2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They are not being "forced" to leave as you claimed they were .

Netanyahu stated they can stay if they want to .

So your claims of genocide are incorrect

Same thing and well you know it. You’re being childish now.

Little food, no housing, job, water, shot at when fighting for a loaf, but hey, you can stay and die or move abroad. 

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They are not being "forced" to leave as you claimed they were .

Netanyahu stated they can stay if they want to .

So your claims of genocide are incorrect

Israel version of stay as described by Katz Defence Minister is establishing a big camp and Palestinians would go through "security screening'before entering and once inside would not be allowed to leave. That's a blueprint for crimes against humanity and genocide. 

1 minute ago, Chris.C said:

Can you do that, sounds like a fix.

 

<   Hover your cursor over my name on the left 

In the box in the bottom right is the option to put me on ignore

Click that 

Please do it and stop replying to me 

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Israel version of stay as described by Katz Defence Minister is establishing a big camp and Palestinians would go through "security screening'before entering and once inside would not be allowed to leave. That's a blueprint for crimes against humanity and genocide. 

 

   You are changing the subject .

Netanyahu did not say that he would force Palestinians to leave Gaza

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are changing the subject .

Netanyahu did not say that he would force Palestinians to leave Gaza

You are defending the indefensible. You know very well that Netanyahu has never condemned what his Nazi cabinet ministers have recently said.

 

Far-right ministers in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition have called for destroying Gaza City as part of a military operation to take full control of the Gaza Strip, a report said Wednesday.

The Haaretz daily, which cited unnamed sources, said that Netanyahu did not rule out the plan.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-ben-gvir-said-to-urge-razing-gaza-city-with-pm-not-objecting-idf-chief-balking/

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

No problem with killing the terrorists but why 60,000 civilians dead including 18,000 childrens. 

             I keep hearing this repetitive,  emotive, attempted tear jerking  b/s about "children"  it was 20,000 now its 18,000  and according to who exactly? 

             Anyway at the end of the day  its a war, people will die, we have to accept that,  and the death of a child is no more tragic than the death of an adult in real terms. 

           The longer this continues the more the killing  of both will continue. I know it sounds heartless but there is no way to stop it 

           The only solution is the annihilation of hamas and their supporters, end of story.  of course there will be collateral damage but  its unavoidable. 

          A bit like treating cancer,  healthy cells must also be destroyed to ensure complete destruction of all the malignant ones, for there to be  any chance of  full remission

          Desperate times call for desperate measures and its time to put our emotions behind us, the longer this continues the more will die, and half baked truces and ceasefires and other "solutions" only serve to prolong the agony  and will cause even more deaths

38 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

No problem with killing the terrorists but why 60,000 civilians dead including 18,000 childrens. 

And who provides those figures?

8 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

You are defending the indefensible. You know very well that Netanyahu has never condemned what his Nazi cabinet ministers have recently said.

 

 

Far-right ministers in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition have called for destroying Gaza City as part of a military operation to take full control of the Gaza Strip, a report said Wednesday.

The Haaretz daily, which cited unnamed sources, said that Netanyahu did not rule out the plan.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-ben-gvir-said-to-urge-razing-gaza-city-with-pm-not-objecting-idf-chief-balking/

let them have it they can then pay to redevelop what remains of the wasteland  no reason for the west to cough up again

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

The longer this continues the more the killing  of both will continue. I know it sounds heartless but there is no way to stop it 

           The only solution is the annihilation of hamas and their supporters, end of story.  of course there will be collateral damage but  its unavoidable.

The point you miss is that it all the Palestinians getting killed, not Israelis.

How many have died in Israel this year, how many IDF?
More Palestinian kids under 1 have been killed that IDF soldiers.

Are you real so blind to not see?

1 minute ago, DezLez said:

And who provides those figures?

answers on a post card, I'll give you a clue H-M-S

2 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

The point you miss is that it all the Palestinians getting killed, not Israelis.

