5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Big whoop.  That's standard diplomat stuff.

 

Did Putin move on Ukraine during Trump's watch(es)?  Or just during Obama's and Biden's feckless terms?

 

 

The "Putin was afraid of Trump" MAGA argument! 😆

 

Why would Putin have invaded Ukraine when the price of energy was too low to finance a war?

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil

 

And also, why would Putin have started a war before accumulating enough financial reserves to finance it?

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/foreign-exchange-reserves

 

Xi never had plans to invade, like Hong Kong, a lot of money gets laundered through Taiwan. They are not going anywhere.

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

In 2044 you will have 250,000 posts. Please try. So interesting to read.

And you will have many new usernames by then, eh, Sue............

Plus, you will be about 35 yo, perhaps with a soulmate..........😏...........🤭

4 hours ago, Rocky Sullivan said:

How did Putin play him?  I’m not seeing it.

 

Obviously you did.  Share this insider information 

Just a few posts so that you can "see it"........and there are many more on similar posts, such as trump "warning" Putin and Putin doing exactly as he likes.

Some posts about trump being played by Putin, but of course the trump fanbase won’t/can’t see it because it shows that trump has had no effect on Putin whatsoever.

 

1). The latest call between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin has proved to be a barrel of laughs for Russian state media propagandists, military experts, and State Duma officials, who are convinced that the U.S. president is following the Kremlin’s plan to help vanquish Ukraine.

Putin’s Pals Laugh at Trump for Following Secret Kremlin Orders

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-pals-laugh-trump-following-140937459.html

2) Putin tells Trump what to do, so nothing new then.

 

3). It would seem that way wouldn't it, because initially Trump said he had "warned" Putin about ending the war and Putin did nothing about it, apart from trump saying, "I'm not happy.....", Some “warning” LOL. Something I've already mentioned in a previous post but on top of that comes the following which makes interesting reading: –

 

Donald Trump has demanded that Ukraine submit to Vladimir Putin’s peace terms or face destruction, it has emerged.

The US president, who spoke with his Russian counterpart shortly before hosting Volodymyr Zelenskyy last week, warned in an angry meeting at the White House that Putin would “destroy” Ukraine unless a peace deal was in place.

Shouting and swearing, Trump threw aside Ukrainian maps of the battlefield and pressured Zelenskyy to surrender the Donetsk region to Russia………

In the White House meeting, Trump echoed Putin’s talking points, despite them contradicting his own recent assessment that Moscow was a “paper tiger”, European officials briefed on the meeting told the Financial Times.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/trump-told-zelenskyy-to-surrender-donetsk-or-face-destruction-reports-say/PL3B3B3TQREJTPREHRMJ33V6B4/

 

In summary Trump has been played by Putin and the world can see it……. but the MAGAs can’t. Typical

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Rocky Sullivan said:

That not ending.  That’s escalation.

Are you back beachlover?

Same roll over attitude.

 

3 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Just a few posts so that you can "see it"........and there are many more on similar posts, such as trump "warning" Putin and Putin doing exactly as he likes.

Some posts about trump being played by Putin, but of course the trump fanbase won’t/can’t see it because it shows that trump has had no effect on Putin whatsoever.

 

1). The latest call between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin has proved to be a barrel of laughs for Russian state media propagandists, military experts, and State Duma officials, who are convinced that the U.S. president is following the Kremlin’s plan to help vanquish Ukraine.

Putin’s Pals Laugh at Trump for Following Secret Kremlin Orders

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-pals-laugh-trump-following-140937459.html

2) Putin tells Trump what to do, so nothing new then.

 

3). It would seem that way wouldn't it, because initially Trump said he had "warned" Putin about ending the war and Putin did nothing about it, apart from trump saying, "I'm not happy.....", Some “warning” LOL. Something I've already mentioned in a previous post but on top of that comes the following which makes interesting reading: –

 

Donald Trump has demanded that Ukraine submit to Vladimir Putin’s peace terms or face destruction, it has emerged.

The US president, who spoke with his Russian counterpart shortly before hosting Volodymyr Zelenskyy last week, warned in an angry meeting at the White House that Putin would “destroy” Ukraine unless a peace deal was in place.

Shouting and swearing, Trump threw aside Ukrainian maps of the battlefield and pressured Zelenskyy to surrender the Donetsk region to Russia………

In the White House meeting, Trump echoed Putin’s talking points, despite them contradicting his own recent assessment that Moscow was a “paper tiger”, European officials briefed on the meeting told the Financial Times.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/trump-told-zelenskyy-to-surrender-donetsk-or-face-destruction-reports-say/PL3B3B3TQREJTPREHRMJ33V6B4/

 

In summary Trump ahs been played by Putin and the world can see it……. but the MAGAs can’t. Typical

 

 

 

Pointless pointing anything out to the bloke, he has an agenda...🥴

 

Xi said years ago that he was eying the 30s for Taiwan's 'return to the fold'.

