Way to go to ruin what’s left of your approval ratings. He’s digging his own grave and is too delusional to even realize! Love it! 

Just 1 of many

 

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3 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

Way to go to ruin what’s left of your approval ratings. He’s digging his own grave and is too delusional to even realize! Love it! 

 

The food stampers vote Dem. 

 

That's if they can be bothered to get off "Dey Fad Ayezz" to vote at all. 

 

Everyone knows that the left buy votes from the poor and illegals via handouts. That's why they always promise extra handouts at election time. 

 

The fact that it weakens the country is a bonus because they hate themselves and their heritage. 

 

Nothing worse than a self loathing Liberal selling out their country. Or in many cases the country that gave them everything. 

37 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

The food stampers vote Dem. 

 

That's if they can be bothered to get off "Dey Fad Ayezz" to vote at all. 

 

Everyone knows that the left buy votes from the poor and illegals via handouts. That's why they always promise extra handouts at election time. 

 

The fact that it weakens the country is a bonus because they hate themselves and their heritage. 

 

Nothing worse than a self loathing Liberal selling out their country. Or in many cases the country that gave them everything. 

Yet more ill informed nonsense.

 

Explain how anyone buys votes from illegals Jonny.

 

 

The USA provided the bombs to starve the Gazans.

I am happy about this development.

I bet none die of starvation though.

For decades, right-wing republicans have advocated the concept concerning poor people:

 

"Let them eat s*it and let them die". 

21 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

No. The US  House of representatives has not authorized spending.

The money that will be taken for SNAP will come form the money  intended to feed children. This is not right. The children's funding must not be  taken.

Ah yes, the mysterious “children’s food fund” ... it's hidden somewhere between the Tooth Fairy’s 401(k) and Santa’s pension plan.

Hate to break it to you, but SNAP is the program that feeds millions of children. There isn’t some separate, magical stash of “kid-only grocery money” waiting to be tapped. When you cut SNAP, you’re literally taking food off the plates of those same kids you claim to be protecting.

3 hours ago, Galong said:

Ah yes, the mysterious “children’s food fund” ... it's hidden somewhere between the Tooth Fairy’s 401(k) and Santa’s pension plan.

Hate to break it to you, but SNAP is the program that feeds millions of children. There isn’t some separate, magical stash of “kid-only grocery money” waiting to be tapped. When you cut SNAP, you’re literally taking food off the plates of those same kids you claim to be protecting.

 

You don't understand the benefits programs do you?  There are specific children's food assistance programs and SNAP is not one of them, and never was. There is an assumption that  SNAP aka food stamps feeds children, and it comes from the fact that a large number of the beneficiaries are families. Unfortunately, the SNAP program is not as directed, nor as focused as the specific child aid programs. It is dominated by adult beneficiaries. Under SNAP, the benefits can be used to purchase junk food like soda, cakes, cookies, potato chips. This is not done with the other programs. There are 4 ongoing programs that specifically feed children in the USA.  In fiscal year 2024, a total of 9.3 billion meals were served through the National School Lunch Program, the School Breakfast Program, the Child and Adult Care Food Program, and the Summer Food Service Program combined, at a cost of $28.2 billion. These are prepared and minimize the exposure to junk food.

 

Some people will suffer if the SNAP funding is not there. Most will be adults. Children are still accessing food through  their  specific programs which are drawing down on the contingency funds. A  draw down on the contingency funds to support SNAP, will reduce the amount available to those funds.

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Explain how anyone buys votes from illegals Jonny.

 

They let them into the country, then let them work illegally, promise them a route to full citizenship, then let them vote without any ID.

 

Ref. the Dems under Biden/Harris.  

 

Any more questions?

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

They let them into the country, then let them work illegally, promise them a route to full citizenship, then let them vote without any ID.

 

Ref. the Dems under Biden/Harris.  

 

Any more questions?

Utter hogwash Jonny.

 

I doubt you believe it yourself or even care that it’s a baseless fiction.

Sad really.

 

On 11/3/2025 at 6:43 PM, JimHuaHin said:

Trump - a Christian?  Clearly he has never read the Bible.

