1 minute ago, BatteringRam said:

 

That's not really a grill, but a kind of hotplate in a dome shape. The grill is usually somewhere else or you order one to your table. It has a wire mesh, as grills do. I guess your girlfriend didn't order one or take you to the big grill.

Show 'em how it's done.

I've been to many Mukratha places, both with her and my ex. They had grills and hotplates, and we've used both. There are versions as Wiki explains...............https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_kratha.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've been to many Mukratha places, both with her and my ex. They had grills and hotplates, and we've used both. There are versions as Wiki explains...............https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_kratha.

 

I don't need to read a Wiki, don't be silly. I been going to them since the 20th century.

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, it strikes me the Mu Krathas are usually run by people who want to run a restaurant but have no idea how to cook. So some dubious cuts of meat are laid out like in a buffet and not only do you have to collect it, you have to cook it and the worst: They don't even have hot rice half the time!

 

I hate Mu Kratha with a passion.

 

That's weird.

Does that mean that you also hate garden barbecues?

Back in the 80's when I was Head Chef at an ICI management hotel the M.D. of the Division was a big fan of Anton Mosimann. After he left the Dorchester Hotel, after gaining Britain's first 2 Star  Micheline restaurant he opened his own place in Belgravia, and he published his book Cuisine Naturelle, he was at the launch, and I was given a signed copy.

I wondered in to work on the Monday to find the M.D. sitting in my office with said book with notes on what his party had eaten there over the weekend and what he wanted me to produce at his next Dinner Party.

Myself and my 2nd Chef did a dry run on the Wednesday for the Hotel managers prior to the Friday night Dinner Party for 8 people, a big deal at the time, up shot of the whole thing from me was B.S. on a plate. Nevertheless we followed the recipe's religiously and the dry run was a big success.

Come the day of the Party for 8, I concentrated on getting the look right, but instead of taking hours to prepare sauces and stuff as in the book we did it my way, all looked exactly the same, the following Monday I had another visit from the M.D. the upshot of it was 2 of the couples who had been with him in London said that the meal was far better than they had there, we laughed about it for ages.

 

Guess the Thai's have cottoned on to B.S. on a plate, which in my opinion is just a case of, make it look good and charge the earth.

59 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

 

Rice? I've not ever had rice at a Mu Khrata 😊 Doesn't your girlfriend show you how to do it?  Often there is a free communal grill where you can grill your seafood and meat. But for a mere 60 to 70 baht, you can order your own personal grill. So you can grill meat, sausage, hamburgers...whatever you would like to eat. You don't have to follow everyone else. Make it into your style of garden party.

 

I think few people do, they seem to have only one rice pot at Mu Kratha, and depending on what time of day you come, if it's gone, that's just tough. No more is made.

 

Who eats grilled meat without a side dish?  If I want to do extreme keto I can do it at home. If I go out I want a full meal.

 

And the gf doesn't need to show me how its' done  I can see from those around me that there are 3 different cooking methods to choose from, and you have to pay for each Still no rice though.

47 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

 

That's weird.

Does that mean that you also hate garden barbecues?

 

I don't find Mu Kratha like garden barbecues. In garden barbecues I was never told "no rice, sorry". Or no bread, no fries. And you control the quality of the meat in garden barbecues and the company.

 

At a Mu Krataha there's no rapport with the staff, because they don't serve you and don't cook for you. 

 

Basically Mu Kratha is all the worst aspects of a buffet, but there's no dishes. You cook it yourself If it was all top quality ok, but usually it's the opposite.

 

 

4 hours ago, BatteringRam said:

 

 

 

Your statements aren't matching up. You've mentioned a Pad Thai, a steamed Sea bass and Khao Soi with crabmeat.

 

To what kind of super creative food are you referring?

 

I'm lucky enough to live close to the sea and close to seafood markets, so an abundance of seafood is almost a normality and not at all expensive.

 

So I'm actually interested in the super-creative luxury dining. But what is it?

 

When I have attended more upmarket restaurants, the main difference is the presentation. usually beautifully presented, with carved vegetables and edible flowers and possibly a higher quality of ingredient. But in all honesty, I haven't ever had a, for instance, Green Curry, that was better than home made.

 

I'd tend to agree with that; the difference in price generally reflects the better quality ingredients, the presentation, and whether you're sat on comfy chairs with air con, or on plastic chairs with a fan.

 

One place I do like to visit for the occasional splurge when in Bangkok is the Issaya Siamese Club, which usually has an interesting tasting menu, prices are very reasonable, and it makes for a pleasant evening with family and/or friends.

 

https://www.issaya.com/issaya-restaurant

41 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't find Mu Kratha like garden barbecues. In garden barbecues I was never told "no rice, sorry". Or no bread, no fries. And you control the quality of the meat in garden barbecues and the company.

 

At a Mu Krataha there's no rapport with the staff, because they don't serve you and don't cook for you. 

 

Basically Mu Kratha is all the worst aspects of a buffet, but there's no dishes. You cook it yourself If it was all top quality ok, but usually it's the opposite.

 

 

 

 

They are pleasant enough places (and inexpensive) to take a 'casual friend' to.

They serve me in Mu Khrata. Pouring my drinks and topping up briquettes and soup. I even get staff members to prepare Thai foods for me if not dining with a local. Perhaps some of you are doing it all wrong.

