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Just now, Hummin said:

A good thing you admit it, Gaza is a prison and a concentration camp for more than 50 years now, and occupying larger parts of the region and the new settlers is abusing people 

 

   Lets help the Palestinians escape from their awful living conditions .

Who would want to live in an open air prison concertation camp ?

Lets help the Gazians escape .

Help the Gazians flee ,like the Jews fled Eastern Europe in the 1940's

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Posted
2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Israel are not members of the ICC and the ICC doesn't have any jurisdiction over Israel 

Which is another Strawman.

 

Packers comment was not referring to the State of Israel but to warrants for the arrest of Israeli citizens.

 

This might help you understand the issue:

 

https://www.ecchr.eu/fileadmin/Q_As/ECCHR_QA_arrest_warrant_ICC_Netanjahu_Gallant_042025.pdf

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5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which is another Strawman.

 

Packers comment was not referring to the State of Israel but to warrants for the arrest of Israeli citizens.

 

This might help you understand the issue:

 

https://www.ecchr.eu/fileadmin/Q_As/ECCHR_QA_arrest_warrant_ICC_Netanjahu_Gallant_042025.pdf

 

   Not a strawman argument at all .

Packer said that Netanyahu should surrender himself to the ICC (in Brussels) and I pointed out that as Israel are not members of the ICC then Netanyahu doesn't need to adhere to their arrest warrants or visit Brussels to surrender himself there

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5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not a strawman argument at all .

Packer said that Netanyahu should surrender himself to the ICC (in Brussels) and I pointed out that as Israel are not members of the ICC then Netanyahu doesn't need to adhere to their arrest warrants or visit Brussels to surrender himself there

 

You are right Israel are not members of the ICC.

However, the ICC asserts jurisdiction over actions in Palestinian territory because Palestine acceded to the Rome Statute.
This creates legal and political disputes, especially with recent ICC actions, like the request for arrest warrants against Israeli leaders for actions in Gaza.
The ICC prosecutes individuals, not states.
The ICC operates on the principle of complementarity, intervening when national legal systems cannot or will not investigate and prosecute serious international crimes. 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

You are right Israel are not members of the ICC.

However, the ICC asserts jurisdiction over actions in Palestinian territory because Palestine acceded to the Rome Statute.
This creates legal and political disputes, especially with recent ICC actions, like the request for arrest warrants against Israeli leaders for actions in Gaza.
The ICC prosecutes individuals, not states.
The ICC operates on the principle of complementarity, intervening when national legal systems cannot or will not investigate and prosecute serious international crimes. 

 

   Why aren't the ICC taking legal action against the 1000's of Palestinian war criminals  living in Gaza ?

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27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not a strawman argument at all .

Packer said that Netanyahu should surrender himself to the ICC (in Brussels) and I pointed out that as Israel are not members of the ICC then Netanyahu doesn't need to adhere to their arrest warrants or visit Brussels to surrender himself there

Again you are misrepresenting reality.

 

While in Israel or the United States Netanyahu is protected from arrest.

 

Other parts of the world he is not.

 

The warrant is against Netanyahu, not Israel, his nationality has no bearing on the arrest warrant.

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10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why aren't the ICC taking legal action against the 1000's of Palestinian war criminals  living in Gaza ?

The ICC has issued arrest warrants against named members of Hamas with specific reference to Hamas’ terrorist attack of October 7.

 

Your assertion of 1000’s of Palestinian war criminals is an example of the hyperbole you so frequently engage in.

 

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-pre-trial-chamber-i-issues-warrant-arrest-mohammed-diab-ibrahim

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2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Again you are misrepresenting reality.

 

While in Israel or the United States Netanyahu is protected from arrest.

 

Other parts of the world he is not.

 

The warrant is against Netanyahu, not Israel, his nationality has no bearing on the arrest warrant.

 

   I was talking about the suggestion that  Netanyahu should voluntarily surrender to ICC in the Hague to face a trial .,

   As Israel is not a member on the ICC , then he has no obligation to comply with their  warrants

  

Posted
46 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Lets help the Palestinians escape from their awful living conditions .

Who would want to live in an open air prison concertation camp ?

Lets help the Gazians escape .

Help the Gazians flee ,like the Jews fled Eastern Europe in the 1940's

You only want them to flee so you can take their land.

Do you like Daniella Weiss, the queen of settlers?

Posted
2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

 

Your assertion of 1000’s of Palestinian war criminals is an example of the hyperbole you so frequently engage in.

 

   Taking hostages is a war crime , holding hostages is a war crime .

There will be 1000's , even 10's of thousands of Palestinians involved in the taking and holding of hostages in Gaza .

   Its not hyperbole at all , there ARE 1000's of Palestinians in Gaza involved in holding hostages , which DOES make them war criminals 

   There are indeed 1000' of Palestinian war criminals in Gaza 

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3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I was talking about the suggestion that  Netanyahu should voluntarily surrender to ICC in the Hague to face a trial .,

   As Israel is not a member on the ICC , then he has no obligation to comply with their  warrants

  

That’s convenient. Anyway, not being a member doesn’t mean they can’t be prosecuted.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Taking hostages is a war crime , holding hostages is a war crime .

