5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, this fund also included Trump? Is that what you're saying?

 

I'm asking where are trump's victims? 

Exactly, thats what is being withheld. We all are asking and now it has been revealed they have already been edited out of the evidence, which they will never reveal!

Trumps attorney general Bondi has clearly stated and is on record of saying in the past that Maxwell is a child trafficker and belongs in gaol and deserves the 20 year sentence she received.Why the change of heart?

The Supreme Court will decide SEP 29 whether to take Ms. Maxwell's case.

 

If so, and she wins -- which is by no means certain -- her case gets tossed and she is out free & clear. Everything else smacks of quid pro quo and is soap opera.

 

Again, the Supreme Court appeal is procedural and has nothing to do with the evidence that led to her conviction.

18 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

You and I hardly ever agree on political issues, but you raise a fair point here. The thumbs down are unwarranted and I believe merely unthinking trolls getting their kicks.

I really don't pay attention to the emojis too much. 

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I really don't pay attention to the emojis too much. 

The thumbs down were only fun when it was disclosed who posted them.

15 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, this fund also included Trump? Is that what you're saying?

 

I'm asking where are trump's victims?

Yeah you ask a simple question...have you read anything about the Epstein death in prison and the surrounding strange details concerning his "suicide"?  Big money and safety many times takes away a victim's wanting legal ramifications for their attacker IMHO anyway from what I have seen and read over the years.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly informed Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche that President Donald Trump never acted inappropriately towards her.

 

Of course he didn't act inappropriate towards her, because she is too old for him. He liked the young ones, as he has declared himself publically. 

7 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

The Supreme Court will decide SEP 29 whether to take Ms. Maxwell's case.

 

If so, and she wins -- which is by no means certain -- her case gets tossed and she is out free & clear. Everything else smacks of quid pro quo and is soap opera.

 

Again, the Supreme Court appeal is procedural and has nothing to do with the evidence that led to her conviction.

Especially THIS Supreme Court which is seemingly totally under DJT control.  That is why he got 3 new judges there already and possibly will have another soon.  This is MHO anyway with all the decisions they have made concerning Trump's actions.

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

Of course he didn't act inappropriate towards her, because she is too old for him. He liked the young ones, as he has declared himself publically. 

she has chosen her words well.

3 minutes ago, Artisi said:

she has chosen her words well.

totall agree, she knows enough about certain people and I am sure has made a promise about keeping quiet or not depending on her future...after all she doesn't especially like "suicide".

11 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

12 hours ago, sharot724 said:

The Jeffrey Epstein Victims' Fund was established to compensate individuals who were sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein. The fund, which was created from Epstein's estate, paid out over $121 million to more than 135 people. The administrator of the fund, Jordana Feldman, aimed to provide a confidential and non-adversarial process for victims to come forward and receive compensation. 

So, this fund also included Trump? Is that what you're saying?

 

I'm asking where are trump's victims?

 

Trump's victims were an Epstein victim, as it happened on Epstein's property.

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern,

And what would have been concerning to a pedophile and his accomplice? 

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

What happened to "The walls are closing in"  Now, that was a favorite for a long time. 

 

I haven't followed all this Epstein stuff besides reading headlines. But, if Trump did what AN posters think he did then where are the victims? You don't think the supposed victims will be looking for a payday?

Yes, I can see why something as "harmless" as pedophilia wouldn't bother a MAGAnista....well, unless it concerns Hillary and the basement of a basement-less pizza restaurant in DC.

 

No doubt I'm dead wrong, but I suspect females who were abused by grown men and powerful men might be a bit hesitant to have it all dragged through the mud again. I note that one prominent victim who did come forward, Virginia Giuffre, ending up taking her own life.

 

Can you imagine such abuse might leave scars? No, I guess not. MAGANistas are REAL men, as "manly" as their obese crybaby messiah.

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

Per the ABC News quote above:

 

"... telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern,"

 

I would think that is referring to a third person.

Yea, works for me.

 

Someone convicted of both perjury and aiding and abetting pedophilia is the "honest person" Diogenes sought while carrying his lantern. Only Gospel comes out of her mouth. Absolutely. Clearly she has nothing to gain from being less than truthful.

 

/sarc

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

Per the ABC News quote above:

 

"... telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern,"

 

Maxwell's ethics are well documented in the verdict she received, so it is obvious that was not a concern for her during her time with Epstein, was a concern for the courts.

2 hours ago, gargamon said:

Nothing burger. She's a convicted perjurer... Whatever lies she needs to tell for her get out of jail free card. 

Is she though?

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Maxwell stated Trump’s actions were never concerning

Well of course not, Maxwell was scouting for and trafficking minors for sex.

 

We already know that Maxwell has absolutely no concern for the behaviour of rich and powerful men with children.

 

The only real question is, how far down into the depths of depravity would Maxwell have to descend before she came across anything that would concern her.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Good to hear it clarified once and for all.

 

I always knew Trump wasn't involved. 

 

Stick with that Jonny.

 

 

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, this fund also included Trump? Is that what you're saying?

 

I'm asking where are trump's victims?

Here:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/316386913/Doe-V-Donald-Trump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Note that the quote:

 

"... telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern,"

 

is from the ABC News story and not in the OP version.

 

And the word 'clears' as used in the topic heading does not appear in the linked ABCNews story.

 

As for the Supreme Court the case has to do with how federal Non prosecutorial agreements (NPA's) are handled in the different appellate circuits and has really nothing to do with how Trump or anyone else views the conviction as to the charges or evidence allowed at trial.

 

And the DoJ has opposed to the Supreme Court taking the case.

