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Samson Option: Will Arab countries take retribution on Israel?

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Dear Folks,

People who know me have always considered me to be quite a Casssandra.

I like to think of myself as the modern-day Kassandra of the unbiased kind.

I have no need to read tea leaves or oracle bones because, in fact, it is within my own bones that I feel the future.


Some believe that women have this SIXTH SENSE of intuition and premonition about future events which men are unable to comprehend. I have found that the feminine side of me, though I be, indeed, merely a man, also retains these powers of prescience, even though I am completely male, biologically speaking.

And so I say to those who might listen:

We are now at a pivotal Tipping-Point for our entire world, one like we have seldom seen before.

And, although it may prove true that we are powerless to alter our destiny, Man’s destiny, yet still, we are able to see the writing on the wall. Or, at least, a few of us can see what most refuse to see.

Here is an enlightening vid, just one more in a series of them, which proves my point, about pivotal Tipping-Points.


And, those in the know are beginning to recognize the looming and near-future implementation of…

The Samson Option.

The real curse for those who are able to see the future is that, even though we see through the glass less darkly, we remain utterly powerless to change what we predict will befall us. And, what is worse, nobody listens, nor pays us heed.

If you will not listen to me, I say, then please listen to those even more learned than I.

Enjoy this vid…if you will.

And, Oh Yeah, lest I close before explaining the Samson Option:

A picture is worth a thousand words…

Samson pulled down the temple and destroyed those who did not obey God. Their hubris angered the one and only just God. They were destroyed by their unwillingness to follow the moral path.


God will destroy the Temple, it has been said…

If Man refuses to follow the spirit of God’s law.

Retribution and revenge is Mine, alone, said God.

And those who take vengeance and retribution into their own hands,

And those who allow hatred for their neighbor to take dominion over reason…

Will be quickly laid low.

We will all regret that it had to be this way.

Yet, those who refuse to obey the true commandments of God,..

Will cease to walk the Earth,...

In the blink of an eye.

You have heard it said: An Eye For An Eye

Yet, I say: Live together in Harmony, and Go in Peace.


Best regards,

Gamma


Note: The time is nigh, and there is no more time. Now is the time, or no time, in fact.

Note2:  This is the most important Topic I have ever posted to TV. Contrary to the view of a tiny minority, Life is not a Zero-Sum Game. We must root-out those that would destroy us. Otherwise, our children will remain continually beset with worry; everlasting anxiety for their future. 

(Facetiousness aside: Yes. Our children, these days, do worry deeply about their future. They say: We are young. We don’t want to die before our time.)

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Note3: I should like to add that, from my experience of the study of Physiology, it is known that anytime a foreign substance, or a foreign object, is introduced under the skin, where it does not belong, there is the high-likelihood for a BOIL to materialize. Are we now seeing this boil in metaphorical terms, grow larger and larger, as the years before us unfold?

And, who shall POP this BOIL?

Shirley, it is only those that live within, the local-populace, the common-people, the logical, thinking antibodies, these protectors of all Humanity, who are in the best position to prick the boil, and let out the putrid pus.

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    Is this genuine geopolitical analysis or just fear-mongering disguised as geopolitical insight?

  • If Israel (US) nukes Iran, I imagine that Iran, whether its able to make one are "borrow" one from Pakistan, will level Tel Aviv and Haifa, and that will be the end of Israel as we know it. And very

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    IMO if anyone uses a nuke, it's game over. Russia would say it's a free pass to use nukes in Ukraine, likewise India and Pakistan could have at it. Israel has been sending the world on a collective g

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Retribution ? When it comes to money, business, even if at the expense of their own or their ideologies and so-called principles, there are no more belligerents. Only Europe is foolish enough to act as the Mr Clean of the world and continue to punish it's own and maintain the sanctions against the cheap russian gas and oil. Sanctions that are plumetting european economies, the €uro and punishing mainly the european middle classes.

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If Israel (US) nukes Iran, I imagine that Iran, whether its able to make one are "borrow" one from Pakistan, will level Tel Aviv and Haifa, and that will be the end of Israel as we know it. And very possibly a US city or two will disappear.
Iran, a country the size of Western Europe, with a population of 90 million can absorb more nukes than Israel.

Then the world's reaction? It could very well be the catalyst for a global nuclear war.

Israel should be forced to give up it's nukes and come under the purvey of the IAEA.

