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Maxwell Clears Trump: DOJ Considers Releasing Interview

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4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

5555......Well worth the effort for 12 million......how dumb can the Brits be to accept a load of fake guff and not be able show it was ALL faked.

 

You should have offered to show them it was all fake for 10 million....everyone is then quids in.

 

 

I agree. I tried but nobody wanted to hear.

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  • Quell surprise 😲 did anyone think for a moment a prisoner at the mercy of trump who holds the key to get herself freedom would say otherwise lmao 😂 I think most folks know better.

  • Good to hear it clarified once and for all.   I always knew Trump wasn't involved.   

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6 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

Lick the **** of the one guy that can get you out of jail.

 

Smart move.

 

No....she just had this irresistible urge to tell the truth.....why?...... now no one knows.......and obviously pure coincidence that she is then moved to Club Fed a week later.......the first ever sex offender to have enjoyed such a huge upgrade 

7 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:


This is not about how Trump (or anyone else involved) acted towards Ghislaine Maxwell. This is about how Maxwell ‘recruited’ many girls, many of them underage, and more or less forced them to have sex with one or more of her ‘clients’. 
And like I stated before: unlike MAGA, I don’t care who’s on the client list. If it’s Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Donald Trump or the pope himself. I just want all of them to be investigated, if necessary prosecuted and if found guilty, convicted and thrown in jail for a very long time. No exceptions!!!

 

Maxwell never "forced" anyone to have sex with Epstein. All they had to do was to promise money and other material enticements and all the girls consented with almost no exceptions. Physical force was never used.

 

There is no "client" list, because Epstein didn't have "clients", he wasn't running a sex trafficking operation for others, but for himself alone. Much like Diddy's freak-offs were for him alone, and his parties were totally different affairs. There is no evidence Epstein ever used extortion on anyone, which would have been non-sensical to start with as he had millions of dollars amassed already.

 

The rumour that Epstein filmed sexual encounters to blackmail people was started by Sara Ransome, who later admited that she just made it up.

 

 

I find it odd that forum members, one in particular, who frequently express their concern over girls being raped elsewhere are all of a sudden being as slippery as a wet bar of soap on this very simple question:

 

Trump promised to release the Epstein files.

 

Do you agree he should now release the Epstein files?

8 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

What happened to "The walls are closing in"  Now, that was a favorite for a long time. 

 

I haven't followed all this Epstein stuff besides reading headlines. But, if Trump did what AN posters think he did then where are the victims? You don't think the supposed victims will be looking for a payday?

I guess he liked to be around legal teen pageants but smart enough to play elsewhere.

 

Eye candy.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Maxwell never "forced" anyone to have sex with Epstein. All they had to do was to promise money and other material enticements and all the girls consented with almost no exceptions. Physical force was never used.

 

There is no "client" list, because Epstein didn't have "clients", he wasn't running a sex trafficking operation for others, but for himself alone. Much like Diddy's freak-offs were for him alone, and his parties were totally different affairs. There is no evidence Epstein ever used extortion on anyone, which would have been non-sensical to start with as he had millions of dollars amassed already.

 

The rumour that Epstein filmed sexual encounters to blackmail people was started by Sara Ransome, who later admited that she just made it up.

 

 

Release the Epstein files and we’ll find out what true and what is not.

 

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

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1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Maxwell never "forced" anyone to have sex with Epstein. All they had to do was to promise money and other material enticements and all the girls consented with almost no exceptions. Physical force was never used.

 

 

You do know that is totally immaterial when they are minors?

 

Forced, coerced, threatened, cajoled, persuaded, bribed........it is still statutory rape. 

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oddly it’s not something you’ve ever asked me before, but yes I do.

 

And no, I have no idea why he didn’t.

 

Now your turn (again):

 

Trump promised to release the Epstein files.

 

Do you agree he should now release the Epstein files?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes of course Trump should release them. I have said that many times.

 

And he will. To not do so would make him almost as bad as Biden, pardoning his son after promising not to. 

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

You do know that is totally immaterial when they are minors?

 

Forced, coerced, threatened, cajoled, persuaded, bribed........it is still statutory rape. 

He does not know much...another kunucklehead has joined the ranks of AN.