There are lots of side dishes, but I wouldn't even dream of adding stodgy rice and potatoes. Especially if precooked and just sitting there. The meat goes into my soups or is eaten separately with dips and a salad. 

Don't tell me you just cook the vegetables and then fish them out to eat them like that?  I create a tasty broth and make bowls of soup. Some meat goes into the soup alongside vegetables and some eaten alone with dips. Your imagination is your limitation.

8 minutes ago, TopGun10 said:

They serve me in Mu Khrata. Pouring my drinks and topping up briquettes and soup. I even get staff members to prepare Thai foods for me if not dining with a local. Perhaps some of you are doing it all wrong.

There are lots of side dishes, but I wouldn't even dream of adding stodgy rice and potatoes. Especially if precooked and just sitting there. The meat goes into my soups or is eaten separately with dips and a salad. 

Don't tell me you just cook the vegetables and then fish them out to eat them like that?  I create a tasty broth and make bowls of soup. Some meat goes into the soup alongside vegetables and some eaten alone with dips. Your imagination is your limitation.

 

 

 

That is also my experience.

 

 

Perhaps some people are getting confused with Korean BBQ's.

16 minutes ago, TopGun10 said:

They serve me in Mu Khrata. Pouring my drinks and topping up briquettes and soup. I even get staff members to prepare Thai foods for me if not dining with a local. Perhaps some of you are doing it all wrong.

There are lots of side dishes, but I wouldn't even dream of adding stodgy rice and potatoes. Especially if precooked and just sitting there. The meat goes into my soups or is eaten separately with dips and a salad. 

Don't tell me you just cook the vegetables and then fish them out to eat them like that?  I create a tasty broth and make bowls of soup. Some meat goes into the soup alongside vegetables and some eaten alone with dips. Your imagination is your limitation.

 

Sounds digusting.

 

Eating soup at a barbecue. Just when you thought Mu Kratha can't get any worse.

 

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Perhaps some people are getting confused with Korean BBQ's.

 

No they're not. As was mentioned upthread, most Mu Krathas offer three choices of food preparation, which includes cooking, barbecueing and also something akin to pan frying. How could anyone get confused?

So you've not ever had a soup with meat and vegetables or seafood and vegetables or fish and vegetables? Some strange characters on this forum. Do you only eat your mum's food?

2 minutes ago, TopGun10 said:

So you've not ever had a soup with meat and vegetables or seafood and vegetables or fish and vegetables? Some strange characters on this forum. Do you only eat your mum's food?

 

He doesn't know what he is talking about. That broth (soup) in the pot can be really delicious.

1 minute ago, TopGun10 said:

So you've not ever had a soup with meat and vegetables or seafood and vegetables or fish and vegetables?

 

 

I have had such soups, but not at barbecues. When there's a possibility to barbecue I prefer to barbecue.

 

Also I don't generally go to restaurants for soup. When I go to restaurants I want a real meal.

 

This whole notion of doing a soup yourself in some God forsaken Mu Kratha is not my idea of satisfactory dining.  It doesn't just sound disgusting, I've tried and it is disgsuting.

Mu Khrata is not just a barbecue restaurant, otherwise they would call it just a BBQ. It's buffet. If you are inventive, you can create many different dishes. If you lack imagination, you might think it's just a BBQ. But you also have Shabu-shabu(the soup part) and many side dishes and desserts.

So you have the different ways to prepare meals, you have ingredients, you have side dishes. But you can only create disgusting food and hate it? That seems a failure on your part. How old are you? have you not developed any cooking skills or are you dependent on someone else for that?

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, TopGun10 said:

Mu Khrata is not just a barbecue restaurant, otherwise they would call it just a BBQ. It's buffet.

 

Yes, I'm fully aware of that. They barbecue the meat and throw it in a soup. Sorry, I tried it and I don't like it.

 

I'm sure it is creative. So is Modern Art, I still don't like it.

 

38 minutes ago, TopGun10 said:

But you also have Shabu-shabu(the soup part) and many side dishes and desserts.

 

Yes, and I really don't like Shabu. Tried it and it's not my thing.

 

39 minutes ago, TopGun10 said:

So you have the different ways to prepare meals, you have ingredients, you have side dishes. But you can only create disgusting food and hate it?

 

Well, the ingredients in Mu Kratha's tend to be rather poor. Poor quality meat in particular.

 

39 minutes ago, TopGun10 said:

. How old are you? have you not developed any cooking skills or are you dependent on someone else for that?

 

 

 

You shouldn't assume sh!t you don't know, I have cooking skills that are sujperior to yours. I cook myself and am not dependent on anyone. Don't try to do an analysis of someone you've never met and know nothing about.

On 10/23/2025 at 4:23 PM, fredwiggy said:

Larb Moo looks just like my girlfriends. She also makes a Shrimp Salad, cold, with ground pork, basil, thin rice noodles, onion and spices. There's a name for it here but can't think of it now.

 

Yam wun sen. The vermicelli noodles are made from mung beans, not rice.

 

On 10/23/2025 at 4:17 PM, fredwiggy said:

Leos in Sisaket is moderate to high price, great burgers and good pizza, along with excellent Thai food. The cooks are Thai, the owner a Brit.

 

Another place for great burgers and pizza in Muang Si Sa Ket is Cookoo's Nest, near the Big C.