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23 minutes ago, connda said:

If Israel (US) nukes Iran, I imagine that Iran, whether its able to make one are "borrow" one from Pakistan, will level Tel Aviv and Haifa, and that will be the end of Israel as we know it. And very possibly a US city or two will disappear.
Iran, a country the size of Western Europe, with a population of 90 million can absorb more nukes than Israel.

Then the world's reaction? It could very well be the catalyst for a global nuclear war.

Israel should be forced to give up it's nukes and come under the purvey of the IAEA.

Yes.

And, also, the vid attached to this Topic, Jeff's vid, is one of his best, ever, in which he is even more outspoken, and even clearer, about the state of the world, at this point.

Just because one might find the message difficult to swallow, if that might even be true, this does not change the reality and logic of his presentation.

This is one very excellent vid that Americans need to watch, and absorb.

Americans will remain in denial, at their own peril.

More on the Samson Option:

The ambiguity around Israel’s nuclear arsenal also extends to its nuclear doctrine, or the circumstances under which it would choose to deploy nuclear weapons. A previous report from the FAS describes a key component of Israel’s nuclear doctrine as “the Samson Option,” a reference to the biblical figure Samson, who killed himself and his enemies by collapsing the pillars of the temple in which they all stood. The Samson Option similarly invokes murder-suicide, threatening any force that successfully defeats Israel’s conventional military with nuclear retaliation. “Israel’s policy of never formally acknowledging its nuclear arsenal makes its doctrine ambiguous, but the Samson Option is believed to refer to Israel’s plans for overwhelming nuclear retaliation against non-nuclear adversaries if the country faces an imminent, existential threat,” says Davenport. “It would likely include deliberate, disproportionate nuclear strikes against non-military targets, such as cities, despite the clear violation of international humanitarian law.”

https://progressive.org/latest/the-samson-option-israels-plan-to-nuke-its-opponents-dilawar-20240624/

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

People who know me have always considered me to be quite a Casssandra.

Just like the one in "Fools and Horses"!

Falling for all the street trader has to offer.

PS; It refers to a UK TV programme! 💤

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14 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

clear violation of international humanitarian law.

This seems to be a non-issue, today, and in the recent past.

And, perhaps, this is precisely the problem.

Non-conformance to international humanitarian law might be the very thing that ends up putting Israel most at risk.

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16 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

This seems to be a non-issue, today, and in the recent past.

And, perhaps, this is precisely the problem.

Non-conformance to international humanitarian law might be the very thing that ends up putting Israel most at risk.

Israel is now the instrument of its own downfall (because Trump radically rearranged the dynamics of the Middle East, though few realise to what extent).

I don't think the Iranians will attack any Israeli nuclear facilities for fear of nuclear retribution. But a cornered animal can do unexpected things if its survival is at risk. That type of, "If I am going down, I will take you with me attitude."

The same could be said for Iran's oil fields. "If we can't have them, neither will you. We will bomb and burn the whole lot."

The Israelis couldn't care less if Iran is turned to dust, but if Trump does all this and can't get the oil it is a waste of time.

Cuba's oil is only small potatoes compared to Iran's.

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IMO if anyone uses a nuke, it's game over. Russia would say it's a free pass to use nukes in Ukraine, likewise India and Pakistan could have at it.

Israel has been sending the world on a collective guilt trip for 80 years. It is now a country with its own version of the Holocaust.

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What does the Book of Revelations predict?

There's your clue right there as to what will likely happen in the Middle East.

It's been prophesized by Ezekiel.

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8 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IMO if anyone uses a nuke, it's game over. Russia would say it's a free pass to use nukes in Ukraine, likewise India and Pakistan could have at it.

Israel has been sending the world on a collective guilt trip for 80 years. It is now a country with its own version of the Holocaust.

I TOTALLY agree, but the guilt trip probably began the very day German citizens were forced by the American Army to march through the devastation of what was left of the barbarous extermination camps, at the close of WW2.

And, concerning use of nukes by Israel, I think this is what the world is worried most about, at this time.

Or, it might just end up providing the world with a second reminder, after the first use in Japan, of what nukes actually do to our world.

INTERESTINGLY: I have never seen Columbia University's Jeff Sachs lose his normally-dispassionate, academic cool, as he does in this particular vid, which I attached to this Topic.

It is just so obvious that, after all these years at Columbia, it is TRUMP, and his misbegotten invasion of Iran, that has finally pushed poor Jeff, over the edge, it seems.

The vid would be sort of sadly-hilarious, in Jeff's description of Trump, if it were not for the fact that this is our world, which might be hanging in the balance, at this moment.

And, it seems to me that Jeff has never been so worried.