How many have died in Israel this year, how many IDF?
More Palestinian kids under 1 have been killed that IDF soldiers.

Are you real so blind to not see?

I am not denying anything I just refuse to be emotionally blackmailed by hamas produced figures 

5 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

The point you miss is that it all the Palestinians getting killed, not Israelis.

How many have died in Israel this year, how many IDF?
More Palestinian kids under 1 have been killed that IDF soldiers.

Are you real so blind to not see?

Who is the one that is blindfolded?

Where are you getting those figures from?

34 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

Same thing and well you know it. You’re being childish now.

Little food, no housing, job, water, shot at when fighting for a loaf, but hey, you can stay and die or move abroad. 

I would not require any persuading to leave the hell hole neither would I consider breeding or attempting to raise a family in those conditions    

41 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

More Palestinian kids under 1 have been killed that IDF soldiers.

I would not expect it to be any different the IDF are well equipped and well trained 

how many hamas savages have been despatched to meet their 72 virgins so far?

1 hour ago, DezLez said:

And who provides those figures?

Good point. It should be higher than the figures reported by the Gaza authority according to a peer reviewed study by researchers from a leading health research university in UK. 

 

According to findings announced by the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) and published in The Lancet journal, there were an estimated 64,260 “traumatic injury deaths” in Gaza between October 7, 2023 and June 30, 2024. 

The  pics of emaciated children in Gaza are not AI-generated fakes.  The pics that have been circulated by mainstream Western media and reposted thousands of times on social media are real,  BUT- and it's a big   - these photos are often misleading.  They show medically vulnerable children who have underlying conditions that result in emaciation.  The pics themselves aren't proof of mass starvation in Gaza.

 

The photo that tops the OP in this thread comes from an article in The Guardian published on Aug. 2.

 

 

The caption credits Mahmoud Issa and Reuters, but doesn't give specific information about the woman and child portrayed. nor are they mentioned in the body of article.  The pic is there to illustrate The Guardian's claim Gazans are starving.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/02/gaza-famine-starvation-crisis-israel

 

I went to the Reuters' Web site and found the series of photos from which The Guardian pic had come.

 

 

The caption of the Reuters'  photo has a lot more info. It names the two people, says the boy suffers from cerebral palsy and says the photo was taken July 24.  There's no text story with the photo.  Reuters is a news agency and offers photos separate from its text articles.  Media outlets that don't have photographers of their own will often use a news agency photo.

https://www.reutersconnect.com/item/displaced-palestinian-mother-samah-matar-holds-her-malnourished-son-youssef-in-gaza-city/dGFnOnJldXRlcnMuY29tLDIwMjU6bmV3c21sX1JDMlpTRkE0TDgzUQ

 

The boy's emaciated appearance is mainly down to his cerebral palsy.  Children with cerebral palsy often have trouble swallowing.  The boy needs nutritional supplements and a feeding tube, neither of which is likely to be available in Gaza.  The shortage of supplies caused by the conflict has certainly aggravated the boy's fragile condition, but it doesn't prove their is mass starvation in Gaza.

 

Now to the really interesting part.  Reuters main competitor in the news agency business is the Associated Press of the U.S.  On July 26, two days after the Reuters pic went up, the AP displayed the following photo on its Web site:

 

 

https://apnews.com/photo-essay/gaza-palestinians-israel-starvation-famine-children-fac87ecccdbe1bcdf0d3067b74f14411

 

The sidebar to the AP photo reads: "Matar poses for a photo with her son Yousef, 6, who suffers from malnutrition and cerebral palsy, at a U.N.-run school in Gaza City, Saturday, July 26, 2025. In Gaza, malnutrition is often worsened by preexisting conditions and compounded by illnesses linked to inadequate health care and poor sanitation, largely the result of the ongoing war. (AP Photo/Jehad Alshrafi)"

 

Two different international news agencies, two different photographers, two different dates, but almost identical pics in substance.  The AP pic is darker and has a different backdrop, but otherwise very similar to Reuters, down to the gray garbage bag diaper. The prominent backbone is the focal point of both photos.   

