2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

When did he propose that?

Check yourself, I am not your butler.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Im sure we could repurpose one of our Middle East bases, maybe pick up one in Egypt (they need the money).

Good luck with that one - you would need to deploy tens of thousands of troops just to protect them!

46 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Check yourself, I am not your butler.

Just wait for the "got it" or "translation:" reply now. Shouldn't take long

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

Check yourself, I am not your butler.

Got it, he didnt

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

But your idol Mr. Trump wanted to end NATO! Now he suddenly need it? Really?!, and such guy you like! That speaks volumes about you.

When "Yagoda" says "we", I assume he's referring to Russia. Sometimes the hand over notes get mixed up.

5 hours ago, JAG said:

Ramstein and it's associated bases are the vital logistical hubs for any deployments (particularly ground forces) into the Middle East and Africa.

The US air bases in England are the vital forward basing for air operations over the Middle East. The shore bases and ports in the Mediterranean, Italy and Spain, are essential for the US Navy - I know the carriers are nuclear powered but the crews need to be fed, the aircraft have to be maintained and supplied with fuel.and munitions.

Close the bases in Europe and the USA will find its power projection in The Middle East much more difficult and much more expensive - everything will have to be flown or shipped from the US. The logistical, communications and medical support will suddenly become much more involved and expensive. One of your two hospital ships ( you will remember, the ones that Trump wanted to deploy to Greenland but couldn't because they were both in dry dock) will have to be permanently bobbing around behind the sixth fleet.

Mind you, I don't suppose any of this will occur to The Commander in Chief (a stable genius) or his drunken buffoon of a Secretary of State for Defence, when he starts to wave his sharpie around! Then it will of course all be someone else's fault!

Ramstein is also a vital military medical hub. Troops wounded in the Middle East are unlikely to survive a transfer to the Homeland. More dead Americans. Sometimes the Americans think of NATO wrongly. Its essentially a supplement to their own defence budget. If Russia really kicks off, it will be Russia versus America, with Europe in between. There would be no doubt Europe will help defend America, and NATO members would be, de facto, an extension of US forces. With NATO membership, America doesn't have to worry about how much of its defence budget it needs to allocate to confront a British, French, German etc threat.

In the words of General Sir Nick Carter, former chief of the UK Defence Staff:

"Nato was created as a… defensive alliance. It was not an alliance that was designed for one of the allies to go on a war of choice and then oblige everybody else to follow .... I'm not sure that's the sort of Nato that any of us wanted to belong to."

Trump is a bully and a bloviator and in addition to that he possesses very low intelligence, and that's a very dangerous and toxic mix of qualities.

He spent a year heaping scorn, anger, hostility, a lack of gratitude, disrespect and hatred toward our closest allies that we've spent 81 years building up an alliance with, and now he expects them to come to our rescue with a war that they have nothing to do with?

He seems to forget the fact that America would be in German hands now if it weren't for our European allies, and they endured the brunt of the war. Other than Pearl Harbor America never got hit, but since he doesn't read he probably doesn't know that part of history and continues to operate from a place of staggering ignorance and incompetence on a daily basis.

Right now Trump is the most dangerous man in the world, and we need to get rid of him somehow, he needs to go as soon as possible. Even after getting his butt kicked in Iran this man will continue to start more wars as he has never gotten over the child abuse that he suffered at the hands of his parents, and the incredibly irresponsible GOP will not do anything to stop this man and prevent him from ruining America and sending it on a swift downhill trajectory.

17 hours ago, Yagoda said:

That would be wonderful

How about all the unwavering support for Ukraine?

The big "EU flop". Trump don't need assistance from the woke and gutless EU TACO cupcakes, he's testing them, seeing how they react.

glad none of the countries, he asked to join in, are willing to step into, they all said no and now even one of US military commander, that served in Europe, has something to say and the orange will not like it

Lieutenant General Hodges, the former commander of the US Army in Europe, told Radio 4′s Today programme: “This is embarrassing for me as an American to hear any American president showing such disdain for any ally, and we are going to regret in the long run as ... nations lose confidence in us, lose trust in us and start finding other ways to look after their strategic interests.”

Former US Army General Hits Out At Donald Trump's 'Repulsive' Comments About America's Allies

https://au.yahoo.com/news/former-us-army-general-hits-083344048.html

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Even after getting his butt kicked in Iran

Oh, when did that happen, I hadn't heard. LOL

Ahh, but of course, that's just you making up stories and lies and butthurt Trump hating BS propaganda.

FY confused and ignorant self: (FYCIS)

• IRGC leadership all dead

• IRGC Navy finished

• IRGC air defense non existent

• IRGC drones and missile strikes down >80% over the past 2 weeks

• IRGC drone and missile stockpiles and launchers massively hit

• IRGC Regime operators massively hit

• IRGC defense budget not able to rebuild what has been destroyed for the next couple years

• IRGC lost kharg island

• IRGC trying their absolute hardest to stop hormuz for a few days

• IRGCs only strategic objective in this war is to literally "SURVIVE"

and a big bonus, the goats are happy and thank President Trump.

