11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

If that were true, why didn't he release the files? He had plenty of opportunity.

 

 

Agreed. So why didn't Biden do it?

 

More than a little fishy.

 

 

The most likely reason is more about who Epstein worked for, and who financed his business with many of the most powerful people in the world. Politicians, royals, diplomats and also some of the richest people on earth. 

 

There are more questions than answers, but still quite a few leads that have not been answered yet.

 

Maxwell's father is a good start.

9 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Actually it was HM the former Queen who helped Andrew to come up with a reported 12 million pounds extorted by Giuffre. At the time there was a fake picture doing the rounds of Andrew with his left arm around Giuffre's waist. The problem with the picture was that Andrew's left arm would have to have been twice as long as his right arm  order to encircle Giuffre's waist, a fact mysteriously ignored by the MSM.

 

What we know for sure is that Virginia Giuffre took legal action to sue Alan Dershowitz even though Giuffre knew perfectly well that she never had sex with Dershowitz. Luckily Dershowitz could prove it never happened, with evidence, so Giuffre could not win that case. 

 

Given that she sued Dershowitz, knowing full well she never had sex with him, the odds of her having sued Prince Andrew, knowing full well she never had sex with him, are very high. Now, unfortunately Prince Andrew did not have evidence to prove it never happened, which is incredibly difficult to do, and so he chose to settle and paid Giuffre, many many millions of pouinds. Which was her whole reason for suing.

 

In fact all the "survivors" went on a suing rampage, they even sued the FBI. And unsurprisingly the "survivors" were again and again shown to be lying. Sara Ransome for instance was the origin of the rumour that Epstein filmed the sexual encounters for blackmail. However, she later admitted in her autobiography that this claim was untrue.

 

Basically what happened after the Epstein arrest was that his estate was put in a trust fund that was used to pay out those who claimed to be "survivors". As you can imagine the number of surviviors kept growing every year, even in 2019 they came out of the woodworks.. 

 

These "survivors" sued and milked what happened to the extreme, and even lies were part of their arsenal. Especially with Giuffre, a  documented whore.

The truth about Bill Clinton’s cozy friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and his ‘lovely girls’ as House subpoenas testimony

https://nypost.com/2025/08/06/us-news/the-truth-about-bill-clintons-cozy-friendship-with-jeffrey-epstein-and-his-lovely-girls/

 

Bill Clinton is a pervert and had sex with "that woman" in the White House on Easter Sunday. Billy absolutely knew about Epstein's love of the underage girls. And old Billy boy wanted in. I hope the truth comes out in the House testimony. 

5 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Actually it was HM the former Queen who helped Andrew to come up with a reported 12 million pounds extorted by Giuffre. At the time there was a fake picture doing the rounds of Andrew with his left arm around Giuffre's waist. The problem with the picture was that Andrew's left arm would have to have been twice as long as his right arm  order to encircle Giuffre's waist, a fact mysteriously ignored by the MSM.

 

So let me get this right.......the British establishment, renowned for its protection of the Royal family.......happily blew 12 million, the Queen basically disowned her son, and his Prince Andrew's own brother will have nothing to do with him.

 

 

                                     .........all because of a fake photo that was already in the public domain........

 

 

Give your head a wobble.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

What we know for sure is that Virginia Giuffre took legal action to sue Alan Dershowitz even though Giuffre knew perfectly well that she never had sex with Dershowitz. Luckily Dershowitz could prove it never happened, with evidence, so Giuffre could not win that case. 

 

Given that she sued Dershowitz, knowing full well she never had sex with him, the odds of her having sued Prince Andrew, knowing full well she never had sex with him, are very high. Now, unfortunately Prince Andrew did not have evidence to prove it never happened, which is incredibly difficult to do, and so he chose to settle and paid Giuffre, many many millions of pouinds. Which was her whole reason for suing.

 

In fact all the "survivors" went on a suing rampage, they even sued the FBI. And unsurprisingly the "survivors" were again and again shown to be lying. Sara Ransome for instance was the origin of the rumour that Epstein filmed the sexual encounters for blackmail. However, she later admitted her autobiography that this claim was untrue.

 

Basically what happened after the Epstein arrest was that his estate was put in a trust fund that was used to pay out those who claimed to be "survivors". As you can imagine the number of surviviors kept growing every year, even in 2019 they came out of the woodworks.. 

 

These "survivors" sued and milked what happened to the extreme, and even lies were part of their arsenal. Especially with Giuffre, a  documented whore.

Well said.

16 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

So let me get this right.......the British establishment, renowned for its protection of the Royal family.......happily blew 12 million, the Queen basically disowned her son, and his Prince Andrew's own brother will have nothing to do with him.

 

 

                                     .........all because of a fake photo that was already in the public domain........