 

I'm cynical enough to wonder if these might have been photo ops staged by Hamas to lend emotional impact to the claim of famine and starvation in Gaza.  Not fake photos, but definitely misleading.

 

Sometimes, however, the Hamas Media Office becomes disingenuous.  The photo below looks appropriately grim with yet another prominent backbone and a second child lying motionless off to the side.

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/568411/nz-is-prepared-to-take-further-action-over-the-gaza-crisis-here-are-5-options

 

But when the second kid in the photo looks up, his face doesn't show any signs of starvation.  

 

 

And the real kicker.  The pic below appeared in Al-Jazeera. It's the same photographer, day and news agency as above.

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/26/israel-says-its-distributing-aid-in-gaza-so-why-are-people-starving

 

The brothers show no visible signs of malnutrition and are clothed.  So why is Yazan naked and deathly thin?  He's naked because it's a photo op to show off this thinness.  He's so thin because of an (and I'll spell it out) U-N-D-E-R-L-Y-I-N-G  M-E-D-I-C-A-L  C-O-N-D-I-T-I-O-N.  If the family were suffering from starvation, wouldn't the brothers be thin as well?

 

More revelations still to come.

 

6 hours ago, Packer said:

Time to dismantle Israel as a country, create one Palestine, the sale of IDF military hardware can fund the emigration of Israelis (the ones not arrested on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity) if they so wish, UN boots on the ground and democratic elections within 5-10 years. 🙂

 

We understood you don't like Israel the first four times you wrote the above. Not that it will make any difference to you, but calls for the dismantling of the state of Israel are considered to be antisemitic under both the working definition of the The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism)  and the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism (https://jerusalemdeclaration.org/).

 

Your earlier posts:

 

On 4/28/2025 at 12:55 PM, Packer said:

One state solution. 

 

All Israeli land become the official country of Palestine, all IDF military hardware is sold and the funds used to rebuild Gaza etc, anybody or families wishing to relocate will be relocated and settled in UN nations, UN boots on the ground, democratic elections, timeframe 10 years. 

 

Israel, and Israeli settlement really is an embarrassing blight on the so called civilized world. 

 

On 7/7/2025 at 10:24 AM, Packer said:

Create one big Palestinian state in place of Israel.

Israeli government and armed forces completely disbanded. 

Any Israeli passport holders are offered new lives in Western countries if they so wish.

All Israeli military hardware is sold to fund it.

Democratic elections with UN troops on the ground.

Timeframe: 10 years. 

 

 

On 7/17/2025 at 3:11 AM, Packer said:

Don't remove the illegal Jew settlers.

 

Remove Israel. Any Israeli citizen can choose to be relocated to chosen Western countries with a new passport. The selling of IDF hardware should cover a lot. Try the head honchos for crimes against humanity in the Hague. UN boots on the ground. Democratic elections in the new official Palestinian state within 10 years. 🙂

 

On 7/29/2025 at 3:57 AM, Packer said:

 

Simply set up the state of Palestine in place of Israel, all current Israelis can stay in their homes in the new state of Palestine, or emigrate to western countries, funded by the sale of all IDF military hardware, UN boots on the ground, democratic elections, timeframe 5-10 yeas. 🙂

 

But, the Jews do have a lust for occupation and genocide. 😞 

 

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Good point. It should be higher than the figures reported by the Gaza authority according to a peer reviewed study by researchers from a leading health research university in UK. 

 

 

According to findings announced by the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) and published in The Lancet journal, there were an estimated 64,260 “traumatic injury deaths” in Gaza between October 7, 2023 and June 30, 2024. 

so pure guess work then

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

The  pics of emaciated children in Gaza are not AI-generated fakes.  The pics that have been circulated by mainstream Western media and reposted thousands of times on social media are real,  BUT- and it's a big   - these photos are often misleading.  They show medically vulnerable children who have underlying conditions that result in emaciation.  The pics themselves aren't proof of mass starvation in Gaza.