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Release the Epstein files and we’ll find out what true and what is not.

 

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

 

A huge portion of the files have already been released.

 

It would be insanity to release all of them, because it would include interviews with "survivors" that contain statements that were later shown to be total lies. How would the general public distinguish between preliminary investigation interviews where "survivors" lied and true facts? They wouldn't be able to..

 

Not to mention the data protection, defamation and other nightmare implications.

 

Clearly there is no client list, Epstein didn't have "clients", he only had a book of people he knew, which has already been made public.

 

Not releasing all the files is absolutely the right decision, only those files with TRUE and verified information should be released.

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20r07dg6kro

 

11 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

You do know that is totally immaterial when they are minors?

 

Forced, coerced, threatened, cajoled, persuaded, bribed........it is still statutory rape. 

 

It's not immaterial whether a girl was forced with physical force to have sex or was persuaded to do so with the payment of money, it has implications for sentencing and of course tells us much about how Maxwell and Epstein operated and also how the teenagers themselves acted. 

 

It's highly relevant. Had physical force been used the punishment would have been harsher still.

 

Indeed additional criminal charges would have been brought.

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oddly it’s not something you’ve ever asked me before, but yes I do.

 

And no, I have no idea why he didn’t.

 

Now your turn (again):

 

Trump promised to release the Epstein files.

 

Do you agree he should now release the Epstein files?

 

 

 

 

 

Trump promised to release the JFK file first term, did he? 

 

Can't trust Trump, I also believe every previous presidents promised something they knew was impossible for some reasons. 

 

It is a mind game, but this is different, it is a personal connection to the files, not like JFK had any relations to those in power when Obama promised he would, and also Guantanamo bay which he also promised to shut down, was not personal to Obama.

 

Trump was friends with Epstein, and therefore it is a bit more delicate matter. It is even more seriously matter. Even Cam claims those girls 14 years and up was just hookers enjoying their job. 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

A huge portion of the files have already been released.

 

It would be insanity to release all of them, because it would include interviews with "survivors" that contain statements that were later shown to be total lies. How would the general public distinguish between preliminary investigation interviews where "survivors" lied and true facts? The wouldn't be able to..

 

Not to mention the data protection, defamation and other nightmare implications.

 

Clearly there is no client list, Epstein didn't have "clients", he only had a book of people he knew, which has already been made public.

 

Not releasing all the files is absolutely the right decision, only those files with TRUE and verified information should be released.

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20r07dg6kro

 

 

 

When people say release the files....they don't mean just a run copy off and let everyman and his dog see them.

 

They mean...................

 

 

 

 

Police or investigators are usually the first to handle the evidence. They secure it, catalog it, and make initial decisions about what might be relevant.

 

Forensic experts then analyze the material. If it's digital, specialists look at files, metadata, and devices. If it's physical, experts might examine documents, substances, or biological samples.

 

Prosecutors review the evidence to decide what supports the charges and what should be presented in court. They also have a legal duty to share relevant evidence with the defense.

 

Defense attorneys examine the evidence to find anything that helps their client or challenges the prosecution’s case. They may argue that some evidence was improperly obtained or is unreliable.

 

Judges decide what evidence is legally admissible. They can exclude anything that violates legal standards or is unfairly prejudicial.

 

If the case goes to trial, juries hear the evidence and decide what it means in terms of guilt or innocence.

 

Each role is part of a system designed to ensure the evidence is handled fairly and thoroughly. Let me know if you want to explore how this works in a specific type of case.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Even Cam claims those girls 14 years and up was just hookers enjoying their job

 

Virginia Giuffre was certainly a common whore. She even lived with a pimp before she met Epstein. And she certainly enjoyed the trips to Thailand to learn massage and the many tens of thousands of dollars Epstein paid her for her sexual services.

 

She wasn't just a whore of course, she also helped recruit other girls for Epstein's harem. So she was an accomplice to the crimes, but was never charged.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

A huge portion of the files have already been released.

 

It would be insanity to release all of them, because it would include interviews with "survivors" that contain statements that were later shown to be total lies. How would the general public distinguish between preliminary investigation interviews where "survivors" lied and true facts? They wouldn't be able to..

