Will Trump bankrupt the US entirely?

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

The other way round.

I SEE the reality

OK, did Biden and the Democrats allow an open border?

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

OK, did Biden and the Democrats allow an open border?

I have seen a fenced barbed wired fence. It was not open 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

And yet he looks like a dignified Statesman and a staple genius compared to the circus goon. 

Yet the left was calling him Hitler as well. 

[rattlesnake]

On 6/5/2025 at 6:31 AM, Yellowtail said:

Hey, is one of your US businesses a hair salon? 

 

 

 

Now correlate that with his numerous posts on self-confidence, knowing your worth etc. 

[Yagoda]

20 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I have seen a fenced barbed wired fence. It was not open 

In other words, you dont live in reality. 

[DezLez]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

In other words, you dont live in reality. 

Just like you!

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

In other words, you dont live in reality. 

Look, your way of conversation is not my way. Look for a fool, it's not me.

[Yellowtail]

11 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

You are flat out wrong.

Someone claimed tariffs would just be passed in to customers, to which I responded:

Me: “Just like corporate income taxes are taxes passed on to the customers, but you're all for those, yes? 
Corporate income taxes both punish the consumer, but: 
Corporate income taxes punish domestic manufacturers. 
Tariffs punish foreign manufacturers.”

To which you responded: 
You: “I was an importer into the USA for a while. If there were taxes [duty] on any imported items, I had to pay it. My suppliers did not. Plain and simple.”

 

To which I responded: 
Me: “Your customers had to pay it, and it makes the import less desirable, effectively punishing the foreign manufacturer. You operated a business and honestly did not know what I meant? 
In any event, if you had been buying from domestic manufacturers, you'd have had to pay their corporate income taxes, and you'd have passed that on to your customers as well, yes?”

To which you responded: 
You: “my customers did not have to pay it because I did not raise prices...  what I was purchasing was not made in the USA...  if it were, I would not have had any margin for profit...”

To which I responded: 
Me: “Well that's great. You just proved that tariffs do not cause inflation, but they do generate additional tax revenue. Win-win!”
 

11 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

It proves nothing - most companies will pass on the price increase - I chose not to... please don't be so foolish as to think that my small company has any affect or is in any way an indicator of the whole economy. 

 

You are in over your skis if you think your limited knowledge applies to everyone... 

 

And actually, since my profits were smaller due to eating the costs, you could say that I paid less in taxes. And, I eventually stopped carrying that item. 

 

 

So, you used your business "as an indicator of the whole economy" to somehow prove I was wrong, but you call foul when I use your claim, and you just ended up proving I was right. Oh, what a tangled web and whatnot. 

 

Tariffs, wages and corporate income taxed are generally all passed on to the consumer. 

 

11 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Have you ever been in business? 

I have owned two, worked for probably twenty. The job I retired from was as the Operations Director over Southeast Asia, India and the Middle East for a small division of a Fortune 200 company. 

[Yagoda]

11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Someone claimed tariffs would just be passed in to customers, to which I responded:

Me: “Just like corporate income taxes are taxes passed on to the customers, but you're all for those, yes? 
Corporate income taxes both punish the consumer, but: 
Corporate income taxes punish domestic manufacturers. 
Tariffs punish foreign manufacturers.”

To which you responded: 
You: “I was an importer into the USA for a while. If there were taxes [duty] on any imported items, I had to pay it. My suppliers did not. Plain and simple.”

 

To which I responded: 
Me: “Your customers had to pay it, and it makes the import less desirable, effectively punishing the foreign manufacturer. You operated a business and honestly did not know what I meant? 
In any event, if you had been buying from domestic manufacturers, you'd have had to pay their corporate income taxes, and you'd have passed that on to your customers as well, yes?”

To which you responded: 
You: “my customers did not have to pay it because I did not raise prices...  what I was purchasing was not made in the USA...  if it were, I would not have had any margin for profit...”

To which I responded: 
Me: “Well that's great. You just proved that tariffs do not cause inflation, but they do generate additional tax revenue. Win-win!”
 

 

 

So, you used your business "as an indicator of the whole economy" to somehow prove I was wrong, but you call foul when I use your claim, and you just ended up proving I was right. Oh, what a tangled web and whatnot. 

 

Tariffs, wages and corporate income taxed are generally all passed on to the consumer. 

 

I have owned two, worked for probably twenty. The job I retired from was as the Operations Director over Southeast Asia, India and the Middle East for a small division of a Fortune 200 company. 

Nice intellectual destruction. Kudos to you

[DezLez]

20 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That virtually all leftists can do is lie and or dodge questions. 

Only so called "leftists"?

What about everyone else, are they all totally truthful?

PS;  What criteria do you use to define a so called "leftist" by just their posts?