 

The photo that tops the OP in this thread comes from an article in The Guardian published on Aug. 2.

 

 

The caption credits Mahmoud Issa and Reuters, but doesn't give specific information about the woman and child portrayed. nor are they mentioned in the body of article.  The pic is there to illustrate The Guardian's claim Gazans are starving.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/02/gaza-famine-starvation-crisis-israel

 

I went to the Reuters' Web site and found the series of photos from which The Guardian pic had come.

 

 

The caption of the Reuters'  photo has a lot more info. It names the two people, says the boy suffers from cerebral palsy and says the photo was taken July 24.  There's no text story with the photo.  Reuters is a news agency and offers photos separate from its text articles.  Media outlets that don't have photographers of their own will often use a news agency photo.

https://www.reutersconnect.com/item/displaced-palestinian-mother-samah-matar-holds-her-malnourished-son-youssef-in-gaza-city/dGFnOnJldXRlcnMuY29tLDIwMjU6bmV3c21sX1JDMlpTRkE0TDgzUQ

 

The boy's emaciated appearance is mainly down to his cerebral palsy.  Children with cerebral palsy often have trouble swallowing.  The boy needs nutritional supplements and a feeding tube, neither of which is likely to be available in Gaza.  The shortage of supplies caused by the conflict has certainly aggravated the boy's fragile condition, but it doesn't prove their is mass starvation in Gaza.

 

Now to the really interesting part.  Reuters main competitor in the news agency business is the Associated Press of the U.S.  On July 26, two days after the Reuters pic went up, the AP displayed the following photo on its Web site:

 

 

https://apnews.com/photo-essay/gaza-palestinians-israel-starvation-famine-children-fac87ecccdbe1bcdf0d3067b74f14411

 

The sidebar to the AP photo reads: "Matar poses for a photo with her son Yousef, 6, who suffers from malnutrition and cerebral palsy, at a U.N.-run school in Gaza City, Saturday, July 26, 2025. In Gaza, malnutrition is often worsened by preexisting conditions and compounded by illnesses linked to inadequate health care and poor sanitation, largely the result of the ongoing war. (AP Photo/Jehad Alshrafi)"

 

Two different international news agencies, two different photographers, two different dates, but almost identical pics in substance.  The AP pic is darker and has a different backdrop, but otherwise very similar to Reuters, down to the gray garbage bag diaper. The prominent backbone is the focal point of both photos.   

 

I'm cynical enough to wonder if these might have been photo ops staged by Hamas to lend emotional impact to the claim of famine and starvation in Gaza.  Not fake photos, but definitely misleading.

 

Sometimes, however, the Hamas Media Office becomes disingenuous.  The photo below looks appropriately grim with yet another prominent backbone and a second child lying motionless off to the side.

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/568411/nz-is-prepared-to-take-further-action-over-the-gaza-crisis-here-are-5-options

 

But when the second kid in the photo looks up, his face doesn't show any signs of starvation.  

 

 

And the real kicker.  The pic below appeared in Al-Jazeera. It's the same photographer, day and news agency as above.

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/26/israel-says-its-distributing-aid-in-gaza-so-why-are-people-starving

 

The brothers show no visible signs of malnutrition and are clothed.  So why is Yazan naked and deathly thin?  He's naked because it's a photo op to show off this thinness.  He's so thin because of an (and I'll spell it out) U-N-D-E-R-L-Y-I-N-G  M-E-D-I-C-A-L  C-O-N-D-I-T-I-O-N.  If the family were suffering from starvation, wouldn't the brothers be thin as well?