 

Not to mention the data protection, defamation and other nightmare implications.

 

Clearly there is no client list, Epstein didn't have "clients", he only had a book of people he knew, which has already been made public.

 

Not releasing all the files is absolutely the right decision, only those files with TRUE and verified information should be released.

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20r07dg6kro

 

Do you really think a man who control people, do not have files? How coloured can you be? 

 

Every professional in any business make notes and reports of everything they do and have done. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Virginia Giuffre was certainly a common whore. She even lived with a pimp before she met Epstein. And she certainly enjoyed the trips to Thailand to learn massage and the many tens of thousands of dollars Epstein paid her for her sexual services.

 

She wasn't just a whore of course, she also helped recruit other girls for Epstein's harem. So she was an accomplice to the crimes, but was never charged.

Who are you to know? Same you know All women are the real abusers? 

 

Edit note: Thank you for proving my  👉 point 

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

When people say release the files....they don't mean just a run copy off and let everyman and his dog see them.

 

They mean...................

 

 

 

 

Police or investigators are usually the first to handle the evidence. They secure it, catalog it, and make initial decisions about what might be relevant.

 

Forensic experts then analyze the material. If it's digital, specialists look at files, metadata, and devices. If it's physical, experts might examine documents, substances, or biological samples.

 

Prosecutors review the evidence to decide what supports the charges and what should be presented in court. They also have a legal duty to share relevant evidence with the defense.

 

Defense attorneys examine the evidence to find anything that helps their client or challenges the prosecution’s case. They may argue that some evidence was improperly obtained or is unreliable.

 

Judges decide what evidence is legally admissible. They can exclude anything that violates legal standards or is unfairly prejudicial.

 

If the case goes to trial, juries hear the evidence and decide what it means in terms of guilt or innocence.

 

Each role is part of a system designed to ensure the evidence is handled fairly and thoroughly. Let me know if you want to explore how this works in a specific type of case.

 

That's not what people are talking about at all. The documents of the legal cases, both Epstein's and Maxwell's have long been available.

 

People are asking for ALL the files relating to the investigation to be released, including interviews with the "survivors", witnesses and so on.

 

Given that a large portion of the statements made by survivores were later proven to be false and lies, by admission of the survivors themselves in part, releasing files that contain lies and misinformation would just be stupid.

 

Again, absolutely the right decision not to realease all the files. Only those files with true and verified information should be released.

Well, it was probably either that or her getting "suicided!"

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Only those files with true and verified information should be released.

 

And the verification process should be carried by.....? ........Bondi, Patel, Bongino.......or as per my post above?

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Who are you to know? Same you know All women are the real abusers? 

 

It's freakin' public knowledge, go ahead and educate yourself:

 

"It was reported that she had come from a "troubled home" and, from the age of seven, was molested by a close family friend. She lived on the streets at age 14, Later she was abused by a sex trafficker, Ron Eppinger, in Miami. Giuffre lived with Eppinger for approximately 6 months. Eppinger reportedly ran a front business for international sex trafficking known as the modeling agency "Perfect 10". He was raided by the FBI and later pleaded guilty to charges of alien smuggling for prostitution, interstate travel for prostitution, and money laundering."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre

 

She was a whore before she even met Epstein.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's freakin' public knowledge, go ahead and educate yourself:

 

"It was reported that she had come from a "troubled home" and, from the age of seven, was molested by a close family friend. She lived on the streets at age 14, Later she was abused by a sex trafficker, Ron Eppinger, in Miami. Giuffre lived with Eppinger for approximately 6 months. Eppinger reportedly ran a front business for international sex trafficking known as the modeling agency "Perfect 10". He was raided by the FBI and later pleaded guilty to charges of alien smuggling for prostitution, interstate travel for prostitution, and money laundering."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre

 

She was a whore before she even met Epstein.

 

 

 

Not your area of expertise geographically (I don't think).......but am I right in assuming you would describe all the underage girls in the UK, raped and abused by grooming gangs, are simply whores?

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

And verification process should be carried by.....? ........Bondi, Patel, Bongino.......or as per my post above?

 

I think you described the process good enough earlier.

