A Trump Hater is a Traitor

[WDSmart]

I'm a Trump Hater! 😡

As far as those who supported or still support him, I divide them into two classes:
- Those who actually have the same values as Trump. I hate them. 😡
- Those who have been duped by Trump. I pity them and hope they see through his con jobs. 😔

[Wrwest]

On 5/30/2025 at 7:02 PM, Hummin said:

Enough to say you hate Trump, and that's it, you are a traitor of your country

 

 

Me, fir sure can not travel to USA if they would look through my posts here at AN

I, for one, do not "hate" trump. Hate seems to me an emotion based response. No, rather trump is anathema to me. He represents the worst of the American character. He is the embodiment of what my parents, teachers, Scoutmasters taught me not to emulate. And so it is, I oppose his policies, his actions as they are an attack on the best of the American ideals. I will confess to having little tolerance for those questioning my American citizenry based on my documented DNA going back to and participating in the country's founding.

[Wrwest]

On 5/30/2025 at 7:11 PM, CallumWK said:

Coming from the guy who doesn't live in the US because he can't afford it

Certainly a large reason why I have been outsourced in retirement. Thus, I continue to identify with the working middle class squeezed by the economic policies of both parties for decades.

[Wrwest]

On 5/30/2025 at 7:52 PM, save the frogs said:

 

Guilty as charged.

I'm a loser.

But I'd rather cut it in Thailand.

So being a loser was a blessing in disguise. 

I do appreciate the irony and confess to goading MAGA. I observe that after a lifetime of work, I cannot afford a working middle class retirement in my own country. Then the irony ... sentenced to be "outsourced" to a lower cost county, such as tropical Thailand with its excellent healthcare and other benefits. Then the goading ... reminding MAGA that I appreciate their working hard so that they can send me their Social Security contributions each month so I can survive my hardship retirement in Thailand. I can only imagine that there might be some "strokes" or "heart attacks" if anyone bothered to read my posting.

[Wrwest]

On 5/30/2025 at 8:14 PM, proton said:

While a BLM supporter is just an idiot 😄

Confused. Why bring in the Bureau of Land Management. Sorry, couldn't help myself. 555 I'll show myself out.

[Wrwest]

20 hours ago, illisdean said:

Is this a lie.....lol

 

 

 

While it is speculation, projecting the findings and writing of Presidential administration history, I do think it will turn out to be a lie, yes. Oh absolutely, the faults will be observed based on the factual historical documentation. But overall, the Biden Presidency will be judged more positive than negative based on my study of history.

[black tabby12345]

A Trump Hater is a Traitor

 

Makes a perfect sense if you skip ”Hater”, LOL.

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Just face the reality.

How much damages did he do to own country in less than the first 3 months in office?

 

Inflation worsened.

So many Americans ended up as the jobless/worrying about losing their jobs/business due to his lunacy.

Foreign tourists started to avoid US of A as they might be busted by his Gestapo without guilt.

NATO allies now recognize US as the New Enemy like Putler.

[Thingamabob]

On 5/30/2025 at 7:40 PM, Celsius said:

 

I hear this a lot.

 

Let me tell you....any loser can cut it in Thailand. I am in Canada at the moment and can barely "cut" it here.

 

If you don't have cancer or your arteries clogged to the max you can cut it in Thailand.  It doesn't take much.

It takes time, money and brains to cut it in Thailand. Many fail.

[riclag]

18 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

says the nutbar claiming GM is shutting down US production. If you believe that you should read the book for retards posted above.

They/ them are all traitors, The dems with their dogwhistle activism are destroying 

everything in their quest for far left control!

 

[harryviking]

On 5/30/2025 at 2:02 PM, Hummin said:

Enough to say you hate Trump, and that's it, you are a traitor of your country

 

 

Me, fir sure can not travel to USA if they would look through my posts here at AN

LOL! I would be deported so fast they would barely notised that I even had landed!🤣🤣 But I would of course not go to a country were they vote retarded clowns in as presidents!! 😂😂

[Mavideol]

On 5/30/2025 at 7:42 PM, Yagoda said:

You are spewing deranged lies, as always.

nope, he's telling the truth but you are to dumb to see it, open your eyes and tell us which one of @Jingthingcomments are a lie. Your guy harassed Zelensky to accept a cease fire but he didn't harass Putin, nor did he pursue Putin and forced him to accept the cease fire, your guy has been played and he doesn't want to face it, just like you , he can't accept the truth

[Yagoda]

27 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

Your guy harassed Zelensky to accept a cease fire but he didn't harass Putin, nor did he pursue Putin and forced him to accept the cease fire, your guy has been played and he doesn't want to face it, just like you , he can't accept the truth

LOL OK, got it LOL

[Lacessit]

IMO inflammatory titles should be strangled at birth, intended to provoke.

 

Fat chance of any intelligent debate.

 

Hello and goodbye.

[Lemsta69]

6 hours ago, animalmagic said:

If you are sending rapists back, would Trump be on that plane?

 

He's not an illegal alien nor is he a rapist. Let me ask you this: why are you so in love with third world dregs of humanity? When the barbarians are at the gate you're supposed to pour boiling oil on them, not give away your birthright and hand them the keys to the kingdom 🤣

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

He's not an illegal alien nor is he a rapist. Let me ask you this: why are you so in love with third world dregs of humanity? When the barbarians are at the gate you're supposed to pour boiling oil on them, not give away your birthright and hand them the keys to the kingdom 🤣

The "barbarian" I'm worred about is in the oval office and yes he is a rapist.