 

More revelations still to come.

well spotted   good work and the average smart phone these days has image  manipulating software that can make the ugliest women doo-able  there's a lot of fake news about

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

We understood you don't like Israel the first four times you wrote the above. Not that it will make any difference to you, but calls for the dismantling of the state of Israel are considered to be antisemitic under both the working definition of the The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism)  and the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism (https://jerusalemdeclaration.org/).

 

Your earlier posts:

Thank you for your interest in my posts. 🙂

 

 

Create one big Palestinian state in place of Israel.

Israeli government and armed forces completely disbanded. 

Any Israeli passport holders are offered new lives in Western countries if they so wish.

All Israeli military hardware is sold to fund it.

Democratic elections with UN troops on the ground.

Timeframe: 10 years. 

 

Sure would be better for humanity, wouldn't it. 🙂 

On 8/2/2025 at 11:33 AM, bannork said:

Italy to begin air drops of aid into Gaza, minister says

After France and Spain, Italy said Friday (August 1) it would begin air drops over Gaza, which UN-backed experts say is slipping into famine.

 

The first drops could come on August 9, Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani said. "I have given the green light to a mission involving Army and Air Force assets for the transport and airdrop of basic necessities to civilians in Gaza, who have been severely affected by the ongoing conflict," he added in a statement.

 

FRANCE 24's Seema Gupta tells us more

 

Italy to begin air drops of aid into Gaza, minister says | Watch

anyone want to bet whether or not these "necessities" include toothbrushes, toilet paper and condoms? After all, it's coming from Europe. 🤠

32 minutes ago, Packer said:

Thank you for your interest in my posts. 🙂

 

 

Create one big Palestinian state in place of Israel.

Israeli government and armed forces completely disbanded. 

Any Israeli passport holders are offered new lives in Western countries if they so wish.

All Israeli military hardware is sold to fund it.

Democratic elections with UN troops on the ground.

Timeframe: 10 years. 

 

Sure would be better for humanity, wouldn't it. 🙂 

Yes, eliminate the only functioning democracy in the area. The only country that protects womens' rights. The only country where LGBT people are safe.  Yeah, who needs a country like that, when you can have yet another misogynistic, bigoted kleptocracy?

 

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

The  pics of emaciated children in Gaza are not AI-generated fakes.  The pics that have been circulated by mainstream Western media and reposted thousands of times on social media are real,  BUT- and it's a big   - these photos are often misleading.  They show medically vulnerable children who have underlying conditions that result in emaciation.  The pics themselves aren't proof of mass starvation in Gaza.

 

The photo that tops the OP in this thread comes from an article in The Guardian published on Aug. 2.

 

 

The caption credits Mahmoud Issa and Reuters, but doesn't give specific information about the woman and child portrayed. nor are they mentioned in the body of article.  The pic is there to illustrate The Guardian's claim Gazans are starving.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/02/gaza-famine-starvation-crisis-israel

 

I went to the Reuters' Web site and found the series of photos from which The Guardian pic had come.

 

 

The caption of the Reuters'  photo has a lot more info. It names the two people, says the boy suffers from cerebral palsy and says the photo was taken July 24.  There's no text story with the photo.  Reuters is a news agency and offers photos separate from its text articles.  Media outlets that don't have photographers of their own will often use a news agency photo.

https://www.reutersconnect.com/item/displaced-palestinian-mother-samah-matar-holds-her-malnourished-son-youssef-in-gaza-city/dGFnOnJldXRlcnMuY29tLDIwMjU6bmV3c21sX1JDMlpTRkE0TDgzUQ

 

The boy's emaciated appearance is mainly down to his cerebral palsy.  Children with cerebral palsy often have trouble swallowing.  The boy needs nutritional supplements and a feeding tube, neither of which is likely to be available in Gaza.  The shortage of supplies caused by the conflict has certainly aggravated the boy's fragile condition, but it doesn't prove their is mass starvation in Gaza.