 

The Bible ('buy bull') is a hotchpotch of contradictions written by decepticons to fool the masses.

 

Nothing to do with Trumpsky.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Utter hogwash Jonny.

 

I doubt you believe it yourself or even care that it’s a baseless fiction.

Sad really.

 

 

Six million voters suddenly appeared in 2020 to elect Biden and then disappeared just as quickly in a puff of smoke. 

 

We both know what happened Chomps.

 

 

 

 

On 11/4/2025 at 3:08 AM, impulse said:

Sadly, I'm in agreement with the oddsmakers giving about a 50:50 chance of a war in the streets of the US and UK.  I hope we're wrong.

 

Makes no difference to me who makes the rules in the end.

 

The best time to load up on real estate bargains is when the blood's flowing in the gutters.

On 11/6/2025 at 1:48 AM, Patong2021 said:

 

You don't understand the benefits programs do you?  There are specific children's food assistance programs and SNAP is not one of them, and never was. There is an assumption that  SNAP aka food stamps feeds children, and it comes from the fact that a large number of the beneficiaries are families. Unfortunately, the SNAP program is not as directed, nor as focused as the specific child aid programs. It is dominated by adult beneficiaries. Under SNAP, the benefits can be used to purchase junk food like soda, cakes, cookies, potato chips. This is not done with the other programs. There are 4 ongoing programs that specifically feed children in the USA.  In fiscal year 2024, a total of 9.3 billion meals were served through the National School Lunch Program, the School Breakfast Program, the Child and Adult Care Food Program, and the Summer Food Service Program combined, at a cost of $28.2 billion. These are prepared and minimize the exposure to junk food.

 

Some people will suffer if the SNAP funding is not there. Most will be adults. Children are still accessing food through  their  specific programs which are drawing down on the contingency funds. A  draw down on the contingency funds to support SNAP, will reduce the amount available to those funds.

Yeah, actually I do.  The claim that SNAP is dominated by adult beneficiaries is hilariously backward; roughly two-thirds of all SNAP funding goes to households with children, the elderly, or people with disabilities, and historically, children are the majority of all individual beneficiaries. So, yes, surprise, SNAP is very much a children's food program.
 

Also, the notion that these federal programs are all duking it out for a tiny slice of "contingency funds" is misplaced drama. SNAP and the school meal programs are generally entitlement programs, meaning they're funded separately and guaranteed to pay out for every eligible person, not drawing down from a common, finite pot. The only thing they're competing for is who can serve the most needy families.

I'd say "nice try", but it really wasn't.

54 minutes ago, Galong said:

Yeah, actually I do.  The claim that SNAP is dominated by adult beneficiaries is hilariously backward; roughly two-thirds of all SNAP funding goes to households with children, the elderly, or people with disabilities, and historically, children are the majority of all individual beneficiaries. So, yes, surprise, SNAP is very much a children's food program.
 

Also, the notion that these federal programs are all duking it out for a tiny slice of "contingency funds" is misplaced drama. SNAP and the school meal programs are generally entitlement programs, meaning they're funded separately and guaranteed to pay out for every eligible person, not drawing down from a common, finite pot. The only thing they're competing for is who can serve the most needy families.

I'd say "nice try", but it really wasn't.

Entitlements must still be funded and if the funds are  not available, then the entitlements cannot be paid.  The government has already agreed to pay  SNAP. The problem and delay that arises is in the manner of how  it  will be paid. The federal government says it fulfilled its duty by transfer to state agencies who disburse the funds. The Plaintiffs and the Judge say no. The Judge says that  his initial order is only satisfied when the  beneficiaries receive the funds. You have missed this point. I anticipate that the  federal government will appeal the order for that reason. 

