2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I've been extremely vocal for many years in my opposition to Netanyahu and many of his actions

Respect, I applaud you. However, the Israel society obviously want and agree with his racist policies, and his buddies Smotrich and Ben Gvir. Despicable creatures.

On 2/18/2026 at 2:09 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

The Jewish groups sponsoring the camps are hugely pro-Israel. B’nai Brith, Camp Mossad (Hebrew immersion), Canadian Young Judaea, Habunim Dror, Hashumer Hatzair, United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism (USCJ) are mostly copies of American pro-Israeli groups. No, I wouldn’t send my kids to any of these camps for political reeducation.

These should be classed as terrorist organizations.

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The final solution, huh?

That's laughable when Israel are doing exactly that.

13 minutes ago, JimCM said:

If you said the kids were killed, it would be serious. People like you say nothing when 25,000 Muslims are killed in Gaza, is this anti Islam?

The Muslims killed in Gaza were casualties of war. That's a tragic result of urban warfare in a densely populated area, but it's not anti-Islam. In WWII, hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese civilians were killed by aerial bombing, but those weren't anti-Lutheran or anti-Buddhist or anti-Shinto attacks. All deaths of non-combatants are a terrible aspect of modern war.

The reason the campaign to shut down Jewish summer camps is so serious is that it treats Jews differently than other religious or ethnic groups. The Jewish camps fulfill all the requirements for legal operation of children's summer camps. The anti-Zionist organizations are demanding the licenses be revoked on purely ideological grounds, not because the owners or staff have done anything in violation of Canadian rules or laws. Subjecting Jews to harsher rules than apply to other groups is by definition antisemitic.

7 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

Do you realize the implications of your suggestion that there are "self-hating Jews"? When a non-Jew criticizes Jews, he's an anti-Semite. When a Jew criticizes Jews, he's a "self-hating Jew". The point is that it is always the person who criticizes Jews who is wrong. Never the Jews.

"Gentiles" (as you call us - or "goyim" (cattle), less politely) have no problem criticizing other Gentiles. We do it all the time, and we're not accused of being self-hating Gentiles. (Speaking of which, who besides the Jews divide the world into "us", and "everybody else who is not us" (Jews vs. Gentiles)? That says a lot about how you see the world. "Gentiles" is something you call us. It's not what we call ourselves, and we don't divide the world into Gentiles and Jews.

Great post that none of the Israels will be answering.

They believe they care superior to all others .

The days of not being able to criticise a Jew are long gone. Notice on many other threads people criticism Muslims and it acceptable

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

The Muslims killed in Gaza were casualties of war. That's a tragic result of urban warfare in a densely populated area, but it's not anti-Islam. In WWII, hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese civilians were killed by aerial bombing, but those weren't anti-Lutheran or anti-Buddhist or anti-Shinto attacks. All deaths of non-combatants are a terrible aspect of modern war.

The reason the campaign to shut down Jewish summer camps is so serious is that it treats Jews differently than other religious or ethnic groups. The Jewish camps fulfill all the requirements for legal operation of children's summer camps. The anti-Zionist organizations are demanding the licenses be revoked on purely ideological grounds, not because the owners or staff have done anything in violation of Canadian rules or laws. Subjecting Jews to harsher rules than apply to other groups is by definition antisemitic.

You seem to dismiss civilian casualties as an accident of war. I disagree. The IDF has been profligate in its targetting of children, doctors, journalists, aid workers.

Other religions must also have children's camps. I would denounce their indoctrination just as well.

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

8,500 as of 2021. So what? Is there evidence of persecution. Google tells me there is de facto discrimination, much the same as in many other countries. Such discrimination is not codified as far as I know. Is it in Iran? Jews have one seat in the 290-seat Islamic Cultural Assembly. (This is the first time I've ever heard of a legislative seat being awarded on the basis of religion, well, except for Thailand's senators. Perhaps that single seat was elected.)

Isn't Israel just as much a theocracy as Iran? Iran's constitution (as if that means anything, as in Thailand and the US) guarantees religious freedom for Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians, permitting schools and houses of worship. I would assume, just don't insult Islam. I have seen no news about Iranian Jews taking part in the recent protests and subsequent massacres.

AFAIK, there has been no retaliation against local Jews from Israel's aggression. Likely no kids' Zionist summer camps.