 

Now to the really interesting part.  Reuters main competitor in the news agency business is the Associated Press of the U.S.  On July 26, two days after the Reuters pic went up, the AP displayed the following photo on its Web site:

 

 

https://apnews.com/photo-essay/gaza-palestinians-israel-starvation-famine-children-fac87ecccdbe1bcdf0d3067b74f14411

 

The sidebar to the AP photo reads: "Matar poses for a photo with her son Yousef, 6, who suffers from malnutrition and cerebral palsy, at a U.N.-run school in Gaza City, Saturday, July 26, 2025. In Gaza, malnutrition is often worsened by preexisting conditions and compounded by illnesses linked to inadequate health care and poor sanitation, largely the result of the ongoing war. (AP Photo/Jehad Alshrafi)"

 

Two different international news agencies, two different photographers, two different dates, but almost identical pics in substance.  The AP pic is darker and has a different backdrop, but otherwise very similar to Reuters, down to the gray garbage bag diaper. The prominent backbone is the focal point of both photos.   

 

I'm cynical enough to wonder if these might have been photo ops staged by Hamas to lend emotional impact to the claim of famine and starvation in Gaza.  Not fake photos, but definitely misleading.

 

Sometimes, however, the Hamas Media Office becomes disingenuous.  The photo below looks appropriately grim with yet another prominent backbone and a second child lying motionless off to the side.

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/568411/nz-is-prepared-to-take-further-action-over-the-gaza-crisis-here-are-5-options

 

But when the second kid in the photo looks up, his face doesn't show any signs of starvation.  

 

 

And the real kicker.  The pic below appeared in Al-Jazeera. It's the same photographer, day and news agency as above.

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/26/israel-says-its-distributing-aid-in-gaza-so-why-are-people-starving

 

The brothers show no visible signs of malnutrition and are clothed.  So why is Yazan naked and deathly thin?  He's naked because it's a photo op to show off this thinness.  He's so thin because of an (and I'll spell it out) U-N-D-E-R-L-Y-I-N-G  M-E-D-I-C-A-L  C-O-N-D-I-T-I-O-N.  If the family were suffering from starvation, wouldn't the brothers be thin as well?

 

More revelations still to come.

One German journalist spoke a very controversial truth, and was excoriated for it by the UN's resident mouthpiece.  Tobias Hutch noted that more than 40% of marriages in Palestinian areas are between close relatives- cousins to be precise. This leads to increases in birth defects that easily show up as looking like malnutrition to untrained and uncurious eyes.  

 

Now consider that this has been happening for generations and it is no wonder that the situation seems so grim.

11 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, eliminate the only functioning democracy in the area. The only country that protects womens' rights. The only country where LGBT people are safe.  Yeah, who needs a country like that, when you can have yet another misogynistic, bigoted kleptocracy?

 

You use false dichotomies, which are logically flawed and shut down meaningful discussion.  

 

  Either support Israel uncritically, or you're calling for its elimination.  

  Either support this country as it is, or you're siding with regimes that oppress women.  

  Either accept this state completely or accept homophobic governance elsewhere.

  Either support the current regime or embrace corrupt authoritarianism.   

 

How can Israel be called a democracy if it systematically oppresses a segment of the population under its control?

 

Military occupation in the West Bank

Illegal settlements in violation of international law

Different legal systems for Israelis and Palestinians in the same territory

A 17-year blockade on Gaza, creating a humanitarian crisis

Administrative detention without trial for Palestinians

Restrictive laws targeting Arab citizens of Israel

 

These are not features of a liberal democracy, but of a two-tiered system where basic rights and protections are not afforded equally. A country cannot be “the only democracy in the region” if that democracy does not apply to everyone under its rule.

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

One German journalist spoke a very controversial truth, and was excoriated for it by the UN's resident mouthpiece.  Tobias Hutch noted that more than 40% of marriages in Palestinian areas are between close relatives- cousins to be precise. This leads to increases in birth defects that easily show up as looking like malnutrition to untrained and uncurious eyes.  