 

I am not wrong about the funding basis.  Please refer to the RI  ruling.  U.S. District Judge John McConnell said the government could transfer $4 billion from the Child Nutritional Program to fully fund SNAP benefits 

 

For reference sake, the court case was brought by  RHODE ISLAND STATE COUNCIL OF CHURCHES; NATIONAL COUNCIL OF NONPROFITS; SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION; MAIN STREET ALLIANCE; CITY OF CENTRAL FALLS; CITY OF PAWTUCKET; CITY OF PROVIDENCE; CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE; CITY OF BALTIMORE; CITY OF COLUMBUS; CITY OF DURHAM; CITY OF NEW HAVEN; AMOS HOUSE; DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. COMMUNITY CENTER; EAST BAY COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM; FEDERAL HILL HOUSE ASSOCIATION; THE MILAGROS PROJECT; UNITED WAY OF RHODE ISLAND; NEW YORK LEGAL ASSISTANCE GROUP; BLACK SHEEP MARKET, entities which have an interest in the program continuing.

 

The judge stated that the funding is based upon the use of contingency funds. On November 1, 2025, he gave the  federal administration two options;  First, the Defendants could, within their discretion, use Section 32 funds, contingency funds, or both to fully fund November SNAP benefits.   Second, the Defendants could use contingency funds to make a partial payment of SNAP benefits. The government stated that they would partially fund SNAP by using $4.65 billion in contingency funds to cover 50% of the benefits due to each SNAP. At the beginning of Fiscal Year 2026, there was a total of $6 billion in SNAP contingency funds. The Food and Nutrition Service (“FNS”) used $450 million from those funds for SNAP State agencies’ administrative expenses and an additional $300 million for the Nutrition Assistance Program (“NAP”) block grants for Puerto Rico and American Samoa.  The defendants stated that “USDA has determined not to use Section 32 Child Nutrition Program funds or other funds to provide full SNAP payments for the month of November.”   Their reasoning behind electing not to fully fund the program was that doing so: (1) “stray[s] from Congressional intent” that Section 32 funds “be used only for Child Nutrition Programs”; (2) would leave a “$4 billion gap” in Child Nutrition Program funding that “Congress would not replenish … with annual appropriations”; and (3) “would leave 8 Child Nutrition Programs, which feed no fewer than 29 million children, with an unprecedented and significant shortfall.”

 

The  dispute now is over how the benefits will be delivered. The court is imposing a questionable burden in respect to the delivery of the benefits. If there are no government workers available to process the payments, how can they be processed?

 

There is a reason why the biggest supporters of SNAP benefits are  large corporations. Walmart stated  that in 2018 it received 20% of revenues  from SNAP payments. Coca Cola, Pepsi-Frito-Lay.  When the    emergency boost to SNAP was  stopped in 2024,  Kraft Heinz reported that its  Kraft Heinz does not disclose its specific revenue from SNAP benefits, but reports indicate that its sales tied to SNAP purchases decreased to 13% from 20%.  walmart's revenues tied to SNAP purchases is  estimated to be 20%. SNAP should be renamed the large food retailer and processor subsidy program.

 

6 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Entitlements must still be funded and if the funds are  not available, then the entitlements cannot be paid.  The government has already agreed to pay  SNAP. The problem and delay that arises is in the manner of how  it  will be paid. The federal government says it fulfilled its duty by transfer to state agencies who disburse the funds. The Plaintiffs and the Judge say no. The Judge says that  his initial order is only satisfied when the  beneficiaries receive the funds. You have missed this point. I anticipate that the  federal government will appeal the order for that reason. 

 

I am not wrong about the funding basis.  Please refer to the RI  ruling.  U.S. District Judge John McConnell said the government could transfer $4 billion from the Child Nutritional Program to fully fund SNAP benefits 

 

For reference sake, the court case was brought by  RHODE ISLAND STATE COUNCIL OF CHURCHES; NATIONAL COUNCIL OF NONPROFITS; SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION; MAIN STREET ALLIANCE; CITY OF CENTRAL FALLS; CITY OF PAWTUCKET; CITY OF PROVIDENCE; CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE; CITY OF BALTIMORE; CITY OF COLUMBUS; CITY OF DURHAM; CITY OF NEW HAVEN; AMOS HOUSE; DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. COMMUNITY CENTER; EAST BAY COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM; FEDERAL HILL HOUSE ASSOCIATION; THE MILAGROS PROJECT; UNITED WAY OF RHODE ISLAND; NEW YORK LEGAL ASSISTANCE GROUP; BLACK SHEEP MARKET, entities which have an interest in the program continuing.

