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Uncropped photo of Andrew and Virginia clearly shows a thumb

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Uncropped photo of Andrew and Virginia clearly shows a thumb on the edge of the picture  

 

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One of the most notorious images linked to Jeffrey Epstein has resurfaced with renewed scrutiny, after an uncropped version revealed a mysterious thumb in the corner of the photograph — raising fresh questions about who was behind the camera.

 

The image shows Prince Andrew, now styled Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, standing with then-teenager Virginia Roberts, later known as Virginia Giuffre. The photograph, believed to date from March 2001, is among the most infamous items recovered from Epstein’s personal collection.

 

Andrew has repeatedly denied any memory of the photograph being taken or of meeting Giuffre, who was 17 at the time. He has even suggested the image may have been manipulated. However, Giuffre consistently maintained that the photo was taken at Ghislaine Maxwell’s Belgravia home after a night out at Tramp nightclub in Mayfair.

 

The newly circulated uncropped version reveals a thumb at the bottom right of the frame, sparking speculation about the identity of the photographer. British tabloids have suggested Epstein himself may have taken the photo, though this has never been proven.

 

Giuffre, widely regarded as the central whistleblower in the Epstein scandal, died by suicide in April 2025. Her memoir, Nobody’s Girl, was published posthumously later that year. Before her death, she accused Andrew of sexually abusing her on three occasions while she was underage — allegations he has always categorically denied.

 

In a now-infamous 2019 BBC Newsnight interview, Andrew rejected Giuffre’s claims, insisting he had “no recollection” of ever meeting her. He cited an alibi involving a visit to Pizza Express in Woking with his daughter and claimed a medical condition prevented him from sweating, contradicting Giuffre’s account.

 

Andrew later reached a civil settlement with Giuffre in 2022 without admitting liability. The photograph remains a powerful and unresolved symbol of the Epstein scandal — one that continues to cast a long shadow.

 

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  • An uncropped Epstein photo of Prince Andrew reveals a mysterious thumb, reviving speculation.

  • Virginia Giuffre said Epstein himself took the image after a night out in London.

  • Andrew has consistently denied the allegations and any memory of the encounter.

 

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  • The newly circulated uncropped version reveals a thumb at the bottom right of the frame, sparking speculation about the identity of the photographer.   Up until now, I wonder how they though

  • So the photo was taken in London in Belgravia and "Giuffre, who was 17 at the time".     Given the age of consent in UK is 16 why all the condemnation of Andrew.  

  • A naked thumb no less.

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The newly circulated uncropped version reveals a thumb at the bottom right of the frame, sparking speculation about the identity of the photographer.

 

Up until now, I wonder how they thought the photo was taken?

5 minutes ago, Social Media said:

raising fresh questions about who was behind the camera.

 

David Bailey ???

If this is a manipulated and cropped photo as many claim why would the cropper not just take out the thumb? much easier I would have thought than inserting Andrew in the image, casts a lot of doubt on the claim that it is photoshopped.   

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A naked thumb no less.

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Ghislaine Maxwell has stated in the news, that snap was photoshopped & fake.  Really no reason for her to lie :coffee1:

 

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-claims-photo-prince-andrew-accuser-virginia-giuffre-fake/

 

I just made this snap, within the edit time, with free online software ...

... which of course we all know, the original photo was Trump all along :cheesy:

 

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Guardian article behind paywall

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So the photo was taken in London in Belgravia and "Giuffre, who was 17 at the time".  

 

Given the age of consent in UK is 16 why all the condemnation of Andrew.  

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15 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

So the photo was taken in London in Belgravia and "Giuffre, who was 17 at the time".  

 

Given the age of consent in UK is 16 why all the condemnation of Andrew.  

 

 

Anyone under 18 engaging in prostitution is considered a victim of child sexual exploitation, and the law treats them as needing protection rather than as an offender.......this, of course ,assumes this what was happening......maybe they were just friends?

21 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

So the photo was taken in London in Belgravia and "Giuffre, who was 17 at the time".  

 

Given the age of consent in UK is 16 why all the condemnation of Andrew.  

