2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The idea that "Zionist tentacles run deep in western society" is recognized by researchers and anti-defamation organizations as a modern variation of long-standing antisemitic conspiracy theories, specifically evoking the "hidden hand" or "octopus" imagery used to allege secret Jewish control over media, finance, and governments

Reminds me of the old joke of the psychiatrist telling the patient, "Maybe you aren't paranoid. Maybe they really after you."

Maybe the "conspiracy theories" aren't ...

2 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Reminds me of the old joke of the psychiatrist telling the patient, "Maybe you aren't paranoid. Maybe they really after you."

Maybe the "conspiracy theories" aren't ...

Just ask yourself :

If Jews control the World , the media and Western Governments, how come Western Countries oppse Isreal and most of the Western media oppse Isreal .

You think about that for a while

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What about the 7 million Israeli Jews who came from Middle Eastern Coutries ?

Iran, , Sudan , Egypt and Morocco etc .

Where would you send them ?

Not 7 million. Israeli Sephardic numbers are less than 5 million and ME Jews are a fraction of that. But good question. The answer to which is history. ME Jews lived peaceably side by side with Muslims for centuries.

It's the western Zionist movement that forked things up. Get rid of the Ashkenazi hoodlums and you've solved most of your problems.

4 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Not 7 million. Israeli Sephardic numbers are less than 5 million and ME Jews are a fraction of that. But good question. The answer to which is history. ME Jews lived peaceably side by side with Muslims for centuries.

It's the western Zionist movement that forked things up. Get rid of the Ashkenazi hoodlums and you've solved most of your problems.

The final solution, huh?

2 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Not 7 million. Israeli Sephardic numbers are less than 5 million and ME Jews are a fraction of that. But good question. The answer to which is history. ME Jews lived peaceably side by side with Muslims for centuries.

It's the western Zionist movement that forked things up. Get rid of the Ashkenazi hoodlums and you've solved most of your problems.

Things need to move forwards, there is no going back .

You cannot go back to the 1800's

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You want Jews to give Judea (Jew) to Muslims and Jews go to live in a Christian Countries ?

A Country where they've never been to before ?

You want Israelis to live on Ukranian land ?

Ashekanzis, the bulk of Israelis, are not more than a couple of generations removed from Poland, Russia, Hungary, et al. They belong to Ukraine far more than they belong to the ME.

1 minute ago, Autocan said:

Now you're being stupid. Or intentionally obtuse. If western countries "opposed" Israel the genocide would never have happened.

If you want a serious discussion , you need to stop being silly in calling it a genocide

2 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Ashekanzis, the bulk of Israelis, are not more than a couple of generations removed from Poland, Russia, Hungary, et al. They belong to Ukraine far more than they belong to the ME.

Ashkenazi Jews, descending from Central/Eastern Europe, comprise roughly 30–45% of Israeli Jews

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Things need to move forwards, there is no going back .

You cannot go back to the 1800's

I don't disagree. But the genocide needs to stop. And Palestinians need to be given their sovereign state to live in. Not in an apartheid Israel with Jewish boots to their neck.

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

If you want a serious discussion , you need to stop being silly in calling it a genocide

It's what it is, kid. Killing off an ethnic/religious group is genocide. What the Austrian artist did was genocide, and what Israel is doing today is paying that genocide forward.

1 minute ago, Autocan said:

I don't disagree. But the genocide needs to stop. And Palestinians need to be given their sovereign state to live in. Not in an apartheid Israel with Jewish boots to their neck.

Palestianins need to leave the land and go somewhere else.

That is the ONLY way there will be peace in Israel .

It NEEDS to be done , for a peaceful future .

Palestinins will NEVER stop fighting

On 2/17/2026 at 12:23 PM, Evil Penevil said:

Antisemitism is extending its reach day by day. It's undertandable that groups which hate Israel would try to shut down Israeli businesses and political organizations, but to attack camps for Jewish children can only be based in hatred of Jews as Jews.

