Report Thailand Bans Corporal Punishment in Landmark Child Rights Move

[kingstonkid]

 

 

2 hours ago, digger70 said:

Send the offenders to the headmaster  and ask the headmaster to expel them  if they a Real bad .     

 

3 hours ago, Emdog said:

l taught severely emotionally disturbed students, first for Oregon county, grades 4-8 and later at "inner city" high school, ages 14-21. Students who got in my classroom didn't just "act up" or "ignore" teachers. They had to go thru all sorts of placement procedures and psychiatrist interviews.

My mentor/boss was renowned author and educator who promoted "democracy in the classroom" and outlook of Dreikurs. Whole different thing from typical carrot/stick behaviorism. https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/maintaining-sanity-classroom-management-techniques/author/rudolf-dreikurs-bernice-bronia-grunwald/

Why do adults use corporal punishment against children? Simple answer is we are bigger than they are.

and can't think of alternative. With tantruming grade school kids we would cross arms over chest and hold them til they calmed down. More difficult with high school students.

Most  of my students were young, black males, often with gang affiliations. Like to see one of the pro spanking crowd here try that on them! I had some who could bench press 425 pounds, were taller, bigger and in prime of life. I was older white guy, hardly Reacher material. So you had to work with them.

Treat them with respect, treat them as equal citizens within the framework of schools (not easy as most US schools patterned after 19th century Prussian military academies). Together we made the rules and the consequences. It made sense: last chance before becoming full fledged adult citizens.... put democracy in practice, not just theory. One might get all nuts and complain "this place is like a prison!!!" I'd agree to some aspects, but what we have to work with and if they have a better plan than being in school, well, the door isn't locked.... you could walk out any time... a couple times they had guns in my classroom (didn't know it at the time, and if I did what would I do anyway?).

In the decades I taught I was only shoved once. Sadly, lost average of one a year from load of 18 to gun violence: murder/murdered or suicide. I loved those guys. I always thought if they could just make it into their 20s with a lick of sense, they could be awesome. Some did and some were.

But to finish up: no one sends their kid to school to be physically assaulted by authorities. School should be an inviting place

 

The challenge is that this is not a school like the U.S. You can not send a child to the Director he/she does not care.  

 

he truth is that most Thai parents do not know what to do with their kids and suspending them is the worst hing as the kids stay home and do nothing but play games unsupervised at home.

 

The challenge is that a student, no matter what happens, passes, there is nothing to it. The kids know this.

 

I am not saying that un fettered corporal punishment is a great thing BUT what I am asking is what are the alternative.  Remember the only thing most teachers know is corporal punishment and have no idea what to do.

 

You can not send a kid outside the room They don't care.  There is no punishment that you can count on.  

[Kung69]

5 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

And without it we have nations full of diligence.

By the way, corporal punishment never hurt anyone long time, it set boundaries and taught consequences. This no of the many trillions that grew up, with minor punishment, with little longer violence issues, compared with today.

I understand  English may be your second language but your post makes very little sense,  particularly the last sentence. There is a general consensus across the board of educational thinking  that  violence  is a short term expedient used when the time or patience for good parenting is absent.

[Aussie999]

1 hour ago, Kung69 said:

I understand  English may be your second language but your post makes very little sense,  particularly the last sentence. There is a general consensus across the board of educational thinking  that  violence  is a short term expedient used when the time or patience for good parenting is absent.

You're right and wrong, English is my first language, but right that it makes no sense, sent it far too early in the morning.

As for general consensus, a modern day woke failing, kids no longer understand boundaries and run amok at school, home, and on the streets, rarely happened in my days, ask your parents/ grandparents.

[sambum]

7 hours ago, MikeUdon said:

Impressive. You managed to cram xenophobia, conspiracy theories, and generational bitterness into one post—a real multitasker.

Insulting entire generations of Western kids while hiding behind the word “respect” doesn’t make you wise—it just makes you loud. Respect for the elderly doesn’t mean unquestioning obedience to outdated thinking. It’s not tradition if it’s afraid of change; it’s just insecurity in a costume.

As for Soros, blaming him for society's evolution is the intellectual equivalent of blaming gravity for tripping over your ego.

Positive parenting might not be your cup of tea, but clearly, neither was critical thinking. Hope the view from that high horse is worth the fall.

 

".......is the intellectual equivalent of blaming gravity for tripping over your ego."

 

Nice turn of phrase - I like it!

[Russel]

Thailand is becoming more and more Westernized with all the terrible consequences that this entails.

[reflectionx]

Oh the irony!!! A bunch of entitled babyboomers who left their children and grandchildren thousands of kilometres away preaching Thais about parenting, while the rest of the baby boomers are rotting in the retirement homes in America while their positively patented kids don’t give a damn about them!

 

The times of the western globo-homo propaganda are over. Everyone and their dog know the truth.

[Ebumbu]

Surprised at this move toward science, not vengeance. Corporal punishment causes permanent damage in kids. Yes, even spanking. The clinical evidence is overwhelming. Kudos to Thailand.