My thoughts entirely, she's not in handcuffs and could presumably have walked away anytime....gone to the police even but she was underaged for prostitution at the time so being a victim of trafficking was a better option... worked a treat, Andrew had to pay millions, not that I feel sorry for the scrote. 

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

The newly circulated uncropped version reveals a thumb at the bottom right of the frame, sparking speculation about the identity of the photographer.

 

Up until now, I wonder how they thought the photo was taken?

Yeah,it seems silly.  The flash in the window in the background too. Of. Course somebody took the photo. As far as what house it was in, it shouldn't be too hard to compare the photo with other photos that were known to have been taken in that house. 

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Virginia Giuffre was a prostitute and liar who perjured herself in court and lost a case against Dershowitz because she demonstrably lied under oath.

 

Nothing connected with Giuffre can be taken at face value as this whore was one of the biggest liars the world has ever seen.  

 

Her family still enjoys the millions she exorted via blackmail from the royal family.

1 hour ago, johng said:

David Bailey ???

Too many clothes for David Hamilton...

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1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Ghislaine Maxwell has stated in the news, that snap was photoshopped & fake.  Really no reason for her to lie :coffee1:

 

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-claims-photo-prince-andrew-accuser-virginia-giuffre-fake/

 

I just made this snap, within the edit time, with free online software ...

... which of course we all know, the original photo was Trump all along :cheesy:

 

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Guardian article behind paywall

No paywall to any Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/22/ghislaine-maxwell-prince-andrew-photo-virginia-giuffre-epstein

 

Reason to lie?!? Give me a break! A pardon, of course.

1 hour ago, CatCage said:

If this is a manipulated and cropped photo as many claim why would the cropper not just take out the thumb? much easier I would have thought than inserting Andrew in the image, casts a lot of doubt on the claim that it is photoshopped.   

Damn! Another bloody cropper!

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2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

The newly circulated uncropped version reveals a thumb at the bottom right of the frame, sparking speculation about the identity of the photographer.

 

Up until now, I wonder how they thought the photo was taken?

 

Given that it's Epstein's house whose to say the appendage is a thumb?

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Charles no doubt thinking:

 

Will no one rid me of this turbulent meddlesome prince?

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

One of the most notorious images linked to Jeffrey Epstein has resurfaced with renewed scrutiny, after an uncropped version revealed a mysterious thumb in the corner of the photograph — raising fresh questions about who was behind the camera.

Perhaps highly specialized forensics can clean up the photo and get the thumb print and see who is in the reflection of the window behind the camera flash to satisfy those who are overly obsessed with this mystery subject.

On 12/20/2025 at 1:59 PM, VocalNeal said:

Given the age of consent in UK is 16 why all the condemnation of Andrew.  

 

Because he's a <deleted>.

 

 

A rich <deleted>. 

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Who the <deleted> cares? Really...no one is alleging he's a paedophile. She's clearly a woman ... that flew half way round the world to have sex for money . 

 

Epstein is about Mossad, CIA FBI Big Finance, money laundering, Ehud Barak security sw... 

I suppose we can assume that the presence of the thumb rather rules out a professional photographer?

On 12/20/2025 at 9:20 AM, MarcusAurelius said:

Epstein is about Mossad, CIA FBI Big Finance, money laundering, Ehud Barak security sw... 

 

 

Look into the Robert Maxwell connection(s). 

 

Robert Maxwell was the tycoon owner of the Mirror Group. He was of Czech origin, and fled to Britain during WW2. He reputedly spied for the British intelligence services, Israel and the KGB. He was found dead after apparently asking Israel for more money. He had been plundering the Mirror Group's pension fund of £460m, and was heavily in debt. Overall, £800m went missing.

 

Epstein's business partner Steven Hoffenberg says he introduced Epstein to Robert Maxwell in the late 80s. Epstein apparently consipired to offshore "his" money. Ghislaine Maxwell met Epstein in July 1991. In November 1991, Robert Maxwell "fell" from his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine. Ghislaine Maxwell was on the boat at the time of her father's death, Reports indicate she found papers aboard referring to Epstein, and had them shredded.