Anti-Zionist groups in Canada target Jewish children’s summer camps

Anti-Zionist groups in Canada last week launched a campaign against Jewish children’s summer camps, marking a new front in activists’ global effort to dismantle the Jewish state and demonize its supporters.

A coalition of Canadian leftist and pro-Palestinian organizations announced the campaign seeking to strip accreditation from Jewish children’s summer camps due to their support for “a genocidal state.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/anti-zionist-groups-in-canada-target-jewish-children-s-summer-camps/ar-AA1WtnvC?uxmode=ruby&ocid=edgntpruby&pc=W230&cvid=6994518419544da2951523c5fb2cf768&ei=31

This is a particularly disturbing development and brings back some tragic images.

Chikdren should never be the target of any protest group.

Are you referring to anti Zionists or antisemitism?

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On 2/17/2026 at 7:38 PM, Jingthing said:

We'll probably hear that some of the people targeting these Jewish CHILDREN are Jews themselves as if there self-hating Jews don't exist.

Do you realize the implications of your suggestion that there are "self-hating Jews"? When a non-Jew criticizes Jews, he's an anti-Semite. When a Jew criticizes Jews, he's a "self-hating Jew". The point is that it is always the person who criticizes Jews who is wrong. Never the Jews.

"Gentiles" (as you call us - or "goyim" (cattle), less politely) have no problem criticizing other Gentiles. We do it all the time, and we're not accused of being self-hating Gentiles. (Speaking of which, who besides the Jews divide the world into "us", and "everybody else who is not us" (Jews vs. Gentiles)? That says a lot about how you see the world. "Gentiles" is something you call us. It's not what we call ourselves, and we don't divide the world into Gentiles and Jews.

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestianins need to leave the land and go somewhere else.

That is the ONLY way there will be peace in Israel .

It NEEDS to be done , for a peaceful future .

Palestinins will NEVER stop fighting

Would you be surprised to learn that the Palestinians (as well as everyone else in the region) are thinking that the ONLY way that there will be peace in the Middle East is for the Jews to leave, as the Jews will never stop fighting? Are you Jews totally incapable of imagining that non-Jews also have thoughts and feelings and interests of their own?

1 hour ago, BangkokHank said:

Would you be surprised to learn that the Palestinians (as well as everyone else in the region) are thinking that the ONLY way that there will be peace in the Middle East is for the Jews to leave, as the Jews will never stop fighting? Are you Jews totally incapable of imagining that non-Jews also have thoughts and feelings and interests of their own?

Arabs could give peace a chance ?

On 2/17/2026 at 12:36 PM, Evil Penevil said:

I totally agree that anti-Zionism is used as an acceptable cover for the raw hatred of Jews, regardless of any affiliation to Israel.

I totally agree that anti-Zionism is used by some antisemites in their belief that it is an acceptable excuse for their own raw hatred of Jews, regardless of any affiliation to Israel.

However anti-Zionism is not antisemitism and it disingenuous to link the two without drawing a very clear distinction between those who use it as a cover for their own antisemitism and those who do not.

There is no excuse for antisemitism, there is absolutely no ‘acceptable excuse’ for antisemitism.

Anti-Zionism is not an ‘acceptable excuse’ for anti-semitism, no such thing as acceptable excuse for antisemitism exists. It’s not a thing.

18 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its impossible for you to separate Jews from Israel .

Ingrained Anti semetism I think they call it .

This story is about Jews in Canada .

Canadians who are Jews .

Canadian citizens .

Nothing to do with Israel or Zionism .

I call bull<deleted>, Nick. You well know this has nothing to do with the kids.

I have presented the groups which support these camps, the many that are pro-Zionist and pro-Israeli, including the war on Palestine, and the two which are not.

It is impossible for those supporting Israel not to confer their beliefs to these kids. Which is why I would send my kids to one of them. I'm not an antisemite, I'm anti-indoctrination.

I have another Chabad friend here who was eager to send his dual citizen twin boys to join the IDF. Sorry, that just fries what brain cells I have left. They're kids, too, indoctrinated by their father (I have never seen the Thai mother in schul).

