Politics Former PM Thaksin Shinawatra's Hospital Stay Sparks Political Tension in Thailand

[bannork]

6 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

 

 

I think if it were not for a fear of the PPP that this would have happened.  The issue is that Thaksin got inon a sweet heart deal that allowed him back to be here and QUIETLY do things however as with past lives he has over layed his cards.

 

The reasoning that he feels so safe has nothing to do withPTP and everything to do with the fact that the ELITES fear the PPP.

 

Their Dem party is dead

The military parties are a farce and ot being taken seriously

BJT has not revealed that it can exist outside of areas that Chidchob has financial influence.

 

Also, the Senate is under fire, so it is not guaranteed that it will be around to stop any PPP bills.

 

Military take overs are out becuse the people do not trust the military and would protest and out the leaders.

 

Therefore they have to look at how long they can stand the taste of Thaksin in their food before it makes their political meals unpalateble.

 

The time is getting near the country is in a mess and tehre is ot Prime Minister that can act as a leader.

 

If BJT can build a coalition to at least make a minority government supported on ethical grounds by the PPP, then I think Thaksin goes, as well as his daughter and possibly the party.

 

But it is a lot to ask

 

BJT are more conservative than PT, they can't join with the reformists PPP. 

The elite are stuck with Thaksin I'm afraid. Already there are manoeuvres to have the order suspending the doctors rescinded 

Sadly in the end I suspect the verdict will be Thaksin was 'seriously' ill, stay in police hospital justified.

 

[JJ-Thailand]

He was very sick. 😂😂😂

[Mark Hopkins]

6 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

 

 

I wonder how much longer before another military coup?

Waiting with withering patience for that, with a hope the Baht drops for a while as a consequence?

[DonniePeverley]

What's bizarre is the previous military regime could have stayed on and nothing would have changed. I wondered what prompted Prayut and co to just walk away so meekly. Outside forces? 

 

 

[sandrew33]

1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

What's bizarre is the previous military regime could have stayed on and nothing would have changed. I wondered what prompted Prayut and co to just walk away so meekly. Outside forces? 

 

 

And what would that have achieved? 

 

There was an election required, they didn't win, he was deeply unpopular. If by outside forces you mean the Thai population then sure 

[DonniePeverley]

15 minutes ago, sandrew33 said:

And what would that have achieved? 

 

There was an election required, they didn't win, he was deeply unpopular. If by outside forces you mean the Thai population then sure 

 

 

You think there are no outside forces controlling South East Asia? Go read up on history on how America had puppet regimes (for their interests) in countries that suited them. Who controls the asian sphere (except South Korea and Japan)? There is your answer. 

 

The rest is just performative nonsense. 

[kingstonkid]

19 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

 

 

I wonder how much longer before another military coup?

 

The eliltes that run everything I think do not want a coup  It is the last thing that they need.  Chan O went a little too far and the elites and military are paying for it in the form of the PPP.

 

Any overt action by the military will only strengthen the PPP and those against the military, in that it would further upset the PTP (red) supporters and the PPP orange.

 

Add to that that the PTP has again become the cause of the country's trouble and the lack of direction on the 10K or making life better for Thais.The best thing that could happen right now is that Thaksin get the message that he is a dinosaur and goes to play with he grandkids, let his daughter either develop a plan to help the country, or if she is not able, then for her to resign as PM and put someone in. 

 

No one, including the PPP, has come forward with a plan to help the country. The party that makes a plan that can be vetted by experts will emerge from this alive or growing.  

 

 

[madone]

16 hours ago, cynic1 said:

 

I'm, " outside the region " as you state. I'm in Australia and visited Thailand many times and keep up with Thai news as i am married to a Thai. You would be very surprised how many are "watching this". Maybe because you never travelled outside Asia, My Aussie, American, NZ, etc etc are following this. In short they  think Thailand is corrupt from Top to Bottom. I wish I could just wipe my rear to make it all go away. Maybe you should!

ok, because you and a group of outliers that have first-hand experience and some sort of connection with Thailand -- and perhaps read and post on this site -- are watching, the whole world must be watching too. 

gotcha

[kingstonkid]

16 hours ago, bannork said:

BJT are more conservative than PT, they can't join with the reformists PPP. 

The elite are stuck with Thaksin I'm afraid. Already there are manoeuvres to have the order suspending the doctors rescinded 

Sadly in the end I suspect the verdict will be Thaksin was 'seriously' ill, stay in police hospital justified.

 

Actually I think the reverse is true.  I think inorder to remove Thaksin frm being a pain in hte assets, they will find him guilty.  People in the system that have already been compensated will be held responsible 

 

Either putting him in jail or letting his jet leave the country would not be a bad thing, nor would charging his daughter and removing her as PM..

 

The deal, then, is to keep the party alive and therefore the government.  The sad part is that we might end up with PM Anutin

[kingstonkid]

16 hours ago, cynic1 said:

 

I'm, " outside the region " as you state. I'm in Australia and visited Thailand many times and keep up with Thai news as i am married to a Thai. You would be very surprised how many are "watching this". Maybe because you never travelled outside Asia, My Aussie, American, NZ, etc etc are following this. In short they  think Thailand is corrupt from Top to Bottom. I wish I could just wipe my rear to make it all go away. Maybe you should!

In all honesty, I think that unless, like you, a person has some skin in the game, they really do not care.  Most countries have enough crap happening in their own borders that they really do not care what is happening outside.

 

You have family living in Thailand, therefore, yes, you will care to that extent. However, unless people are coming here or have been here and are thinking of coming back, they do not care about  Asia, which is south of China.