It's just Trump being Trump! 😂

AI image, of course!

22 hours ago, swissie said:

This time I agree with you, a rare occurrence. The Strait of Hormuz is a "world affair", regardless if the Europeans like it or not.

the strait of Hormuz was working just fine, with oil tankers in and out, until the moron started the conflict, thus Europeans have nothing absolutely nothing to do there, they didn't start any conflict nor did they antagonized Iran

I kinda like this answer for TACO man.😆

2 hours ago, boganJoe said:

Oh, when did that happen, I hadn't heard. LOL

Ahh, but of course, that's just you making up stories and lies and butthurt Trump hating BS propaganda.

FY confused and ignorant self: (FYCIS)

• IRGC leadership all dead

• IRGC Navy finished

• IRGC air defense non existent

• IRGC drones and missile strikes down >80% over the past 2 weeks

• IRGC drone and missile stockpiles and launchers massively hit

• IRGC Regime operators massively hit

• IRGC defense budget not able to rebuild what has been destroyed for the next couple years

• IRGC lost kharg island

• IRGC trying their absolute hardest to stop hormuz for a few days

• IRGCs only strategic objective in this war is to literally "SURVIVE"

and a big bonus, the goats are happy and thank President Trump.

Yet here we are, weeks into the war, listening to your demented president begging for help from NATO, South Korea, Japan and even China!

Which begs the question; help with what?? Your president said days ago that Iran was 100% defeated. Not 80-90%, but ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.

So again, what, exactly, do you need our help for? Regime change?

My answer would be, "gladly!" We know how to locate Mar-a-lago on a map.

Oh, and if Trump wants to clear out Hormuz, he should put his name on it. That worked great for the Kennedy Center.

Trump asked Germany for help. They asked him what 5 plus 4 is. He said 9. The Germans said "exactly".

Hey, what is this I hear you ask? Well, it's nothing more than another fresh TACO served by the Master Chef in the WH!

7 hours ago, boganJoe said:

How about all the unwavering support for Ukraine?

The big "EU flop". Trump don't need assistance from the woke and gutless EU TACO cupcakes, he's testing them, seeing how they react.

Very tell8ng how the Ukraine war is almost all but forgotten now that there is a new cause trending to support.

Last but not least... there is the fantastic opportunity. The so called "Board of Peace".

Jeeeez - how could I have forget that...

It's chaired by Trump and features a key Executive Board, including

Marco Rubio, Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff, Tony Blair, and Marc Rowan - a very important billionaire (for Trump).

ALL of them have the skills to make PEACE.

Emmm... just almost forgot that the PEACE Prez himself started the war and really believes that the NATO alliance members should join his "PEACE - journey".

Well, s**t happens. So he'll just have to send a few guys into Iran (Boots on the ground) to take out a couple of guards. Can't be much anymore, all bombed to death. For sure.

....

Ok, perhaps he might has to think it over and bring a new wonderful and beautiful plan. To make america poorer again (but that's Joe's and Barack's fault anyway).

Note: The above lines may contain some sarcasm and irony.

Please, can you help us now? We're getting our asses kicked, the Iranians have caught us flat footed, I don't know why I listen to the ignoramus Natanyahu to begin with, but we really need some help, please, pretty please.

This man is a complete madman and an insane super freak, and he has spent 14 months disrespecting our allies and now he's asking them to come to our rescue. Well good luck with that Don.

Why would any nation put their navy at risk for this toxic street trash goomba? He started this mess. He dug this hole and he's going to have to figure out a way to dig himself out of it.

My guess is that he will withdraw with his tail between his legs, and claim a false victory having accomplished nothing except destruction of the world economy and more turmoil, but that's why we call him Mr. Chaos, isn't it?

He is a simpleton nimwit, being advised by people that he picked from the absolute bottom of the barrel, but that's just Don. It's a shame because tens of millions of people thought he was somebody else. And he sure is showing his true colors now.

And both of his sons just purchased a company that is going to be making drones for the US Armed Forces, so guess what? This whole thing just might have been about self enrichment for his family, and nothing more. The massive and unadulterated corruption continues, Trump style.

NATO doesn't want to help because it's negotiating free passage for its oil and the petrodollar is being weakened in the process as they will be paying in something other than USD, probably Chinese Yuan.

Also a nice short...

AI generated of course

23 hours ago, Mavideol said:

glad none of the countries, he asked to join in, are willing to step into, they all said no and now even one of US military commander, that served in Europe, has something to say and the orange will not like it

Lieutenant General Hodges, the former commander of the US Army in Europe, told Radio 4′s Today programme: “This is embarrassing for me as an American to hear any American president showing such disdain for any ally, and we are going to regret in the long run as ... nations lose confidence in us, lose trust in us and start finding other ways to look after their strategic interests.”