What I really object to is hoodwinking 'normal' progressive Canadian Jews to send their kids on promise these are not reeducation camps, with beliefs they would not be getting at home.

You roll everything back to antisemitism. Way too facile. You can think of me what you like, but not every opinion shows antisemitism.

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Total garbage hate speech!

Yep, just boil the world down to antisemitism and hate speech...and Zionists. Everybody knows Israelis own all the land, they've been chosen, at least by the Brits. /s (<deleted>, I almost wrote bris!)

Honestly, I don't know what it will take to get through to you, jingthing, evilpenevil, nickcarter and a few others that knowing brainwashed Israelis are warmongering monsters has nothing to do with anybody's religion! Well, except the Rastafarians, Flying Spaghetti Monster and Native American Church: smoke dope, eat spaghetti and drop some peyote sounds like the right religion for me! not /s

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Unis were cracking down of protestors disrupting other students education and cracking down on protestors causing blockages and criminal damage and trespassing .

The protestors are still free to protest , just keep off private property and do not commit any crimes

What horse<deleted>! Columbia is my alma mater. We had lots of protests there in my 60s. And sometimes we were arrested. Does time in The Tombs count as disrupting education because I couldn't get to classes? Universities, for the uneducated, are not private property! They are dedicated to free discourse and the free exchange of ideas. At least that's what I was taught at Columbia.

17 hours ago, Nurf said:

These are the Bolshevik crowd.

But dark times are upon us and I state that in no uncertain terms.

Wait! I'm an ideal log! (Or maybe just a bump...)

I attended the first Communist Party USA convention since McCarthy. I was was an alternate delegate from New Jersey. This was 1966. Man, there were FBI with cameras just brazenly hanging out the windows across the street! My face is probably in a file somewhere.

It was clear from that convention, they'd been left behind by history. They were Stalinists for Goddess' sake!

Guess that means I'm not a "Bolshie" (great word, btw, haven't heard it since the 60s!). Never used a pronoun, either, though I've considered me/mine and it/its.

16 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Don't ignore the thousands of Jews living in Iran will you?

8,500 as of 2021. So what? Is there evidence of persecution. Google tells me there is de facto discrimination, much the same as in many other countries. Such discrimination is not codified as far as I know. Is it in Iran? Jews have one seat in the 290-seat Islamic Cultural Assembly. (This is the first time I've ever heard of a legislative seat being awarded on the basis of religion, well, except for Thailand's senators. Perhaps that single seat was elected.)

Isn't Israel just as much a theocracy as Iran? Iran's constitution (as if that means anything, as in Thailand and the US) guarantees religious freedom for Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians, permitting schools and houses of worship. I would assume, just don't insult Islam. I have seen no news about Iranian Jews taking part in the recent protests and subsequent massacres.

AFAIK, there has been no retaliation against local Jews from Israel's aggression. Likely no kids' Zionist summer camps.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Arabs could give peace a chance ?

Israel could give peace a chance?

• 1948 Arab-Israeli War: Following Israel's declaration of independence, a war broke out with surrounding Arab states, resulting in the displacement of Palestinians.

• 1956 Suez Crisis: A joint military operation involving Israel, Britain, and France against Egypt following the nationalization of the Suez Canal.

• 1967 Six-Day War: Israel launched a preemptive strike on Egypt and Syria, resulting in the acquisition of the Gaza Strip, Sinai Peninsula, West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Golan Heights.

• 1973 Yom Kippur War: A conflict initiated by a surprise attack from Egypt and Syria, which resulted in significant fighting before a ceasefire.

• 1982 Lebanon War: An invasion of Lebanon intended to expel the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).

• 2006 Lebanon War: A month-long conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

• Other Actions: Israel destroyed an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981 and has frequently engaged in strikes against targets in Syria and Lebanon, particularly against Iran-aligned groups. 

These conflicts, along with various uprisings, have been defining features of the Arab-Israeli conflict for decades.

I would add the Nakba, first and second Intifadas, expulsion from Jerusalem and Israeli settlers among Israel's wars. 