I watched the full video and generally respect Jeffrey Sachs, but I found some of his framing difficult to reconcile in light of the broader picture.

His argument seems to rely heavily on a single perspective, particularly in how he characterizes Iran’s role in the region and its intentions. For example, he dismisses concerns about Iran’s nuclear ambitions and downplays its involvement in regional conflicts by providing funding and weapons for terrorism, while placing most of the responsibility on the US and Israel. That feels incomplete. There are widely known concerns about Iran’s support for proxy groups and its strategic posture to destroy Israel, just as there are serious concerns about the actions and policies of Israel and other countries in the region.

At the same time, he suggests that one side is primarily the aggressor and the other the victim, but the reality appears more complex than that. Both sides express hostile positions toward each other, and the cycle of escalation reflects that mutual tension. Presenting it as a one sided dynamic oversimplifies a very complicated situation.

He also does not seem to address internal issues within Iran, including how the government treats its own population, indiscriminately killing tens of thousands at will, which is an important part of understanding the broader context.

Personally, I am not supportive of the US and Israel escalating conflict with Iran, especially given the lack of a clear end goal or realistic path to stability. But I also think it is important to acknowledge the range of concerns that drive different actors’ decisions, including efforts to limit military capabilities that are seen as threatening.

Overall, I think a more balanced analysis would require him to engage seriously with perspectives and criticisms on all sides, rather than leaning too heavily in one direction.

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3 minutes ago, Kyoto Kyle said:

He also does not seem to address internal issues within Iran, including how the government treats its own population, indiscriminately killing tens of thousands at will, which is an important part of understanding the broader context.

Please see other vids where Sachs talks about just these very topics that you mention.

This vid is short, the single vid in the OP.

For the full "picture", "according to Sachs", please watch or read more of his views.

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18 minutes ago, Kyoto Kyle said:

He also does not seem to address internal issues within Iran, including how the government treats its own population, indiscriminately killing tens of thousands at will, which is an important part of understanding the broader context.

And, by the way, I do hope that nobody, including yourself of course, would ever be so foolish as to propose that the USA should ever go to war with Iran, in order to free the Iranians from their authoritarian-theocratic government, through some sort of regime change.

Certainly, if the USA were to ever do that, then the effort would most probably end up a TOTAL DISASTER....

Am I correct?

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Is this genuine geopolitical analysis or just fear-mongering disguised as geopolitical insight?

16 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

And, by the way, I do hope that nobody, including yourself of course, would ever be so foolish as to propose that the USA should ever go to war with Iran, in order to free the Iranians from their authoritarian-theocratic government, through some sort of regime change.

Certainly, if the USA were to ever do that, then the effort would most probably end up a TOTAL DISASTER....

Am I correct?

I would expect if Trump put boots on the ground in Iran, both sides of politics would impeach him.

If not, America may as well accept it has a new king.

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1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Is this genuine geopolitical analysis or just fear-mongering disguised as geopolitical insight?

If you want to know the answer to this question, and actually learn it for yourself, then best read the published articles written by Sachs.

If I were to tell you, then this would be too easy, and you would not trust me, anyway.

I would suggest you also check out his work at The Earth Institute, beginning decades ago, and best begin there to gain a fuller understanding.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

America may as well accept it has a new king.

Especially as he is as mentally deranged as the king (George 111) who ruled at the time of independence!

Full circle if it happens!

This topic is more political posturing presented under the guise of "discussion". Why would Arab countries take retribution on Israel? The Iranians are the ones bombing the Arabs, not Israel. The arrogance and ignorance of some of these comments are condescending to the Arab victims and assumes that the Arab world is one monolithic group.

  • The Gulf Arabs dislike the Iranian state. They are not going to take on Israel to help Iran. Iran has previously attacked the Gulf Arab countries.

  • The Gulf Arab countries are prosperous and relatively well developed now. None of them want to see their developed countries sent back to the stone age because of a war with Israel.

  • The Gulf Arabs have contained Israel and are quite capable of managing their relationship without the direction of western know it alls. Israel is nothing to them in the general scheme of things. Nor do they care much for the Palestinians.

  • Iraq fought a brutal war with iran and still carries a grudge. They will not die for Iran now, no matter how much they dislike Israel.

Only westerners are obsessed with supporting the Iranian regime. They are too stupid to understand that the Iranians are Shiite, while most Arabs are Sunni. The sight of western diaspora Iranians in the hundreds of thousands rallying on behalf of Israel must upset these westerners even more.

