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Travel Chaos Hits US Airports as Govt Shutdown Grounds Flights

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6 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Winning.

What would you and Kamala know about that you white guys for Harris are an embarrassment to good honest men you are the reason foreigners laugh at the west you should be ashamed to humiliate the rest of us but you are proud that’s the problem 

 

good times create weak men like you 

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1 hour ago, EastBayRay said:

Nasty democrat politicians 

 

leftists can only destroy 

 

never build anything 

 

just rip it down 

 

evil

Like the east wing?

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18 minutes ago, EastBayRay said:

What would you and Kamala know about that you white guys for Harris are an embarrassment to good honest men you are the reason foreigners laugh at the west you should be ashamed to humiliate the rest of us but you are proud that’s the problem 

 

good times create weak men like you 


Are you ok buddy? Been a long day?

"White guys for Harris"? 

There's only one reason most of the world is laughing at America, and believe me, it isn't me. (Hint: it is orange)

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:


Are you ok buddy? Been a long day?

"White guys for Harris"? 

There's only one reason most of the world is laughing at America, and believe me, it isn't me. (Hint: it is orange)

I suspect a lot of them are mourning……but we will be back once we excise this cancer.

Trump and his supporters will of course blame the Democrats for all of this.

   Just remember this is also his fault, just like the tariffs are also his fault. Boycotts

are what other parts of the world are doing to the USA because of Trump and his gang.

IMO

On 11/8/2025 at 7:44 PM, Fact said:

It takes 60 votes to move a bill out of the Senate. 

In 1975 the Senate reduced the number of votes required for cloture * from two-thirds of senators voting to three-fifths of all senators duly chosen and sworn, or 60 of the 100-member Senate.

* meaning no filibuster

 

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/filibusters-cloture.htm

 

It still takes only 51 votes or 50% + 1 to pass a bill.

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

In 1975 the Senate reduced the number of votes required for cloture * from two-thirds of senators voting to three-fifths of all senators duly chosen and sworn, or 60 of the 100-member Senate.

* meaning no filibuster

 

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/filibusters-cloture.htm

 

It still takes only 51 votes or 50% + 1 to pass a bill.

Chuck Schumer is blocking the CR.  

3 hours ago, Stargeezr said:

Trump and his supporters will of course blame the Democrats for all of this.

   Just remember this is also his fault, just like the tariffs are also his fault. Boycotts

are what other parts of the world are doing to the USA because of Trump and his gang.

IMO

The Democrats should be blamed for this mess. 

8 hours ago, still kicking said:

Like the east wing?

It going be Build Back Better. 

6 minutes ago, Fact said:

Chuck Schumer is blocking the CR.  

Yes dear. I was only stating that that which was stated as a fact is not a fact.

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Yes dear. I was only stating that that which was stated as a fact is not a fact.

Sorry honey it takes 60 votes for move the bill. 

9 minutes ago, Fact said:

Sorry honey it takes 60 votes for move the bill. 

It takes 60 votes to block a filibuster. It takes 51 votes to pass bill.

 

If the majority proposed a bipartisan bill it doesn't need 60 votes.

 

From NY Times just now:

 

The Senate appeared to be creeping toward a breakthrough that could end the government shutdown after Senator John Thune, Republican of South Dakota and the majority leader, told reporters at the Capitol that a spending deal was “coming together” and could receive a test vote as early as Sunday evening.

 

His comments came as a bipartisan group of moderate senators have been huddling to find a path out of the shutdown. 

On 11/8/2025 at 7:44 PM, Fact said:

It takes 60 votes to move a bill out of the Senate. 

Correct so, unlike in the House, the majority (currently Republicans) are required to reach an agreement with the minority. Where is that negotiated agreement? Can’t just pass with , “ our way or the Highway”. Frustrating Republicans … as they have been told not to negotiate by trump.  Him going so far as to tell Republican Senators to get ride of the filibuster (the need to get 60 votes thus requiring some Democrat support).

On 11/8/2025 at 7:31 AM, JimHuaHin said:

Thank you President Trump and the 70-odd million intelligent thoughtful Americans who voted for you.

 

If he won by such a massive, mind bogglingly huge landslide.....presumably the biggliest in history that anyone has ever seen, how come things are so finely balanced????

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3 hours ago, Fact said:

Chuck Schumer is blocking the CR.  

Schumer is negotiating and Trump is blocking. 

On 11/9/2025 at 7:49 AM, Fact said:

I did, should use a crayon font for your sake? 

 

'Fact'. 555

 

Do you hope we'll think you're 'facting' like Trump 'truths'. Listening to Bessent the other day saying Trump had 'truthed' some egregiously false inanity or other.

 

Cheap attempts to set an awful agenda of misery for the majority.

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

If he won by such a massive, mind bogglingly huge landslide.....presumably the biggliest in history that anyone has ever seen, how come things are so finely balanced????

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Sadly the short answer to your reasonable question is the same as that for the UK: because the electoral system is utterly screwed up and not fit for purpose in the high-tech, instant communication, global 21st century.

 

The US system was brought in in the 18th century, the UK early 19th century. Back then they were great leaps forward in the enlightenment, democracy and the rule of law. 

 

Today ... not so much 555. They would have to be reformed first to get a genuinely democratically elected government in place, representing over 50%, which is the precondition for tackling the real needs of the people. Decent health care anyone?

 

But maybe the US is happy with its Putinesque dystopia and the military on the streets already like Northern Ireland in the 70s? 

 

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