 

 

Give you head a wobble.

 

Obviously not, they wanted to make the embarassing legal case go away as soon as possible, because their lawyers advised them that since Prince Andrew did not have evidence that he could not have had sex with Giuffre, the way Dershowitz had, there was a real likelihood he could lose the case even if he never slept with Giuffre, simply because he didn't have the evidence that he didn't sleep with her. Faced with an embarassment of that magnitude they rather paid the millions to Giuffre, who promptly bought a nice villa in Australia with the cash.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Obviously not, they wanted to make the embarassing legal case go away as soon as possible, because their lawyers advised them that since Prince Andrew did not have evidence that he could not have had sex with Giuffre, the way Dershowitz had, there was a real likelihood he could lose the case even if he never slept with Giuffre, simply because he didn't have the evidence that he didn't sleep with her. Faced with an embarassment of that magnitude they rather paid the millions to Giuffre, who promptly bought a nice villa in Austalia with the cash.

 

 

Utter rubbish........so you really believe that a random woman can fake a photo, claim she slept with a member of the Royal family.....and on the grounds that the member of the Royal family can't prove they didn't have sex with them.....the Queen writes a cheque for 12 million.........utter dross

37 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

If you take an objective lense, clearly having sex with children or minors would give anyone cause for concern. So clearly that never happened.

It would give me and any normal person cause for concern, but Maxwell isn’t a normal person, she’s a convicted trafficker of sex trafficker of minors and a convicted conspirator for adults engaging in sex with minors.

 

Of course it also might not bother those among us willing to defend the cover up of evidence of such heinous crimes.

 

10 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

So let me get this right.......the British establishment, renowned for its protection of the Royal family.......happily blew 12 million, the Queen basically disowned her son, and his Prince Andrew's own brother will have nothing to do with him.

 

 

                                     .........all because of a fake photo that was already in the public domain........

 

 

Give you head a wobble.

Wrong.

It was specifically the Queen, not the 'British Estabishment' to use your words, who financed the pay-off, and she never disowned Andrew. 

Best to say nothing if you have nothing accurate to say.

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

So let me get this right.......the British establishment, renowned for its protection of the Royal family.......happily blew 12 million, the Queen basically disowned her son, and his Prince Andrew's own brother will have nothing to do with him.

 

 

                                     .........all because of a fake photo that was already in the public domain........

 

 

Give you head a wobble.

Replied separately.

Just now, Thingamabob said:

Wrong.

It was specifically the Queen, not the 'British Estabishment' to use your words, who financed the pay-off, and she never disowned Andrew. 

Best to say nothingif you have nothing accurate to say.

 

 

Very weak attempt to deflect from the central issue.............

 

..........nothing like this happens just because of a fake photo already in the public domain. 

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

So you're going to beat this dead horse that Trump is a pedophile and is not releasing the Epstein files because he'd incriminate himself for infinity. 

 

Up to you. But of course now we have eye witness evidence that it never happened. Like most conspiracy theorists you'll have a lot of company, but reason and truth won't be keeping you company.

It’s far from a dead horse.

 

The coverup is only making matters worse for Trump.

 

And no we do not have eyewitness account that ‘it never happened’.

8 hours ago, JAG said:

In fairness, when she was around him, his umh, interests and enthusiasms, were probably directed elsewhere!

Exactly. Why would one be engaging in inappropriate practices with little girls in front of a big girl. And yes she probably was no match to the younger ones. 

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Very weak attempt to deflect from the central issue.............

 

..........nothing like this happens just because of a fake photo already in the public domain. 

Get a grip. The fake 'photo was only part of the story, obviously.

26 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

If that were true, why didn't he release the files? He had plenty of opportunity.

 

 

Agreed. So why didn't Biden do it?

 

More than a little fishy.

 

 

I have no idea.

 

But let me ask you the same question I have asked others.

 

Trump promised to release the Epstein files.

 

Do you agree he should now release the Epstein files?

13 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

So let me get this right.......the British establishment, renowned for its protection of the Royal family.......happily blew 12 million, the Queen basically disowned her son, and his Prince Andrew's own brother will have nothing to do with him.

 

 

                                     .........all because of a fake photo that was already in the public domain........

 

 

Give your head a wobble.

 

Giuffre was proven to be a mentally unstable liar.

 

Of course she'd lie for 12 million.

16 minutes ago, dutch boy said:

The truth about Bill Clinton’s cozy friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and his ‘lovely girls’ as House subpoenas testimony

https://nypost.com/2025/08/06/us-news/the-truth-about-bill-clintons-cozy-friendship-with-jeffrey-epstein-and-his-lovely-girls/

 

Bill Clinton is a pervert and had sex with "that woman" in the White House on Easter Sunday. Billy absolutely knew about Epstein's love of the underage girls. And old Billy boy wanted in. I hope the truth comes out in the House testimony. 

