this is all part of his grand plan, then sorry, you are surely mistaken.

What TRUMP does have is RAT CUNNING, he is not intelligent and the litany of failed businesses & bankruptcies he has left behind him says it all about his business acumen. Anyone who has to tell his "followers" how smart he is, definitely is not. Nor is he the genius he also says he is.

His only 'strategy" is to cut & burn and see what happens. Saying afterwards "it's all part of the plan" is only for the Morons who voted him in. No one of a mild intelligence believes this crap.

Being someone that is soon to retire and hoping to live off my investments, I feel I have skin in the game even if I'm not an American (thank god).

Unsure whether Donald understands that Undo in real life is not the same as this:

 

Just simple Market Manipulation. Insider trading has increased the fortunes of a lot of rich friends of the White House. Financial gain for a select few, while screwing the rest of the world.
If you think Trump is controlling the tariff flip-flops, you're crazy.  He is a puppet, a TV actor following a careful script worked out before he ever set foot again in a position of power.

1 hour ago, TorquayFan said:

God save America. And save us all from this idiot.

No, the Americans deserve him. 
The morons voted him in once, you could forgive that. Twice, let them wallow in misery.

He's a reactionary, in the literal sense of the word. He reacts.

 

No strategy beyond the end of today.

Ok ladies and germs,

 

I can see that this debate will go on forever. 

 

I surrender. 

 

Not one more word about Trump from me ever again.

 

Mods, please lock up my "Trump is NOT an Idiot" thread. 

28 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene?

 

She's been a busy little trader...

 

https://www.investing.com/news/company-news/marjorie-taylor-greene-makes-multiple-stock-purchases-including-amazon-and-apple-93CH-3977374

20 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

that's your problem right there - at a glance. by your own admission.

that's what everyone is doing - just glancing at the situation.

most people are not able to "think things through" because whats going on is too complex for most people to grasp.

I'm not saying I know for sure what he's doing or even if it's a good thing. I just put out "a theory" of what he might be doing. 

 

You're twisting the phrase "at a glance." What is meant is that one need only scratch the surface of his tariff plan to realize that it was poorly thought out. Look at the simplistic childlike ChatGBT way the reciprocal tariff rates were calculated. Look at the simplistic claims that trillions of dollars in tariff revenue were going to flow into government coffers with zero consideration given to the fact that government revenue would drop due to slowed economic activity. Look at the failure to consider how automation in manufacturing greatly reduces the need for labor in modern factories. Look at the unrealistically rosy projections about how quickly the transition to manufacturing period will be. Look at the failure to consider how the economic damage inflicted on other economies will affect demand for US goods and services abroad. Yes, it takes little more than a glance to identify the analytical flaws in Trump's tariff plan.

Sadly there are some that can't see the wood/forest for the trees. Countries now have 90 days to negotiate. This was always about negotiating terms. Vietnam and Cambodia for example have already offered a zero % tariff. Let's see what the markets do 90 days from now. Last night DJ +3000 points (massive), NASDAQ up 12% and S&P up 9.5% on hearing the announcement of a 90 day grace period to negotiate.

11 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Yes, it takes little more than a glance to identify the analytical flaws in Trump's tariff plan.

NO.

Because you don't have all the information yet.

You need to WAIT to see how things unfold.

 

Here's a development ... China wants to make a deal

 

 

10 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

NO.

Because you don't have all the information yet.

You need to WAIT to see how things unfold.

 

Here's a development ... China wants to make a deal

 

 

he's probably made that story up also ,    along with his other 100 lies ....    Lol  

11 hours ago, steven100 said:

he's probably made that story up also ,    along with his other 100 lies ....    Lol  

 

you can't even trust your own shadow in this day and age, man.

 

44 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

What is happening is what was predicted long ago- the tariffs are a negotiating tool, nothing more.

And the MAGA heads have a new narrative for on his latest F up, & can use an old standards ... 'Trust the plan'  &  'the art of the deal'.  

On the plus side he did not crash the world economy, on the negative side, China knows what a joke he is, if they didn't already. All bark, & nothing. Wait him out & he will sull. Panama, Greenland & Canada also know how empty his bellowing really is. This should help the Ukraine too.

The coffee seems to taste better this morning, go figure.

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

Very stable genius.

 

A stable?  Like where they keep the jackass?

Ok, maybe he is the smartest one in the stable.