 

The judge stated that the funding is based upon the use of contingency funds. On November 1, 2025, he gave the  federal administration two options;  First, the Defendants could, within their discretion, use Section 32 funds, contingency funds, or both to fully fund November SNAP benefits.   Second, the Defendants could use contingency funds to make a partial payment of SNAP benefits. The government stated that they would partially fund SNAP by using $4.65 billion in contingency funds to cover 50% of the benefits due to each SNAP. At the beginning of Fiscal Year 2026, there was a total of $6 billion in SNAP contingency funds. The Food and Nutrition Service (“FNS”) used $450 million from those funds for SNAP State agencies’ administrative expenses and an additional $300 million for the Nutrition Assistance Program (“NAP”) block grants for Puerto Rico and American Samoa.  The defendants stated that “USDA has determined not to use Section 32 Child Nutrition Program funds or other funds to provide full SNAP payments for the month of November.”   Their reasoning behind electing not to fully fund the program was that doing so: (1) “stray[s] from Congressional intent” that Section 32 funds “be used only for Child Nutrition Programs”; (2) would leave a “$4 billion gap” in Child Nutrition Program funding that “Congress would not replenish … with annual appropriations”; and (3) “would leave 8 Child Nutrition Programs, which feed no fewer than 29 million children, with an unprecedented and significant shortfall.”

 

The  dispute now is over how the benefits will be delivered. The court is imposing a questionable burden in respect to the delivery of the benefits. If there are no government workers available to process the payments, how can they be processed?

 

There is a reason why the biggest supporters of SNAP benefits are  large corporations. Walmart stated  that in 2018 it received 20% of revenues  from SNAP payments. Coca Cola, Pepsi-Frito-Lay.  When the    emergency boost to SNAP was  stopped in 2024,  Kraft Heinz reported that its  Kraft Heinz does not disclose its specific revenue from SNAP benefits, but reports indicate that its sales tied to SNAP purchases decreased to 13% from 20%.  walmart's revenues tied to SNAP purchases is  estimated to be 20%. SNAP should be renamed the large food retailer and processor subsidy program.

 

Oh boy, where to start.
 

“Entitlements can’t be paid if funds aren’t available.” That's just adorable... as if Congress doesn’t routinely pull money out of thin air for wars, tax cuts, and bailouts. Apparently, feeding people is where fiscal discipline suddenly shows up. Are you OK with this prioritizing?
 

“The government already fulfilled its duty by transferring funds to the states.”  Um, sure, because passing the buck counts as compassion. Try telling your landlord you “transferred rent responsibilities” to your neighbor.
 

“The issue is how it’s paid.”  I'll translate that for you: bureaucratic hot potato with hungry people in the middle.
 

“The Judge says payment isn’t complete until beneficiaries receive funds.”  Shocking that a judge thinks paying people means actually paying them.
 

“I’m not wrong about the funding basis.”  Always a strong argument when you have to declare it yourself. 🤪
 

“SNAP should be renamed the large food retailer subsidy program.” Finally, something we can agree on. Walmart thanks you for your patriotism.

On 11/5/2025 at 1:49 PM, JonnyF said:

 

The food stampers vote Dem. 

 

That's if they can be bothered to get off "Dey Fad Ayezz" to vote at all. 

 

Everyone knows that the left buy votes from the poor and illegals via handouts. That's why they always promise extra handouts at election time. 

 

The fact that it weakens the country is a bonus because they hate themselves and their heritage. 

 

Nothing worse than a self loathing Liberal selling out their country. Or in many cases the country that gave them everything. 

Thanks for the laugh... 

On 11/4/2025 at 7:54 AM, impulse said:

The Dem shutdown has provided an opportunity to publicly discuss the waste and fraud in SNAP.   It's about time to clean that up.  Decades past time.

 

The  NY dems can publicly discuss  their waste, fraud and constituents money calamity while  in the tropics as their NYC constituents are suffering from the thumbs down dem party to open up the Govt.  NYorkers sure are  gluttons for punishment. Think of all that money wasted ,when they could of stayed in NY and used the travel expenses to help their cause. 