 

Coincidently, Donald Trump met Robert Maxwell aboard the Lady Ghislaine in 1989, related to a possible book deal that never went through.

 

Among the recent so-called Epstein files is an email sent by Ghislaine to Epstein saying how whe was apparently speaking with "CIA Agents" about recovering the lost £800m.

 

Captain Bob had long been sympathetic to Israel, having been involved in gun running in 1948 to the new state. By the mid-50s, the FBI suspected he was a Soviet spy. MI6 knew about his Soviet links, and funded his publishing business, because they thought it would give them access to Soviet scientific literature. Mossad recruited him in the 1970s, regarding theft of some US intelligence marketing software, with a "bugged" version being sold back to key US institutions incuding nuclear research labs.

 

https://publish.obsidian.md/watcher/History/US-Israel+Intelligence+Interface

 

That way Mossad could penetrate and steal US defence secrets. Israel spying on the US is not new; eg Jonathan Pollard. Mossad allegedly traded stolen secrets with the KGB in order to secure exit visas for Jewish dissidants in th USSR

 

https://www.merip.org/1990/01/blitzer-territory-of-lies/

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/12/14/Soviet-spies-infiltrate-Mossad-sources-say/5861566456400/


 

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A Justice Department source said U.S. counterintelligence agents became aware of the Israeli-Soviet espionage pipeline when data stolen by Jonathan Jay Pollard, a U.S. Navy analyst convicted of spying for Israel, was 'traced to the Eastern bloc.'

Intelligence sources said data reaching the Soviets via this route included sensitive U.S. weapons technology and strategic information about the defense forces of Turkey, Pakistan and moderate Arab countries, including Saudi Arabia.

U.S. intelligence analysts said the Pollard data was traded to the Soviets in return for promises to increase emigration of Soviet Jews to Israel.

One analyst said Israel's 'right-wing' Jews are involved with spying for the Soviets and called it 'ironic,' noting that left-wing elements were responsible for similar scandals in the past.

A senior U.S. official said morale in Mossad 'had plummeted' but refused to comment on whether the breach had damaged U.S.-Israeli intelligence ties.

 

 

 

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/

 

Certainly murky/

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On 12/20/2025 at 3:51 PM, Packer said:

 

Because he's a <deleted>.

 

 

A rich <deleted>. 

Is that grounds to have him vilified and ruined? I agree, he is a rich prik, but on those grounds why not ruin all rich people hey. He allegedly did a willing 17y old; woopy do, happens all the time. Money changed hands? She knew exactly what she was doing. 

If Epstein's house and island were full of video cameras, including in the bedrooms, why have no videos been released that show Andrew getting up to hanky panky with a nude underage girl?

On 12/20/2025 at 1:15 PM, johng said:

 

David Bailey ???

 

   Who's he ?

5 minutes ago, Purdey said:

If Epstein's house and island were full of video cameras, including in the bedrooms, why have no videos been released that show Andrew getting up to hanky panky with a nude underage girl?

Why have no videos been released, period.

On 12/20/2025 at 1:31 PM, CatCage said:

If this is a manipulated and cropped photo as many claim why would the cropper not just take out the thumb? much easier I would have thought than inserting Andrew in the image, casts a lot of doubt on the claim that it is photoshopped.   

It is SOOO easy these days to álter' a photograph, change a head, facial expression. But not so in 2001.

44 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

It is SOOO easy these days to álter' a photograph, change a head, facial expression. But not so in 2001.

It was very easy then also.  My wife can alter any photo, and you'd never know with just photoshop, and nothing compared to some software available now & then.  People don't even have to do it now, just enter 2 or more photo and computer will generate it for you.

 

Here's 2005 snap over EC & me  :cheesy:

 

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1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

It was very easy then also.  My wife can alter any photo, and you'd never know with just photoshop, and nothing compared to some software available now & then.  People don't even have to do it now, just enter 2 or more photo and computer will generate it for you.

 

Here's 2005 snap over EC & me  :cheesy:

 

ec and me.jpg

It certainly looks to be Photoshopped.

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