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Regarding the recent news about the "rescued" pilot. Why haven't they shown him on TV yet? It would be great propaganda for USA. Anyway, I was thinking to myself, why the f**k would they fly the huge, slow C-130 plane for a rescue mission, when stealth and speed are critical? And why were those C-130s shot down so far away from the original lost pilots crash?

Then an expert explained the C-130s were part of a task force to secure the area for a boots on the ground invasion force. The C-130s were carrying troops (about 130 men each). 2 C-130s were shot down, which is about 260 american deaths, plus the additional 10 air vehicles shot down, with even more american deaths. This makes much more sense than the official american story.

This is an absolute disaster for america. It explains why Trump was hysterical posting on X. He will be roasted by the press once this news gets out.

I’m not saying you’re wrong - but this feels like a conclusion looking for evidence, not the other way round.

On the actual facts we do have:

- No C-130 were shot down. What is reported is that two MC-130s were destroyed by US forces on the ground because they couldn’t be recovered. That’s standard - you don’t leave sensitive kit sitting in enemy territory.

- The “10 aircraft shot down” claim seems is from Iranian statements, which obviously aren’t neutral. Western reporting doesn’t back that up at all. At most, some helicopters took fire and got out.

- The idea that ~260 troops were killed is where it really falls apart. You don’t hide that in 2026. Families, hospitals, foreign intel, journalists - it leaks fast. There’s been nothing credible even hinting at losses on that scale.

- And on the aircraft point - they weren’t just “big slow C-130s”. These were MC-130 special operations aircraft, literally built for this exact job - low-level, night insertion, rough landing zones, spec ops support. Using them isn’t weird, it’s exactly how its done...

So what you’ve got here is:

- Iranian claims

- A few confirmed facts (aircraft destroyed by US, pilot recovered)

- Then a big jump into assumptions

…and suddenly it turns into “hundreds dead” and a hidden disaster.

On the media angle - it’s a no-win situation anyway when politcal bias enters the fray....

- If they don’t show the rescued airman - that equals “something’s being hidden.”

- If they do show the rescued airman - that equals “propaganda,” “staged,” or “exploiting an injured serviceman.”

That’s just where things are now. People decide the conclusion first, then fit everything around it.

Extraordinary claims need actual evidence. Right now, there just isn’t any - I also wonder why we have not seen more and why there has not been more information - but the void is not evidence of a conspiracy.

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1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

I’m not saying you’re wrong - but this feels like a conclusion looking for evidence, not the other way round.

On the actual facts we do have:

- No C-130 were shot down. What is reported is that two MC-130s were destroyed by US forces on the ground because they couldn’t be recovered. That’s standard - you don’t leave sensitive kit sitting in enemy territory.

- The “10 aircraft shot down” claim seems is from Iranian statements, which obviously aren’t neutral. Western reporting doesn’t back that up at all. At most, some helicopters took fire and got out.

- The idea that ~260 troops were killed is where it really falls apart. You don’t hide that in 2026. Families, hospitals, foreign intel, journalists - it leaks fast. There’s been nothing credible even hinting at losses on that scale.

- And on the aircraft point - they weren’t just “big slow C-130s”. These were MC-130 special operations aircraft, literally built for this exact job - low-level, night insertion, rough landing zones, spec ops support. Using them isn’t weird, it’s exactly how its done...

So what you’ve got here is:

- Iranian claims

- A few confirmed facts (aircraft destroyed by US, pilot recovered)

- Then a big jump into assumptions

…and suddenly it turns into “hundreds dead” and a hidden disaster.

On the media angle - it’s a no-win situation anyway when politcal bias enters the fray....

- If they don’t show the rescued airman - that equals “something’s being hidden.”

- If they do show the rescued airman - that equals “propaganda,” “staged,” or “exploiting an injured serviceman.”

That’s just where things are now. People decide the conclusion first, then fit everything around it.

Extraordinary claims need actual evidence. Right now, there just isn’t any - I also wonder why we have not seen more and why there has not been more information - but the void is not evidence of a conspiracy.

Start topic is full of incorrect information and assumptions also the event happened in Iran not in Israel, so no point moving the topic anywhere else.

As this event is also discussed elsewhere this topic can be closed.

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