Perhaps you have mistaken my comment as negative to your opinion.

The opposite is the reality because it defies the claim that Iran and Iranians are determined to attack Judaism.

My thoughts are that Judaism and Zionism are the core of the conflict.

To disagree to the actions to the infliction of Zionism's goals as antisemitism is a distortion of Judaism no less than the same distortion accorded to Islamic extremism versus Islamiic moderates.

Externally applied agitations have little to do with any objectives in the interests of humanitarian progress.

Until anti Zionism is identified as genuinely generated within the Israeli population rather than via media claims I will relegate it to political manipulations of intended perception.

34 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

My thoughts are that Judaism and Zionism are the core of the conflict.

Are you defining moderate, secular Judaism as the opposite of Zionism? There isn't a lot of room there. 80% of the population of Israel supports the war against Palestine. I would think that includes all stripes of Israelis, including enlightened intellectuals. Only the conscientious objector 'refuseniks' are doing anything positive against the IDF.

4 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Are you defining moderate, secular Judaism as the opposite of Zionism? There isn't a lot of room there. 80% of the population of Israel supports the war against Palestine. I would think that includes all stripes of Israelis, including enlightened intellectuals. Only the conscientious objector 'refuseniks' are doing anything positive against the IDF.

Can you provide verification of the 80% is from an independent indifferent source ?

Once renewed military events commence there might be doubt caste on such statistics as gazarizatioin is inflicted on Tel Aviv. Win or lose lose.

12 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Can you provide verification of the 80% is from an independent indifferent source ?

Once renewed military events commence there might be doubt caste on such statistics as gazarizatioin is inflicted on Tel Aviv. Win or lose lose.

And nearly HALF support killing them ALL

The survey, conducted in March and published by Haaretz newspaper on Thursday, found that 82 percent of Israeli Jews support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

Meanwhile, 47 percent of Israeli Jews answered yes to the question: "Do you support the claim that the [Israeli army] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants?" The reference is to the biblical account of the conquest of Jericho.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

The Muslims killed in Gaza were casualties of war. That's a tragic result of urban warfare in a densely populated area, but it's not anti-Islam. In WWII, hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese civilians were killed by aerial bombing, but those weren't anti-Lutheran or anti-Buddhist or anti-Shinto attacks. All deaths of non-combatants are a terrible aspect of modern war.

The reason the campaign to shut down Jewish summer camps is so serious is that it treats Jews differently than other religious or ethnic groups. The Jewish camps fulfill all the requirements for legal operation of children's summer camps. The anti-Zionist organizations are demanding the licenses be revoked on purely ideological grounds, not because the owners or staff have done anything in violation of Canadian rules or laws. Subjecting Jews to harsher rules than apply to other groups is by definition antisemitic.

You don't get it. Your country KILLED over 25,000 children and 95 % of schools and universities YET you think it is comparable to closing a summer camp and this is similar to Holocaust photos, you are one deluded &£#@

As long as America will continue to support Israel, the trouble will never Stop.

3 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Can you provide verification of the 80% is from an independent indifferent source ?

Once renewed military events commence there might be doubt caste on such statistics as gazarizatioin is inflicted on Tel Aviv. Win or lose lose.

Google: At present, 94.5% of the Israeli left, 75% of the center, and 48.5% of the right support an end to the fighting. Although many of these opinions relate to further fighting endangering the hostages. This is now a non-issue.

64% think Bibi should resign, either immediately or following the conflict.

Geocartography Knowledge Group—an Israeli think-tank (2025): 82% of Israeli Jews want to see expulsion of all residents of the Gaza Strip to other countries. 54% of Jewish respondents were ‘very supportive’ of this expulsion, an eight-point rise over 2016. 47% favour killing all Gaza’s inhabitants, just like Jericho.

A majority of Jewish Israelis agreed with the Trump plan for Gaza—“forced emigration, transfer, or expulsion by force”.

Peace Index, Tel Aviv University: 62% supported supported evacuations,”even by force and military means”. 70% of Jewish respondents said if Gazans leave, Israel should not allow their return.

For Israelis, Palestinians are synonymous with Hamas. For Palestinians, Israelis should be compared to Nazis. Neither, of course, in entirely true, though both contain a germ of truth.

We can’t forget that every Israeli has a military mindset for a military solution. All Israelis have been conscripted into the IDF.