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

 

 

It does not refer to any improper behavior by Mr. Trump that might have occurred while not in Ms. Maxell's presence.

 

Ah, the old Schrödinger cat's theorem. 

4 hours ago, Tug said:

Quell surprise 😲 did anyone think for a moment a prisoner at the mercy of trump who holds the key to get herself freedom would say otherwise lmao 😂 I think most folks know better.

En Francais 'Quelle surprise' but, that aside, Ghislaine should not have received such a lengthy sentence. She is a woman carrying the can for Epstein, and for many other men.

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, this fund also included Trump? Is that what you're saying?

 

I'm asking where are trump's victims?

they may feel vindicated somewhat in the amount of money they got paid.  They also are older than those days, have seen and read about the "suicides of people with knowledge of the rich and powerful.  IMHO of course since I can only speculate based on watching el presidente in those wild party days with Epstein et al.

I cannot agree with the assertion of Ghislane Maxwell being the first convicted sex offender to be given such cushy treatment.

 

Conviction and sentencing (2008–2011)

On June 30, 2008, after Epstein pleaded guilty to a state charge of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18,^[135] he was sentenced to eighteen months in prison. While most convicted sex offenders in Florida are sent to state prison, Epstein was instead housed in a private wing of the Palm Beach County Stockade and, according to the sheriff's office, was, after 3+1⁄2 months, allowed to leave the jail on "work release" for up to twelve hours a day, six days a week. This contravened the sheriff's own policies requiring a maximum remaining sentence of ten months and making sex offenders ineligible for the privilege. He was allowed to come and go outside of specified release hours.^[119]

Epstein's cell door was left unlocked, and he had access to the attorney room where a television was installed for him, before he was moved to the Stockade's previously unstaffed infirmary. He worked at the office of a foundation he had created shortly before reporting to jail; he dissolved it after he had served his time. The Sheriff's Office received $128,000 from Epstein's non-profit to pay for the costs of extra services being provided during his work release. His office was monitored by "permit deputies" whose overtime was paid by Epstein. They were required to wear suits, and checked in "welcomed guests" at the "front desk". Later the Sheriff's Office said these guest logs were destroyed per the department's "records retention" rules, although the Stockade visitor logs were not.^[136] Epstein was allowed to use his own driver to drive him between jail and his office and other appointments.^[119][136]

Epstein pictured in 2013, photographed for the sex offender registry

Epstein served almost 13 months before being released on July 22, 2009, for a year of probation on house arrest until August 2010.^{[137][138][139]} While on probation, he was allowed numerous trips on his corporate jet to his residences in Manhattan and the U.S. Virgin Islands. He was allowed long shopping trips and walks around Palm Beach "for exercise".^[119] After a contested hearing in January 2011, and an appeal, he stayed registered in New York State as a "level three" (high risk of repeat offense) sex offender, a lifelong designation.^[140][141] At that hearing, the Manhattan assistant district attorney, Jennifer Gaffney, argued unsuccessfully that the level should be reduced to a low-risk "level one" and was chided by the judge.^[142] Despite opposition from Epstein's lawyer that he had a "main" home in the U.S. Virgin Islands, the judge confirmed he personally must check in with the New York Police Department every 90 days. Though Epstein had been a level-three registered sex offender in New York since 2010, the New York Police Department never enforced the 90-day regulation, though non-compliance is a felony.^[133]

 

Jeffrey Epstein - Wikipedia

19 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

En Francais 'Quelle surprise' but, that aside, Ghislaine should not have received such a lengthy sentence. She is a woman carrying the can for Epstein, and for many other men.

She’s carrying the can for the crimes she herself committed.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

She’s carrying the can for the crimes she herself committed.

Your opinion, not mine.

5 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

"During her nine hours speaking with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche last month, Ghislaine Maxwell said nothing during the interview that would be harmful to President Donald Trump, telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern, according to sources familiar with what Maxwell said."

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-considers-releasing-transcripts-doj-interview-ghislaine/story?id=124383957

 

How can you take the word of a person who's bereft of any moral compass as an endorsement of a third party's behaviour, be it good or otherwise? At the very least she has facilitated acts of moral depravity. So how can her judgement of things "that would have caused concern" be taken as good judgement when it is possible that she turned a blind eye to misbehaviour?

 

This is not about getting Trump. Given the benefit of doubt, he's only guilty of poor judgment and being a crass oaf. Nothing indictable here at all, but if his detractors persist in trying to join dots that don't exist, he needs a better character witness than Maxwell. Now that may be difficult.

13 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Your opinion, not mine.

No, not my opinion.

 

That’s the opinion of the jury in her criminal trial, upheld by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York.

 

I suggest you find a less disgusting hill to die on:

 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-sentenced-20-years-prison-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexually-abuse

5 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

How can you take the word of a person who's bereft of any moral compass as an endorsement of a third party's behaviour, be it good or otherwise? At the very least she has facilitated acts of moral depravity. So how can her judgement of things "that would have caused concern" be taken as good judgement when it is possible that she turned a blind eye to misbehaviour?

 

This is not about getting Trump. Given the benefit of doubt, he's only guilty of poor judgment and being a crass oaf. Nothing indictable here at all, but if his detractors persist in trying to join dots that don't exist, he needs a better character witness than Maxwell. Now that may be difficult.

He can prove his detractor wrong by keeping his promise to release the Epstein files.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, not my opinion.

 

That’s the opinion of the jury in her criminal trial, upheld by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York.

 

I suggest you find a less disgusting hill to die on:

 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-sentenced-20-years-prison-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexually-abuse

As I said, your opinion, not mine.