The people taking to the streets in the west to protest against Israel and the USA are the extremist leftists, Pakistanis and Bengalis. The millions of Syrian refugees who are in the west know that Iran kept Assad in power and the Iranian proxy army Hezbollah, was used by Assad to kill Syrians. Arabs won't shed any tears if israelis die in a conflict with iran, but they certainly are not going to defend Iran with anything other thn lip service.

The Samson option is misinterpreted The explanation offered in this thread of what the doctrine is, is based upon the incorrect interpretation of Kelsey Davenport, an anti nuclear arms activist.

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35 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

This topic is more political posturing presented under the guise of "discussion".

So then, based on your entire comment, would you not say that my choice to post my Topic in the Farang-Pub was not the lesser of all evils?

Also, going back to your comment here: Are you saying that Sachs is just one more example of some "western know it all" , or are you saying that....

The REAL and TRUE "know it all" is none other than TRUMP, himself?

Concerning Davenport....would you say, or disagree, that this blurb from Wikipedia is accurate or inaccurate:

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And, according to Sachs....

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But, more importantly, what are your personal views concerning the Samson Option, in light of recent events, now continuing to unfold?

Would you say that Bibi would .... Go For It....and under what circumstance?

Is Bibi trigger happy?

At 76, there is not doubt he cannot have all his marbles intact, as if....

He ever did...of course.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

What does the Book of Revelations predict?

There's your clue right there as to what will likely happen in the Middle East.

It's been prophesized by Ezekiel.

Yes, this is correct. And Isaiah.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Is this genuine geopolitical analysis or just fear-mongering disguised as geopolitical insight?

That’s exactly what it is. Hyperbolic fear mongering, disjointed but dressed up as pseudo intellectual cyber babble. His posts are always like this, badly structured sentences, scattered thoughts, reads like a hyperactive kid on a sugar rush. It is all sensationalism and hype, mixed with a warped worldview and fixation on theocratic icons and avatars.

That is why I only responded to the video. It was the only part that had any substance.

As for Jeff Sachs, he seems well intentioned, but he comes off more like a useful idiot than someone who actually understands the full scope of the topics he tries to tackle. Too much personal bias, not enough balanced analysis.

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1 hour ago, Kyoto Kyle said:

As for Jeff Sachs, he seems well intentioned, but he comes off more like a useful idiot

Useful in exactly WHAT way, might I ask?

I mean, in what way, EXACTLY, are idiots useful to you?

Care to elaborate a bit more?

6 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Useful in exactly WHAT way, might I ask?

I mean, in what way, EXACTLY, are idiots useful to you?

Care to elaborate a bit more?

Idiots are rarely useful in any meaningful sense. Their only real value emerges in the attention economy, where spectacle matters more than substance. In that context, they become tools for the media, drawing eyes, generating clicks, and driving engagement. That is the role he is playing here, and he has clearly captured your attention, which in turn makes him useful to the media. By drawing you in, he has enabled you to draw others in as well. His actions generate profit for the media, which is the only reason he is considered useful at all. Remove that dynamic, and what remains is simply an idiot.

6 hours ago, Kyoto Kyle said:

As for Jeff Sachs, he seems well intentioned, but he comes off more like a useful idiot

No, he doesn't seem well intentioned.

He seems like a spin doctor to me.

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1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

No, he doesn't seem well intentioned.

He seems like a spin doctor to me.

Spin Doctor?

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So, you are telling me that Jeff is making the Bad News of Trump's invasion of Iran look like....

Some Hawaiian Girl in a grass skirt?

52 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Some Hawaiian Girl in a grass skirt?

I was sort of alluding to that.

But you are asking the wrong questions.

What you should be asking is "But Where is Moshiach?"

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

No, he doesn't seem well intentioned.

He seems like a spin doctor to me.

I had watched this video with him about 10 days ago on CNBC. At that time he seemed to be more on the page. I assume before these interviews they tell them what narratives to follow, and then he spews to the beat of the drum. That’s how and why he gets paid for his time. Simple formula. Roll him out, give him the script, kaching.

4 minutes ago, Kyoto Kyle said:

Roll him out, give him the script, kaching.

It's a controlled script, with hidden agendas. They tell you what they want you to know.

I follow crackpots. The crackpots are shooting in the dark. They don't necessarily know everything, they don't have access to insider information because they don't have friends at the Pentagon. However, they can be pretty smart and put clues together and it's mostly more accurate than mainstream stuff.

But so many theories out there about this war, so hard to know what's going on.

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