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, DezLez said:

Only so called "leftists"?

No, is just much more common with leftists. 

5 minutes ago, DezLez said:

What about everyone else, are they all totally truthful?

No one is totally truthful, don't be silly. 

5 minutes ago, DezLez said:

PS;  What criteria do you use to define a so called "leftist" by just their posts?

People that lie and or dodge questions is the best indicator. But seething hate for Trump and MAGA, talking about "the science", going on about how stupid the people they disagree with are, how open minded they are, attacking people that ask questions they can't answer, assuming facts not in evidence are all great indicators as well. 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, is just much more common with leftists. 

No one is totally truthful, don't be silly. 

People that lie and or dodge questions is the best indicator. But seething hate for Trump and MAGA, talking about "the science", going on about how stupid the people they disagree with are, how open minded they are, attacking people that ask questions they can't answer, assuming facts not in evidence are all great indicators as well. 

But your Trump is the biggest liar out there, he must be a lefty in your book, eh....?  🤭

[Yellowtail]

13 minutes ago, transam said:

But your Trump is the biggest liar out there, he must be a lefty in your book, eh....?  🤭

He is a good bit too far left for my taste, yes. 

[ThreeCardMonte]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

But your Trump is the biggest liar out there, he must be a lefty in your book, eh....?  🤭

Say again!

 

 

 

 

Bye Bye Biden!

[Rimmer]

A post using a made up name for another poster has been, removed, please don't do this as it will only end badly.  Thank you.  @Yellowtail

 

 

[3NUMBAS]

China is ordering 300 airbus planes instead of Boeing

 

Poland has cancelled an order for Blackhawk choppers

 

its a common theme cos trump can’t be trusted an inch 

[transam]

Just now, ThreeCardMonte said:

Say again!

 

 

 

 

Bye Bye Biden!

I think that chap is retired, but Trump has been lying for years to get back in the big chair, you know, the bloke you probably voted for, the same bloke who has released criminals from prison just because he can..........

 

[Yellowtail]

50 minutes ago, transam said:

A ridiculous blanket assumption..........🙄

Sorry, I fixed it for you. 

[ThreeCardMonte]

24 minutes ago, transam said:

I think that chap is retired, but Trump has been lying for years to get back in the big chair, you know, the bloke you probably voted for, the same bloke who has released criminals from prison just because he can..........

 

Biden is a confirmed liar.

 

 

[3NUMBAS]

The eu now considers trump too unstable in the head to trust him ,he is considered worse than Putin 

[transam]

28 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Biden is a confirmed liar.

 

 

Chap, Biden is history, you support for the biggest political liar on the planet...........🙄

[ThreeCardMonte]

Just now, transam said:

Chap, Biden is history, you support for the biggest political liar on the planet...........🙄

Correct, he his history and a bonafide confirmed LIAR.

 

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Correct, he his history and a bonafide confirmed LIAR.

 

 

By you, who cares, now you have a whopper of a liar, that is bringing your country down, losing loyal country friends, slagging off your military, increasing family cash outgoings, well done.................🥺

[ThreeCardMonte]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

By you, who cares, now you have a whopper of a liar, that is bringing your country down, losing loyal country friends, slagging off your military, increasing family cash outgoings, well done.................🥺

I provided proof of Biden’s consistent LIES.

 

You proved nothing but your opinion.

 

Big difference.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

I provided proof of Biden’s consistent LIES.

 

You proved nothing but your opinion.

 

Big difference.

AGAIN, Biden has retired, you just dodge Trump lying to get the big chair back and is STILL lying....😂

Was it yesterday your hero had a pop at the German Chancellor, what an idiot.........😂

[ThreeCardMonte]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

AGAIN, Biden has retired, you just dodge Trump lying to get the big chair back and is STILL lying....😂

Was it yesterday your hero had a pop at the German Chancellor, what an idiot.........😂

as usual, no proof.

[transam]

Just now, ThreeCardMonte said:

as usual, no proof.

To what, we ALL know Trump lies through his teeth, as for the Chancellor.....

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Common response from lying leftists when confronted about their lying:  "...we ALL know...".

 

This can be translated to: We all watch the same leftist liars on MSNBC, and we all regurgitate the same lies.  

[ThreeCardMonte]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

To what, we ALL know Trump lies through his teeth, as for the Chancellor.....

 

 

What were the so called lies?

And the proof

 I proved Bidens lies.

 

you have proven nothing except a conversation between the two leaders.

 

You have nothing.

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Common response from lying leftists when confronted about their lying:  "...we ALL know...".

 

This can be translated to: We all watch the same leftist liars on MSNBC, and we all regurgitate the same lies.  

Damn dude you are harsh but I still get more thumbs down than you