Former US Army General Hits Out At Donald Trump's 'Repulsive' Comments About America's Allies

https://au.yahoo.com/news/former-us-army-general-hits-083344048.html

Donald Trump has expressed frustration over a lack of military assistance from allies, but European leaders are reluctant to join a conflict he started without consulting them.

The US President has long been sceptical about the value of alliances. Two weeks into his war with Iran, he was seeking to build one on Tuesday (local time).

Faced with Tehran’s successful effort to cut off the flow of oil and gas tankers through a vital shipping choke point, Trump has importuned a sweep of nations to help secure the Strait of Hormuz. He has blasted Britain, Germany, Japan, South Korea and others for their reluctance.

And he has revived his long-standing complaints about the Nato alliance, musing that he could rethink the US relationship with allies without congressional approval.

But days of demands appear to have yielded little concrete assistance, with countries reluctant to join a conflict Trump unleashed without their input, and one that is deeply unpopular in their countries.

European nations are still reeling from Trump’s January efforts to wrest Greenland from Danish control – an experience some of them feared would involve a US military operation – and Trump is increasingly toxic among European voters.

AND…Still, European leaders are cautious about joining a fight that they did not seek. And the crisis spreading across the Middle East is also shaping up to be a new source of tension in a rocky transatlantic relationship.

“We’re beginning to see the effects of a real break of trust across the Atlantic,” Nathalie Tocci, the director of the Rome-based Institute for International Affairs, said.

“I mean, why on earth would Europeans do this, right?” she said. “We’re talking about a President that has withdrawn military assistance from Ukraine, that has imposed tariffs on Europe, that has threatened a European country with annexation.”

Remember, The Iraq War also became a lesson on the political risk of backing American adventurism. Ultimately, it left a sense across Europe that the 2003 US invasion yielded a long, bloody and war under false pretences. European involvement there and in Afghanistan is widely viewed as a mistake and has made it complicated for European leaders to join America in another Middle East war, especially led by a President they clash with often.

 Excerpts from an article in The New Zealand Herald

 

Merz said at The White House with Trump 2 weeks ago that he is on "the same page" as US but hopes hostilities end soon. And now:

Germany news: Merz says US has 'no convincing plan' in Iran

Chancellor Merz has again ruled out Germany's taking a role in the war on Iran. He said the country would have advised against it from the start. Meanwhile, Germany looks set for an uptick in homebuilding.

updated 14 hours ago -- Frustration is high in Europe after Trump launched the war without consulting allies.

"Washington did not consult us," Merz said. "We would have advised against it."

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-news-strike-halts-flights-to-from-berlin-friedrich-merz-to-address-bundestag/live-76406426

On 3/16/2026 at 5:11 PM, Mavideol said:

this is the joke of the year, the guy started the war with Israel help, didn't consult with anybody, didn't share any information thus no advise was given to him, he didn't prepare for any counter measure that could happen, like the closure of the strait of Hormuz, since he started it on it's own Nato members have nothing to do with it, guess what is his latest decision???? I know it's laughable, he said if the Nato allies don't help him overtaking the strait, they will face a very bad future BTW the majority of them already said No, you started it on your own, now finish on your own, China and Japan ignored the request

Donald Trump has ratcheted up the pressure on European allies to help protect the strait of Hormuz, warning that Nato faces a “very bad” future if its members fail to come to Washington’s aid.

Trump steps up pressure on European allies to help protect strait of Hormuz

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/16/strait-of-hormuz-australia-japan-no-ships

He doesnt seem to understand the Nato charter. No one attacked a Nato member did they?

4 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

NATO doesn't want to help because it's negotiating free passage for its oil and the petrodollar is being weakened in the process as they will be paying in something other than USD, probably Chinese Yuan.

It is not a case of NATO not wanting to help!

NATO is a defensive organisation.

The principle of collective defence – meaning that an attack against one Ally is considered as an attack against all Allies – is at the heart of NATO.

No NATO member country has been attacked or involved in Trump's original warmongering illegal attack on Iran therefore NATO has no mandate to get involved!

Why should they? 😀

37 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

It is not a case of NATO not wanting to help!

NATO is a defensive organisation.

The principle of collective defence – meaning that an attack against one Ally is considered as an attack against all Allies – is at the heart of NATO.

No NATO member country has been attacked or involved in Trump's original warmongering illegal attack on Iran therefore NATO has no mandate to get involved!

The difference between helping a country being attacked, and helping the aggressor is quite a different matter, but some obviously do not understand the difference !

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

The difference between helping a country being attacked, and helping the aggressor is quite a different matter, but some obviously do not understand the difference !

You obviously don't!

Iran has been attacked and the USA is the aggressor!

No NATO country was attacked by the Iranian Government forces this year before Trump unleashed his ILLEGAL attack on Iran!

Article 5 of the NATO doctrine does not therefore apply and NO NATO county is under any legal or moral obligation to get involved!

I do not believe that there is a single NATO country, with the possible exception of the USA, whose population would support such involvement!