Antisemitic post removed @BangkokHank . A post that states antisemitic views, is still antisemitic, regardless of finding an alternative website to support your view.

2 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Yep, just boil the world down to antisemitism and hate speech...and Zionists. Everybody knows Israelis own all the land, they've been chosen, at least by the Brits. /s (<deleted>, I almost wrote bris!)

Honestly, I don't know what it will take to get through to you, jingthing, evilpenevil, nickcarter and a few others that knowing brainwashed Israelis are warmongering monsters has nothing to do with anybody's religion! Well, except the Rastafarians, Flying Spaghetti Monster and Native American Church: smoke dope, eat spaghetti and drop some peyote sounds like the right religion for me! not /s

If you mean you're frustrated that you're never going to convince me that Israel doesn't have a right to exist and defend itself, that there are no good things to come from that state since 1948, you'll have to stay that way.

I've been extremely vocal for many years in my opposition to Netanyahu and many of his actions, so either you don't know that which is excusable, or you fail to see nuance. It has to be hate everything Israel or you love genocide of Arabs. Nope never.

Also of course the Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group like the Kurds, so that's different than Jewish identity only being about religion. In fact, it doesn't need to be about religion at all.

3 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

Would you be surprised to learn that the Palestinians (as well as everyone else in the region) are thinking that the ONLY way that there will be peace in the Middle East is for the Jews to leave, as the Jews will never stop fighting? Are you Jews totally incapable of imagining that non-Jews also have thoughts and feelings and interests of their own?

I find your post comical.

Of course Israelis know full well from their very founding that their neighbors don't want them to exist. Do you think they're stupid?

It's a two way street of course. Israel can't afford to lose even one war in the region and continue to exist.

So of course Israel will always need to keep defending and they will always need to be strong enough to win. Otherwise, it's over.

I read between the lines that you'd love Israel to be over. Best of luck with that.

4 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

Do you realize the implications of your suggestion that there are "self-hating Jews"? When a non-Jew criticizes Jews, he's an anti-Semite. When a Jew criticizes Jews, he's a "self-hating Jew". The point is that it is always the person who criticizes Jews who is wrong. Never the Jews.

"Gentiles" (as you call us - or "goyim" (cattle), less politely) have no problem criticizing other Gentiles. We do it all the time, and we're not accused of being self-hating Gentiles. (Speaking of which, who besides the Jews divide the world into "us", and "everybody else who is not us" (Jews vs. Gentiles)? That says a lot about how you see the world. "Gentiles" is something you call us. It's not what we call ourselves, and we don't divide the world into Gentiles and Jews.

What an incredibly SLEAZY, disingenuous, extreme STRAW MAN post.

I'm not going to be Jew baited by the likes of you with your extreme anti-Jewish posting history to pretend to speak for the Jewish people in defense of your vile and ignorant insinuations.

But I will say the cliche -- 100 Jews, 100 opinions.

It's part of Jewish culture to argue and debate about stuff ... endlessly.

I never said and never would say that Jews shouldn't criticize other Jews, and if they do, that automatically makes them self hating Jews.

But self hating Jews do exist -- Finklestein is their poster child.

What I did obviously assert was very narrow.

Yes it's my opinion that any Jew who would attack Jewish children attending Jewish summer camps in Canada are self hating Jews.

To do so is really disgusting whoever does it.

On 2/17/2026 at 7:23 PM, Evil Penevil said:

Antisemitism is extending its reach day by day. It's undertandable that groups which hate Israel would try to shut down Israeli businesses and political organizations, but to attack camps for Jewish children can only be based in hatred of Jews as Jews.

Clutching at straws now.

If you said the kids were killed, it would be serious. People like you say nothing when 25,000 Muslims are killed in Gaza, is this anti Islam?

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What I did obviously assert was very narrow.

Yes it's my opinion that any Jew who would attack Jewish children attending Jewish summer camps in Canada are self hating Jews.

To do so is really disgusting whoever does it.

Jewish yanks have to tell the kids the truth so they will stop financing Genocidal Israel.