 

It's nothing to do with who's in office in the US even if Trump's trying to sell it on the same cock and bull basis his pal Putin 'would never have invaded Ukraine' if he'd been in office.

 

It's all so bloody tedious really.

25 minutes ago, BusyB said:

 

Xi said years ago that he was eying the 30s for Taiwan's 'return to the fold'.

 

It's nothing to do with who's in office in the US even if Trump's trying to sell it on the same cock and bull basis his pal Putin 'would never have invaded Ukraine' if he'd been in office.

 

It's all so bloody tedious really.

I think Xi is expected to retire in 2035, so that's the max. deadline.

9 minutes ago, candide said:

I think Xi is expected to retire in 2035, so that's the max. deadline.

 

If indeed he actually does something. I think he's smarter than that and he's also seen what happened to Putin's 3-day war in Ukraine as well. And Taiwan's an island a long way off the mainland   coast.

 

7 hours ago, jvs said:

Are you back beachlover?

Same roll over attitude.

 

LMAO

 

pay attention 

7 hours ago, xylophone said:

Just a few posts so that you can "see it"........and there are many more on similar posts, such as trump "warning" Putin and Putin doing exactly as he likes.

Some posts about trump being played by Putin, but of course the trump fanbase won’t/can’t see it because it shows that trump has had no effect on Putin whatsoever.

 

1). The latest call between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin has proved to be a barrel of laughs for Russian state media propagandists, military experts, and State Duma officials, who are convinced that the U.S. president is following the Kremlin’s plan to help vanquish Ukraine.

Putin’s Pals Laugh at Trump for Following Secret Kremlin Orders

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-pals-laugh-trump-following-140937459.html

2) Putin tells Trump what to do, so nothing new then.

 

3). It would seem that way wouldn't it, because initially Trump said he had "warned" Putin about ending the war and Putin did nothing about it, apart from trump saying, "I'm not happy.....", Some “warning” LOL. Something I've already mentioned in a previous post but on top of that comes the following which makes interesting reading: –

 

Donald Trump has demanded that Ukraine submit to Vladimir Putin’s peace terms or face destruction, it has emerged.

The US president, who spoke with his Russian counterpart shortly before hosting Volodymyr Zelenskyy last week, warned in an angry meeting at the White House that Putin would “destroy” Ukraine unless a peace deal was in place.

Shouting and swearing, Trump threw aside Ukrainian maps of the battlefield and pressured Zelenskyy to surrender the Donetsk region to Russia………

In the White House meeting, Trump echoed Putin’s talking points, despite them contradicting his own recent assessment that Moscow was a “paper tiger”, European officials briefed on the meeting told the Financial Times.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/trump-told-zelenskyy-to-surrender-donetsk-or-face-destruction-reports-say/PL3B3B3TQREJTPREHRMJ33V6B4/

 

In summary Trump has been played by Putin and the world can see it……. but the MAGAs can’t. Typical

 

 

 

Yahoo?

 

Credible?  I quit looking at Yahoo in 1999.

14 hours ago, transam said:

Putin, for sure, others, may be, well ol' Trump has back pedalled a lot with his tarrifs, eh..😉

It’s called negotiating for American interests.

 

As a Brit whose country has been infiltrated by Muslims you should be envious.

9 hours ago, Rocky Sullivan said:

It’s called negotiating for American interests.

 

As a Brit whose country has been infiltrated by Muslims you should be envious.

No, it's him not having a clue what to do, plus Putin is his chum.......🤫

 

Are you saying you have no Muslims in your country, you know, folk on their hands and knees holding up traffic.....😂

 

I think you need to do a bit of Googling, Monte.........🫡

Post using racist language removed @Rocky Sullivan

21 hours ago, transam said:

Pointless pointing anything out to the bloke, he has an agenda...🥴

AND he won't be very happy about the Dem candidates winning in the "good ol US of A". Love it!!

 

New Yorkers elected leftist Zohran Mamdani as their next mayor, broadcasters projected, on a day of key local ballots across the country offering the first electoral judgment of Donald Trump’s tumultuous second White House term.

 

In New Jersey, Democratic Party candidate Mikie Sherrill, a former Navy helicopter pilot, beat out Republican Jack Ciattarelli, a businessman backed by Trump.

 

In Virginia’s race for governor, Democratic candidate Abigail Spanberger unseated a Republican incumbent to beat Virginia’s Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earle-Sears.