There will be 1000's , even 10's of thousands of Palestinians involved in the taking and holding of hostages in Gaza .

   Its not hyperbole at all , there ARE 1000's of Palestinians in Gaza involved in holding hostages , which DOES make them war criminals 

   There are indeed 1000' of Palestinian war criminals in Gaza 

Administrative detainees are in their thousands in Israel. 

Posted
On 8/9/2025 at 10:21 AM, ezzra said:

There's no convincing people who sees Jews as the source of evil in this world, and lord only knows that this forum is not short on those, (wasn't use to be like this back in the days) and those who still harbour disdain and loathing for Jews just because they're Jews, probably from education and indoctrinations since they were young.

Got nothing to do with Jews. Can't tell me that these Zionists are religious. 

 

Plenty of genuine Jews in the UK don't support the semite's murder by the European settler Israelis.

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Posted
55 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I was talking about the suggestion that  Netanyahu should voluntarily surrender to ICC in the Hague to face a trial .,

   As Israel is not a member on the ICC , then he has no obligation to comply with their  warrants

  

Criminal suspects not complying with arrest warrants is nothing new.

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The warrant is against Netanyahu, not Israel, his nationality has no bearing on the arrest warrant.

 

   Yes it does . 

Netanyahu's Nationality is indeed relevant , because if he was from a ICC member Country then that country would be obliged to arrest him and send him the the ICC in the Hague 

  As he is Israeli and Israel isn't  member of the iCC , Israel has no obligation to arrest him 

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22 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes it does . 

Netanyahu's Nationality is indeed relevant , because if he was from a ICC member Country then that country would be obliged to arrest him and send him the the ICC in the Hague 

  As he is Israeli and Israel isn't  member of the iCC , Israel has no obligation to arrest him 

Oh!

 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why aren't the ICC taking legal action against the 1000's of Palestinian war criminals  living in Gaza ?

 

I would hope they will, if there is evidence found that individuals committed war crimes, same for individuals of the Israeli Defence Force.

Posted
1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

I would hope they will, if there is evidence found that individuals committed war crimes, same for individuals of the Israeli Defence Force.

 

   Do you think that the Israelis in Gaza are holding themselves hostage ?

Posted
3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I was talking about the suggestion that  Netanyahu should voluntarily surrender to ICC in the Hague to face a trial .,

   As Israel is not a member on the ICC , then he has no obligation to comply with their  warrants

  

 

If as the majority of pro-Israel supporters on this forum say Netanyahu is innocent of any war crimes he could go for trial at the ICC and prove his innocence, but is he willing to take that chance?

The fact that Israel has not ratified the ICC is irrelevant, as a Israeli citizen  he is still able to be accused, as the individual, not the State is charged with the crime or crimes.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you think that the Israelis in Gaza are holding themselves hostage ?

 

No of course not, they are being held by Hamas or some other Terrorists, if they are still alive and in Gaza.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

No of course not, they are being held by Hamas or some other Terrorists, if they are still alive and in Gaza.

   Then what other evidence do you need that they are committing war crimes ?

Posted
3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   One of them . 

A "One of who" 

Ask him yourself because I am in no position to state other peoples Religion 

 

You are pointing out he’s one of a religion but you are in no position to do it.

Make your mind up.

What difference would his religion make anyway, it was an excellent, eloquent post.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   Then what other evidence do you need that they are committing war crimes ?

 

None whatsoever, same applies to the majority of the Israeli government in power, and members of the IDF who have openly posted war crimes all over the internet.

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Posted
15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Got nothing to do with Jews. Can't tell me that these Zionists are religious. 

 

Plenty of genuine Jews in the UK don't support the semite's murder by the European settler Israelis.

Zionism is a movement created to bring Jewish survivors of the WWII gas chambers to settle in their ancestral land, it is the Arab that started several wars since then.

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Posted
16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Taking hostages is a war crime , holding hostages is a war crime .

There will be 1000's , even 10's of thousands of Palestinians involved in the taking and holding of hostages in Gaza .

   Its not hyperbole at all , there ARE 1000's of Palestinians in Gaza involved in holding hostages , which DOES make them war criminals 

   There are indeed 1000' of Palestinian war criminals in Gaza 

You posting stuff and reality are not necessary the same thing.

 

Its why you so seldom back your claims with credible links.

Posted
13 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   Then what other evidence do you need that they are committing war crimes ?

Don’t you normally demand video evidence.

 

Perhaps video of thousands or tens of thousands of Palestinians guarding a hostage while presenting their IS for verification.

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There's a place in Sudan, El 'Fasher, Darfur, where nearly one million people have been under siege of starvation, killing and death, where babies starve and died every day, yet, not a mention of it anywhere around the world, no marches, no banners, no VIP's showing in support, a complete hypocrisy, blindness and myopic vision, why? not interested in them black people, over in those god forsaken countries, Palestine is in fashion now, and oh yeah, there are jews involved, should be fun.

Read up on it here:

 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/why-are-people-in-sudans-el-fasher-starving

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