Off topic deflection posts and replies have been removed.

I'm updating this thread with some reactions to the campaign to shut down Jewish summer camps in Canada.

This is an excellent editorial which ran in the Toronto Sun, a mainstream Canadian newspaper. It explains the discriminatory nature of the campaign very well. Please note it is not a news article.

EDITORIAL: ‘Peace’ activists should leave the kids alone

It is antisemitic to suggest it’s wrong for Jews to raise their children as they see fit

It takes a special kind of twisted logic to drag the Middle East conflict and the Gaza war into the bucolic peace of Canadian children’s summer camps.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-activists-should-leave-kids-alone

Below are the first two sentences of the reaction from the Ontario Camps Association, which is a voluntary, non-profit group that has accredited summer camps since the 1930s. It goes into some detail in refuting the accusations made by the anti-Zionist groups.

Dear Members,

In recent days, the Ontario Camps Association (OCA) Board of Directors became aware of correspondence circulating online related to the current conflict in the Middle East. That correspondence contains statements and expressions that the Board finds deeply concerning and in certain characterizations and claims, we believe reflect rhetoric that is discriminatory and antisemitic in nature.

https://ontariocampsassociation.ca/about/special-statements/

Another reaction, from Quebec Senator Leo Housakos on his official "X" account:

"This is a new low. Tell me again how going after Jewish kids at summer camp has anything to do with geopolitics? Let’s call it what it is: antisemitism, plain and simple."

https://x.com/SenatorHousakos/status/2023482666344214553

Housakos is the leader of the Opposition in the Senate of Quebec. I have to agree with him; the campaign against Jewish camps is antisemitism, plain and simple.

8 hours ago, JimCM said:

You don't get it. Your country KILLED over 25,000 children and 95 % of schools and universities YET you think it is comparable to closing a summer camp and this is similar to Holocaust photos, you are one deluded &£#@

There's nothing to get. The deaths of children in any armed conflict are as huge a tragedy as can be. But that doesn't diminish the need to call attention to less serious injustices aimed at children. Because children starve in Somalia or Sudan doesn't mean we should ignore poor nutrition among North American children.

In a similar vein, the deaths of Palestinian children in the Gaza war don't mean we should ignore discrimination against Jewish children in Canada. Quebec Senator Leo Housakos has written that " it needs to be dealt with before children get hurt." https://x.com/SenatorHousakos/status/2023482666344214553

I wrote that the targeting of Jewish children brought back images of the ultimate step in such targeting, children in concentration camps. We have to stop antisemitic campaigns before they become normalized and turn into something much worse.

I may be a &£#@, but I'm not deluded. I actually like the sound of &£#@, although you could have added a few dollar signs for good luck. &£#@$$$ is much better.

On 2/18/2026 at 6:57 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

Unis were cracking down of protestors disrupting other students education and cracking down on protestors causing blockages and criminal damage and trespassing .

The protestors are still free to protest , just keep off private property and do not commit any crimes

Meanwhile, crimes like the illegal occupation of land that doesn't belong to you is ok.

11 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Meanwhile, crimes like the illegal occupation of land that doesn't belong to you is ok.

Meanwhile, Iran getting Nuclear weapons is OK ?

5 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

There's nothing to get. The deaths of children in any armed conflict are as huge a tragedy as can be. But that doesn't diminish the need to call attention to less serious injustices aimed at children. Because children starve in Somalia or Sudan doesn't mean we should ignore poor nutrition among North American children.

In a similar vein, the deaths of Palestinian children in the Gaza war don't mean we should ignore discrimination against Jewish children in Canada. Quebec Senator Leo Housakos has written that " it needs to be dealt with before children get hurt." https://x.com/SenatorHousakos/status/2023482666344214553

I wrote that the targeting of Jewish children brought back images of the ultimate step in such targeting, children in concentration camps. We have to stop antisemitic campaigns before they become normalized and turn into something much worse.

I may be a &£#@, but I'm not deluded. I actually like the sound of &£#@, although you could have added a few dollar signs for good luck. &£#@$$$ is much better.

Fair points, although I kinda just disagree with you.

If you were Jewish, would you want your children going to such a religious indoctrination?

If they then wanted to become Israeli and fight in the IDF would that be OK.

Personally, it's too radical for me.

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Meanwhile, crimes like the illegal occupation of land that doesn't belong to you is ok.