 

Clearly you'd prefer to do the job, perhaps you can send an application to the DOJ? Good luck.

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

Not your area of expertise geographically (I don't think).......but am I right in assuming you would describe all the underage girls in the UK, raped and abused by grooming gangs, are simply whores?

 

 

 

 

Ron Eppinger was convicted for running a prostitution business. Virginina Giuiffre lived with him and was one of his girls. If you think she didn't sell sex in Eppinger's operation you must be the most naive person in the world.

 

"Prince Andrew's chief accuser was a prostitute who lied about her age and was paid "half a million" by the disgraced paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, new court papers allege."

 

Virginia Roberts Giuffre, 37, who claims to have had sex with the prince three times when she was 17, was "on the game for about a year" before she met Ghislaine Maxwell, who is accused of sex trafficking her and a number of other young women in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

 

Allegations contained in newly-filed legal documents claim Ms Roberts Giuffre was 16, not 15, when she first met Ms Maxwell in Florida. She is also accused of changing her story about meeting Donald Trump at the last minute and of confusing one of the men she claimed to have been sex trafficked to with another Harvard professor. 

It is also alleged that she may have doctored an email and was using legal action as a form of "blackmail".

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/04/exclusive-prince-andrews-accuser-prostitute-paid-jeffrey-epstein/

 

I guess some of the things the files will bring out are not that palatable, huh?

35 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes of course Trump should release them. I have said that many times.

 

And he will. To not do so would make him almost as bad as Biden, pardoning his son after promising not to. 

I’m not at all convinced he will release the Epstein files.

 

I trust you too will be critical of his reasoning if he does not.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not at all convinced he will release the Epstein files.

 

I trust you too will be critical of his reasoning if he does not.

 

Of course.

 

Just as I am critical of your boy Biden for not releasing them during his term, and for pardoning his son after explicitly promising not to. 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not at all convinced he will release the Epstein files.

 

He's already released Epstein files:

 

Here, knock yourself out:

 

https://vault.fbi.gov/jeffrey-epstein

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Virginia Giuffre was certainly a common whore. She even lived with a pimp before she met Epstein. And she certainly enjoyed the trips to Thailand to learn massage and the many tens of thousands of dollars Epstein paid her for her sexual services.

 

She wasn't just a whore of course, she also helped recruit other girls for Epstein's harem. So she was an accomplice to the crimes, but was never charged.

She was trafficked as a child, therefore not a ‘common whore’

 

Interestingly you’ve moved from defending pedos to attacking one of their victims.

 

You really do make my flesh creep.

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Of course.

 

Just as I am critical of your boy Biden for not releasing them during his term, and for pardoning his son after explicitly promising not to. 

I am too, O think it was a huge mistake.

 

But here’s a couple of things.

 

He never promised he would release the Epstein files and there has never been any suggestion he was ever named in the Epstein files.

 

This is nothing to do with Biden’s son.

 

It is a lot to do with Trump who you have declared innocent without seeing the evidence.

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

She was trafficked as a child, therefore not a ‘common whore’

 

Interestingly you’ve moved from defending pedos to attacking one of their victims.

 

You really do make my flesh creep.

 

Virginia Giuffre was most certainly a common whore, and one year before she met Ghislaine Maxwell she was already working as a prostitute:

 

"Prince Andrew's chief accuser was a prostitute who lied about her age and was paid "half a million" by the disgraced paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, new court papers allege."

 

Virginia Roberts Giuffre, 37, who claims to have had sex with the prince three times when she was 17, was "on the game for about a year" before she met Ghislaine Maxwell, who is accused of sex trafficking her and a number of other young women in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

 

Allegations contained in newly-filed legal documents claim Ms Roberts Giuffre was 16, not 15, when she first met Ms Maxwell in Florida. She is also accused of changing her story about meeting Donald Trump at the last minute and of confusing one of the men she claimed to have been sex trafficked to with another Harvard professor. 

It is also alleged that she may have doctored an email and was using legal action as a form of "blackmail".

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/04/exclusive-prince-andrews-accuser-prostitute-paid-jeffrey-epstein/

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It is a lot to do with Trump who you have declared innocent without seeing the evidence.

 

Innocent until proven guilty Chomps.

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