Release the Epstein files and if there is evidence in them against Clinton let him deal with the consequences regardless.

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

Geta grip. The fake 'photo was only part of the story, obviously.

 

Oh, I see..........am I correct in thinking all of the rest of the story was fake/concocted?

 

Fake witnesses, fake letters, fake videos?

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I have no idea.

 

Of course you do. You just won't admit it because he's "one of yours".

 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

But let me ask you the same question I have asked others.

 

Trump promised to release the Epstein files.

 

Do you agree he should now release the Epstein files?

 

Biden should have released the files.

 

Trump will. 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Giuffre was proven to be a mentally unstable liar.

 

Of course she'd lie for 12 million.

 

 

But Maxwell would never lie to gain her freedom.....correct?

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

Oh, I see..........am I correct in thinking all of the rest of the story was fake/concocted?

 

Fake witnesses, fake letters, fake videos?

Yes. It took time, but you finally got there. Well done. Enjoy the rest of your day.

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Of course you do. You just won't admit it because he's "one of yours".

 

 

Biden should have released the files.

 

Trump will. 

No I do not.

 

I have absolutely no idea on the matter.

 

I’ll ask you again, it’s a simple question, give it a go:

 

Trump promised to release the Epstein files.

 

Do you agree he should now release the Epstein files?

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Oh, I see..........am I correct in thinking all of the rest of the story was fake/concocted?

 

Fake witnesses, fake letters, fake videos?

Replied separately.

10 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Utter rubbish........so you really believe that a random woman can fake a photo, claim she slept with a member of the Royal family.....and on the grounds that the member of the Royal family can't prove they didn't have sex with them.....the Queen writes a cheque for 12 million.........utter dross

 

Whether Giuffre or anyone else faked the photo, who knows, but of course a "random" woman can claim she slept with a member of the royal family and can initiate a legal claim on that claim.  

 

After all that's what Giuffre did with Alan Dershowitz, she sued him even though she knew full well she never slept with him. Difference was Dershowitz was so lucky he could prove it with evidence, that it couldn't have happened.

 

Obviously Prince Andrew was not so lucky, he didn't have evidence he couldn't have slept with Giuffre, so his lawyers advised him and the royal family, that yes, it's possible he could lose the case since he didn't have the evidence proving he didn't sleep with Giuffre. The lawyers would have done a damage assesment and the projected legal fees of BOTH Giuffre and Andrew and monies paid on the basis of a lost claim would have surpassed by far the money paid to Giuffre, which reportedly was much lower, only 3 million pounds.

 

This is routinely done not just by celebrities, but also by corporations, they settle because it's cheaper. Very sensible usually.

 

 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No I do not.

 

I have absolutely no idea on the matter.

 

I’ll ask you again, it’s a simple question, give it a go:

 

Trump promised to release the Epstein files.

 

Do you agree he should now release the Epstein files?

 

I'll ask you again. 

 

Do you think Biden should have released the files?

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Oh, I see..........am I correct in thinking all of the rest of the story was fake/concocted?

 

Fake witnesses, fake letters, fake videos?

 

That was very much the conclusiion in the Giuffre vs Dershowitz trial, where it quickly became apparent that Giuffre's case was highly implausible due to evidence Dershowitz could adduce. So Giuffre was forced to abandon her case and claim "bad memory" to save face. 

 

If there's all these letters, witnesses and videos, why couldn't Giuffre win her case against Dershowitz? Because she's a liar and it never happened.

Lick the **** of the one guy that can get you out of jail.

 

Smart move.

11 hours ago, webfact said:

Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly informed Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche that President Donald Trump never acted inappropriately towards her.

This is not about how Trump (or anyone else involved) acted towards Ghislaine Maxwell. This is about how Maxwell ‘recruited’ many girls, many of them underage, and more or less forced them to have sex with one or more of her ‘clients’. 
And like I stated before: unlike MAGA, I don’t care who’s on the client list. If it’s Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Donald Trump or the pope himself. I just want all of them to be investigated, if necessary prosecuted and if found guilty, convicted and thrown in jail for a very long time. No exceptions!!!

6 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Yes. It took time, but you finally got there. Well done. Enjoy the rest of your day.

 

 

5555......Well worth the effort for 12 million......how dumb can the Brits be to accept a load of fake guff and not be able show it was ALL faked.

 

You should have offered to show them it was all fake for 10 million....everyone is then quids in.

 

 

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I'll ask you again. 

 

Do you think Biden should have released the files?

Oddly it’s not something you’ve ever asked me before, but yes I do.

 

And no, I have no idea why he didn’t.

 

Now your turn (again):

 

Trump promised to release the Epstein files.

 

Do you agree he should now release the Epstein files?