 

Now consider that this has been happening for generations and it is no wonder that the situation seems so grim.

Oxfam, Save the Children, and over 100 more are not the untrained eye.

Unbelievable, you Jews actually are sounding like what the Nazis said about the master race, what irony.

xxx

59 minutes ago, Packer said:

Thank you for your interest in my posts. 🙂

You're welcome.  It's always wise to remain vigilant and you certainly deserve watching.  Never again is now!

 

I'm also reminded of a quote by one of my favorite villains, Auric Goldfinger in Ian Fleming's  Goldfinger:

"Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action.'" 

 

Five times and it has become an obsession,

 

59 minutes ago, Packer said:

Sure would be better for humanity, wouldn't it. 🙂 

 

No, it would be a great loss for humanity.  The state of Israel gives the world's Jews the best chance of survival should any country or group of countries try to mount a repeat performance of the Holocaust.  

2 hours ago, Chris.C said:

Oxfam, Save the Children, and over 100 more are not the untrained eye.

Unbelievable, you Jews actually are sounding like what the Nazis said about the master race, what irony.

Those groups are not doctors, and depend on hyped claims to drive donations. 

 

As I said, a lot of what the Gazans are suffering is self inflicted. Generations of marrying your family members will create weak, sick, and damaged children.   

I am waiting to see photos of young Gazan men looking like they have missed any meals.  But somehow, all the images that come out show healthy looking parents and suffering kids.  

10 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

We understood you don't like Israel the first four times you wrote the above. Not that it will make any difference to you, but calls for the dismantling of the state of Israel are considered to be antisemitic under both the working definition of the The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism)  and the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism (https://jerusalemdeclaration.org/).

 

Your earlier posts:

 

Amazing. (And he certainly has a thing for “UN boots on the ground”!) The thing is: As brutal (and criminal) as the Israeli assault on Gaza is, nearly every nation on the planet has engaged in the same, often more than once: Americans in Vietnam, Russians in Ukraine, Chinese in Tibet, Japanese in China, Germans in Poland, Turks in Armenia, Brits and French in various colonial wars, etc. etc. Has anyone suggested entirely evicting these war criminal nations from their homes?

 

As it turns out, and this is what antisemites like the person you’re responding to cannot acknowledge: Jewish people are in fact Homo sapiens like the rest of us, and as such they are capable of the same brutality. And ultimately they are just as responsible as all other nations (meaning “ethnic” groups), no more and no less, for the maintenance of civility across the globe. His statement that “Jews do have a lust for occupation and genocide” can be applied to any nation on earth. We are all the same.

 

7 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Those groups are not doctors, and depend on hyped claims to drive donations. 

It's incredible how you and a couple of others are defending Israel when the proof of starvation is there. I've decided that you'll never change your defense, even if Israel drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza.

To suggest the 100+ Aid agencies are not doctors is bizarre, so I researched a few. 

 

 

MedGlobal 

Founded in 2017 by a team of doctors, nurses, and global health experts 

Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP) 

  A UK-based medical charity founded by Dr. Ang Swee Chai and others; its leadership includes practising doctors like Dr. Ang and Sir Terence English

Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders (MSF) 

International medical humanitarian NGO whose staff include tens of thousands of doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals working in conflict and crisis zones

Pediatricians for Palestine 

Obviously formed by pediatricians advocating and working in support of children's health

Palestinian American Medical Association (PAMA) 

As a medical association, it is inherently composed of doctors

7 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

As I said, a lot of what the Gazans are suffering is self inflicted. Generations of marrying your family members will create weak, sick, and damaged children.   

This kind of statement, implying that an entire population's suffering is due to some inherent biological flaw, or cultural backwardness, is not only scientifically dubious but morally repugnant. It echoes the same dehumanizing logic the Nazis used to justify the persecution and extermination of Jews, Romani people, and others they deemed “genetically inferior” or “degenerate.”