[animalmagic]

57 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

He's not an illegal alien nor is he a rapist. Let me ask you this: why are you so in love with third world dregs of humanity? When the barbarians are at the gate you're supposed to pour boiling oil on them, not give away your birthright and hand them the keys to the kingdom 🤣

I never claimed he was an illegal alien, however he was convicted of sexual abuse.  Your jump to alleging I'm in love with third world dregs of humanity is quite amusing but sad.  Pouring boiling oil on the barbarians at the gate seems a little excessive as most civilised nations have evolved to believe that sort of act is a tad over the top.  Keys to the kingdom?  Who's the king then?

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

Inflation worsened.

Sure about that?

 

5 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

So many Americans ended up as the jobless/worrying about losing their jobs/business due to his lunacy.

Hows that unemployment rate?

 

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

IMO inflammatory titles should be strangled at birth, intended to provoke.

The Truth is inflamatory? Some dude sold secrets because he hated Trump. You deny thats the allegation?

[Captain Flack]

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[ericbj]

Hatred or adulation of public figures is best avoided.

They may be right.  They may be wrong.  But one needs to understand what brought them to prominence.  Before pre-judging the issues.

What issues are they claiming to confront?

Are these problems real, or invented (deliberately fostered maybe)?

Are the solutions proposed practicable, in the circumstances?

Are the solutions being applied in a manner likely to produce positive results.

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My present, admittedly tendentious, views :-

 

1.   The United States is facing a very large, and snowballing problem of over-indebtedness.  Brought about by its issuing the global reserve currency, the US dollar.  This has resulted in the long-term postponement of the negative effects that would have been quickly felt if its local currency had not also been the world's reserve currency, in the form of US Treasuries; the partial possession of which by foreign trading partners means loans from abroad.

Borrowing can promote economic development, but research  suggests that when annual borrowing reaches about 90% of GDP, returns on loans break even, and beyond that point GDP fails to increase proportionately to increased borrowing.  US Government debt to GDP is currently about 130%, and considerably higher if one includes corporate and private debt.  And, with much higher interest rates than in the recent past, the debt will grow even if the budget were balanced (which is far from the case).

 

2.   The rush towards economic globalisation, with the lowering and even abandonment of protective measures such as tariffs, has failed to take into account large differences between more developed and less developed nations, in wages and other costs such as taxes and social and environmental protections.  Resulting in the hollowing out in more developed nations of manufacturing and even some service industries.  Including loss of career opportunities.  I.e. a social impact guaranteed to produce resentment.

 

3.   There has been a growing economic divide between the ultra-wealthy and their coterie of policy-promoters on the one hand and the bulk of the population on the other.  The former has generally benefitted from economic crises which have left the general population more impoverished. The explanation: there has been inflation over the years well in excess of the official c.p.i. numbers of around 2%.  Government "money-printing" goes mainly to the big commercial banks who loan it out at very low interest to their major clients.  The latter have little need for extra consumer goods, and so invest it, for example, in the stock market and real estate, causing prices in those sectors to boom way beyond what is normal based upon anticipated annual returns upon investment.

[That the mega-wealthy have more recently been migrating from the quoted sectors to precious metals, notably gold, various major currencies, bitcoin, and certain specific stock-market sectors, could be useful to know.  They have private sources of financial information]

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The foregoing are, in my estimation, some of the major issues that Trump claims he will resolve.

Can he do it?

No desire to pre-judge the results.  But he seems to have got off to a bad start.

Instead of reducing the budget, as desperately needed, he has increased spending.  To a degree that makes Musk's savings look like peanuts.  His antagonistic nature has led him to further raise the Pentagon's bloated military spending.

He is inconsistent in his pronouncements, seems to have no clear strategy for achieving what he seeks other than confrontation with all and everyone, including countries hitherto closely allied to the U.S.  His brashness is repugnant to many foreigners, although it may be appreciated by some Americans.  Diplomacy is certainly not his forte.

If his predecessors set the US dollar on a downward spiral by using it as a foreign policy tool, he has accelerated its fall.  But then he says he wishes to see it devalued in order to reduce imports and promote exports (from factories that have yet to be built).

Threatening to invade other countries on the grounds of self-interest is an argument that can be used by others.  But perhaps he has in mind Obama's "Americans are a special people." [not subject to international law and such like constraints]

[tomazbodner]

Given this is TACO thread...

 

Is Curtis Yarvin a patriot or a traitor? https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/31/politics/video/curtis-yarvin-anti-democracy-blogger-maga-gold-new-digvid

 

[metisdead]

Posts with screenshots of news items have been removed as there were no links provided to the sources of information.

 

Baiting troll posts and the replies have been removed.

[JimHuaHin]

If you are not an American, and you hate Trump, how can you be a traitor?

[bubblegum]

41 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

If you are not an American, and you hate Trump, how can you be a traitor?

My point, thanks beating me to it lol.

[darbie-foos]

Maybe so, but don't forget about Bidens involvement in all things nefarious

On 6/1/2025 at 12:37 PM, riclag said:

They/ them are all traitors, The dems with their dogwhistle activism are destroying 

everything in their quest for far left control!

 

especially Biden, he's up to his eyeballs and if FBI Kash and his boss Bondi keep rooting around in Sentinel it will become a total implosion in DC caused by a highly corrupted Biden.

 

https://open.substack.com/pub/andmagazine/p/biden-chinese-intelligence-and-the-d72?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=wzako