[bannork]

52 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Actually I think the reverse is true.  I think inorder to remove Thaksin frm being a pain in hte assets, they will find him guilty.  People in the system that have already been compensated will be held responsible 

 

Either putting him in jail or letting his jet leave the country would not be a bad thing, nor would charging his daughter and removing her as PM..

 

The deal, then, is to keep the party alive and therefore the government.  The sad part is that we might end up with PM Anutin

 

53 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Actually I think the reverse is true.  I think inorder to remove Thaksin frm being a pain in hte assets, they will find him guilty.  People in the system that have already been compensated will be held responsible 

 

Either putting him in jail or letting his jet leave the country would not be a bad thing, nor would charging his daughter and removing her as PM..

 

The deal, then, is to keep the party alive and therefore the government.  The sad part is that we might end up with PM Anutin

I think Pheu Thai cannot survive without Thaksin. The godfather of populist policies is what has sustained it throughout all these years. With him gone, I believe the party would disintegrate into various local factions. 

Perhaps the elite would prefer that, politicians only seeking mutual benefit, no ideology involved except for PP. 

But if the Shinawatrs really left the scene, some PT could join PP. Perhaps a formidable force could be formed there 

[kingstonkid]

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

I think Pheu Thai cannot survive without Thaksin. The godfather of populist policies is what has sustained it throughout all these years. With him gone, I believe the party would disintegrate into various local factions. 

Perhaps the elite would prefer that, politicians only seeking mutual benefit, no ideology involved except for PP. 

But if the Shinawatrs really left the scene, some PT could join PP. Perhaps a formidable force could be formed there 

I did not say that he would divest himself of the party.  As he showed while in exile, he can still control the party, just not in as vocal a manner.  I do agree, though, that BJT, PTP and a lot of other parties are completely reliant on their financial benefactors.   PPP and teh military parties less so.  Military is backed by more thanone person and is more broader in support.

[cynic1]

6 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

In all honesty, I think that unless, like you, a person has some skin in the game, they really do not care.  Most countries have enough crap happening in their own borders that they really do not care what is happening outside.

 

You have family living in Thailand, therefore, yes, you will care to that extent. However, unless people are coming here or have been here and are thinking of coming back, they do not care about  Asia, which is south of China.

I know Asia is South of China. What has that got to do with anything? What is your point? Unless your inferring back to the past in the 60's and 70's when America was worried about the spread of communism?  Well i can assure you Australia and definitely me and my children will not make that mistake again to protect any Asian country for the sake of America believing in this spread of communism b/<deleted>.  We will not join the US in this paranoid communism belief again. Asia will have to do it alone. Which would be a first. That should have been done during the past Vietnam war which not only affected Vietnam, but Cambodia Laos and other near Asian neighbours and resulted in the death of innocent non-combatant Asians thanks to the Americans dropping bombs everywhere they felt compelled to do so. We are ALL human beings.

[kingstonkid]

5 minutes ago, cynic1 said:

I know Asia is South of China. What has that got to do with anything? What is your point? Unless your inferring back to the past in the 60's and 70's when America was worried about the spread of communism?  Well i can assure you Australia and definitely me and my children will not make that mistake again to protect any Asian country for the sake of America believing in this spread of communism b/<deleted>.  We will not join the US in this paranoid communism belief again. Asia will have to do it alone. Which would be a first. That should have been done during the past Vietnam war which not only affected Vietnam, but Cambodia Laos and other near Asian neighbours and resulted in the death of innocent non-combatant Asians thanks to the Americans dropping bombs everywhere they felt compelled to do so. We are ALL human beings.

You misread what I wrote,, sorry for not being clear. most people do not care about Asian countries south of China.   They used to care about Afghanistan a little about Pakistan, but as to ASEAN countries, naw unless, as I said you have skin in the game, they really do not care.

[cynic1]

11 minutes ago, cynic1 said:

I know Asia is South of China. What has that got to do with anything? What is your point? Unless your inferring back to the past in the 60's and 70's when America was worried about the spread of communism?  Well i can assure you Australia and definitely me and my children will not make that mistake again to protect any Asian country for the sake of America believing in this spread of communism b/<deleted>.  We will not join the US in this paranoid communism belief again. Asia will have to do it alone. Which would be a first. That should have been done during the past Vietnam war which not only affected Vietnam, but Cambodia Laos and other near Asian neighbours and resulted in the death of innocent non-combatant Asians thanks to the Americans dropping bombs everywhere they felt compelled to do so. We are ALL human beings.

 

11 minutes ago, cynic1 said:

I know Asia is South of China. What has that got to do with anything? What is your point? Unless your inferring back to the past in the 60's and 70's when America was worried about the spread of communism?  Well i can assure you Australia and definitely me and my children will not make that mistake again to protect any Asian country for the sake of America believing in this spread of communism b/<deleted>.  We will not join the US in this paranoid communism belief again. Asia will have to do it alone. Which would be a first. That should have been done during the past Vietnam war which not only affected Vietnam, but Cambodia Laos and other near Asian neighbours and resulted in the death of innocent non-combatant Asians thanks to the Americans dropping bombs everywhere they felt compelled to do so. We are ALL human beings.

Peace brother.

[harryviking]

On 5/14/2025 at 5:37 AM, Artisi said:

Not sure, but brown envolope seems like a good substitute. 

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[madone]

20 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

You misread what I wrote,, sorry for not being clear. most people do not care about Asian countries south of China. 

you were perfectly clear, you are talking to literalist nutjob spoiling for an argument,