They say it was promised to them 3000 years ago.

8 hours ago, JimCM said:

They say it was promised to them 3000 years ago.

That "joke " gets told 3000 times a day .

That "joke " gets told about 10 times in every thread on FB about Israel by wanabee comedians .

10 hours ago, JimCM said:

They say it was promised to them 3000 years ago.

Seems like God went back on His promise to the Israelites. Present-day Israel has only a fraction of the land promised in the Torah to Abram and his descendants.

https://cdapress.com/photos/2021/nov/14/368891/

Genesis 15:18-21 tells us,

"On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying:

'To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates—the land of the Kenites, the Kenizzites, the Kadmonites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgash*tes and the Jebusites.'"

The boundaries of the Promised Land are detailed in Numbers 34:1–12. I'll link to those verses because it is a lengthy passage. https://www.biblestudytools.com/msg/numbers/passage/?q=numbers+34:1-12

God's promise to the Israelites is a central theme of the Torah and Christian Old Testament.

Genesis 12:7 "The LORD appeared to Abram and said, 'To your descendants I will give this land.'”

Genesis 17:8 "And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."

Considering how hard the descendants of the Israelites have had to fight for a sliver of the Promised Land, I wonder if the State of Israel could bring God before the International Court of Justice for breach of promise?

Here's another good editorial from a mainstream newspaper. From The Winnipeg Sun:

Keep foreign conflicts out of Canadian summer camps

There is something deeply wrong when political activists decide that children’s summer camps are an appropriate battlefield for international disputes.

The editorial goes on to state, "singling out Jewish camps for decertification is not a neutral policy proposal. It sends a message that Jewish organizations must answer for the actions of a foreign state in order to participate in Canadian civil society."

https://www.winnipegsun.com/opinion/keep-foreign-conflicts-out-of-canadian-summer-camps/article_4f0d8f0d-4568-4007-b410-4f7900c02828.html

Basically, the editorial emphasizes Jews in Canada should not be punished for the actions of the Israeli government.

On 2/18/2026 at 7:51 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

imagery used to allege secret Jewish control over media, finance, and governments

What you mean "secret" ? Everybody knows about it.

3 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

What you mean "secret" ? Everybody knows about it.

Then "everybody" would be wrong. Do you actually believe Jews control the media or are you just using an antisemitic trope in an attempt to piss off Nick?

15 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Basically, the editorial emphasizes Jews in Canada should not be punished for the actions of the Israeli government.

Of course but Jewish children should not be allowed to be brainwashed by extremist Jews to support the parish state of Israel for obvious reasons.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-backs-palestine-condemns-unlawful-west-bank-expansion-by-israel-101771596090755.html

20 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Seems like God went back on His promise to the Israelites. Present-day Israel has only a fraction of the land promised in the Torah to Abram and his descendants.

https://cdapress.com/photos/2021/nov/14/368891/

Genesis 15:18-21 tells us,

"On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying:

'To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates—the land of the Kenites, the Kenizzites, the Kadmonites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgash*tes and the Jebusites.'"

The boundaries of the Promised Land are detailed in Numbers 34:1–12. I'll link to those verses because it is a lengthy passage. https://www.biblestudytools.com/msg/numbers/passage/?q=numbers+34:1-12

God's promise to the Israelites is a central theme of the Torah and Christian Old Testament.

Genesis 12:7 "The LORD appeared to Abram and said, 'To your descendants I will give this land.'”

Genesis 17:8 "And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."

Considering how hard the descendants of the Israelites have had to fight for a sliver of the Promised Land, I wonder if the State of Israel could bring God before the International Court of Justice for breach of promise?

It won't take long, look at what they've stolen since 1948.

Look at what they're doing in the West Bank - you support this? Most of the world don't.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-backs-palestine-condemns-unlawful-west-bank-expansion-by-israel-101771596090755.html

30 minutes ago, JimCM said:

It won't take long, look at what they've stolen since 1948.

Look at what they're doing in the West Bank - you support this? Most of the world don't.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-backs-palestine-condemns-unlawful-west-bank-expansion-by-israel-101771596090755.html

Its called Judea .

2 hours ago, t0mt0m said:

What you mean "secret" ? Everybody knows about it.

So, why have many Governments taking action against Israel ?

If Jews control Govermnents, why do so many Governments oppose Isreal ?