 

"New York’s Democrats — from state lawmakers to City Hall aides to union power brokers — decamp to San Juan every November for a long weekend of panels and receptions, schmoozing and dealmaking. With more than 4,000 attendees, the Somos conference doubles as the New York political world’s unofficial family reunion, and this year the family member with the newest and unlikeliest win was its biggest draw".

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/06/mamdani-gets-the-star-treatment-in-puerto-rico-00641543?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

5 hours ago, Galong said:

Oh boy, where to start.
 

“Entitlements can’t be paid if funds aren’t available.” That's just adorable... as if Congress doesn’t routinely pull money out of thin air for wars, tax cuts, and bailouts. Apparently, feeding people is where fiscal discipline suddenly shows up. Are you OK with this prioritizing?
 

“The government already fulfilled its duty by transferring funds to the states.”  Um, sure, because passing the buck counts as compassion. Try telling your landlord you “transferred rent responsibilities” to your neighbor.
 

“The issue is how it’s paid.”  I'll translate that for you: bureaucratic hot potato with hungry people in the middle.
 

“The Judge says payment isn’t complete until beneficiaries receive funds.”  Shocking that a judge thinks paying people means actually paying them.
 

“I’m not wrong about the funding basis.”  Always a strong argument when you have to declare it yourself. 🤪
 

“SNAP should be renamed the large food retailer subsidy program.” Finally, something we can agree on. Walmart thanks you for your patriotism.

 

You are attempting to apply a general operating characteristic of a government, to the unique circumstances of the current operational shutdown.  It is not business as usual.  Mush of the government is shut down and not operating.The people who oversee transfers, administration, clerical and even IT functions are not working.  At least 670,000 federal employees are furloughed  All the wonderful services and benefit services of the government  will not function fully if the personnel are not there to run them. Some people complain about government bloat, but they are now seeing the importance of government workers as services are curtailed and withdrawn.

 

Congress  is not routinely pulling funds out to fund anything now, because many of the people who execute those collections are not there to do it, and many of the people who administer those programs have been furloughed. The money  to fund SNAP and other benefits was in large part already collected and  budgeted for. They are held in the general government fund and contingency subfund. However, the contingency fund supports multiple benefit programs and the necessary amount to fund everything is not immediately available. This is the tragic consequence of a  government shutdown. I am not defending the non funding, but am explaining the difficulties that the shutdown has caused.

 

Nor am I arguing against the judge's ruling. I read his ruling and I understand its merits. The man is the chief judge of the Rhode Island district federal court and knows what he is doing. However, he is imposing an order that is difficult to execute because some of the funds are not available and more specifically, because the federal personnel are not there to make it happen.   This is why I believe that the Trump administration will be able to delay implementation of the court ruling.

 

Now, if you want to criticize the Trump administration motive for doing that, I believe that you would have a valid argument. The judge made his views known on this and offered that the  inability to effect the funding  because of the shutdown was political in nature, an intentional action, which is why he  issued his order.The Trump administration will most likely dispute that conclusion when it appeals the order.

On 11/6/2025 at 8:20 AM, JonnyF said:

 

They let them into the country, then let them work illegally, promise them a route to full citizenship, then let them vote without any ID.

 

Ref. the Dems under Biden/Harris.  

 

Any more questions?

Coming from a POM

18 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Coming from a POM

 

 

Most good things do...

12 hours ago, still kicking said:

Coming from a POM

 

I oppose the Democrats pathetic stance/inaction on illegal immigration just as much as I oppose Labour's pathetic stance/inaction.

 

So what's your point Bruce? Maybe best you grab some sandpaper but don't get caught we dont want any more tears Smithy. 

 

 

On 11/4/2025 at 10:31 AM, Emdog said:

I expect to hear from Health Czar RFK jr promoting a new, cost free, health tip:

Odd/even fasting program. Eat one day, skip the next... easy to remember (did I eat yesterday? hmmm)  and will stretch those half benefits out to last entire month!

And will you publicly lead the way?

22 hours ago, billd766 said:

And will you publicly lead the way?

I probably should.... have put on some weight, but just read that metaformin (diabetes onset resistor drug) can lead to weight gain hard to get rid of....