17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Remember the left claiming SCOTUS was Trump's puppet?

No it still is unless it rules they way they want LOL.

You cannot be a lefty without being a hypocrite.

Just heard on the news that the Iranians have graciously granted Trump's pleading request for them to return to the negotiating table, and that the Iranian FM is expected in islamabad tonite.

And in the Pentagon, Pete is just now holding a press conference trying to gloss over the fact that Iran has the US by the short and curlies.

It's fascinating to watch anyone so totally over their head.

Looking forward to hearing how many pallets of money Trump will have to pay the Iranians to allow for the withdrawal of US forces from the area.

Of course, anything agreed can be obliterated when Bad Grandpa puts his PJ on and starts posting like a raving lunatic.🤣

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Just heard on the news that the Iranians have graciously granted Trump's pleading request for them to return to the negotiating table, and that the Iranian FM is expected in islamabad tonite.

And in the Pentagon, Pete is just now holding a press conference trying to gloss over the fact that Iran has the US by the short and curlies.

It's fascinating to watch anyone so totally over their head.

Looking forward to hearing how many pallets of money Trump will have to pay the Iranians to allow for the withdrawal of US forces from the area.

Of course, anything agreed can be obliterated when Bad Grandpa puts his PJ on and starts posting like a raving lunatic.🤣

Translation: My heroes are pleading for mercy.

Every day the Strait is closed it costs Iran ~$450 million, and it cost the USA virtually nothing.

The left would have us believe that Iran controls the Strait, yet Iran cannot move their ships through,

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Every day the Strait is closed it costs Iran ~$450 million, and it cost the USA virtually nothing.

The left would have us believe that Iran controls the Strait, yet Iran cannot move their ships through,

So what? How commercial traffic doing.

And it costs the US nothing? I guess if you exempt a huge majority of people living in the US, it costs the US nothing. But my idea of the US includes those people. On this idea of what constitutes the USA, clearly you and I differ.

4 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

So what? How commercial traffic doing.

I was only pointing out that leftists were claiming Iran was controlling the Strait, but the fact that Iran can not get through proves they are liars.

4 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And it costs the US nothing? I guess if you exempt a huge majority of people living in the US, it costs the US nothing. But my idea of the US includes those people. On this idea of what constitutes the USA, clearly you and I differ.

Now you are lying to try and make a point. I did not say it costed the USA nothing, you just made that up.

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Every day the Strait is closed it costs Iran ~$450 million, and it cost the USA virtually nothing.

The left would have us believe that Iran controls the Strait, yet Iran cannot move their ships through,

And the Irg can’t be paid

1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said:

And the Irg can’t be paid

I'm sure the mucky-mucks are fine, the rank and file, not so much.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Every day the Strait is closed it costs Iran ~$450 million, and it cost the USA virtually nothing.

Rubbish ! its costing the US far more not just in toilet paper $ which they they can print without restriction

but not for much longer as the Petro Dollar is coming to an end China calling in the dept other countries will probably follow..Iran has shown that it can stand up against the bully boys US/Israel and fight them to a standstill while still holding the global economy by the 'straights' of Hormuz.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I was only pointing out that leftists were claiming Iran was controlling the Strait, but the fact that Iran can not get through proves they are liars.

Now you are lying to try and make a point. I did not say it costed the USA nothing, you just made that up.

You think "virtually" makes a significant difference? And you believe that the resulting inflation from the Iran War is costing America automobile owners virtually nothing? American farmers and American truckers haven't experienced virtually no increase in the way of economic pain?

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You think "virtually" makes a significant difference? And you believe that the resulting inflation from the Iran War is costing America auotomobile owners virtually nothing? American farmers and American truckers haven't experienced virtually no increase in the way of economic pain?

Yes, I do, as do you, otherwise you would not have lied.

Yes, people will have to pay more, but a lot of people think it's worth it.

You don't, I assume you, like Obama, believe Iran should believe Iran should be allowed to continue developing their nuclear and ballistic missile programs, yes?

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm sure the mucky-mucks are fine, the rank and file, not so much.

Funny how they have big bucks in UK real estate

7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And you believe that the resulting inflation from the Iran War is costing America automobile owners virtually nothing? American farmers and American truckers haven't experienced virtually no increase in the way of economic pain?

No pain, no gain. Its worth it.

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I was only pointing out that leftists were claiming Iran was controlling the Strait, but the fact that Iran can not get through proves they are liars.

Yes Iranian ships can get through the strait, they get blocked somewhere in the Arabian sea which is after the strait.

Non Iranian ship get can not pass the strait to get in the Arabian sea, so yes Iran controls the strait

3 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Yes Iranian ships can get through the strait, they get blocked somewhere in the Arabian sea which is after the strait.

Non Iranian ship get can not pass the strait to get in the Arabian sea, so yes Iran controls the strait

How many have gotten through?

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, I do, as do you, otherwise you would not have lied.

Yes, people will have to pay more, but a lot of people think it's worth it.

You don't, I assume you, like Obama, believe Iran should believe Iran should be allowed to continue developing their nuclear and ballistic missile programs, yes?

Iran don't have a nuclear programme. It was obliterated in June of last year. How do I know that? Because Trump and Pete said so. And if we can't trust those guys, who can we trust!!

PS. Do you believe you should be allowed to continue your pathological gaslighting?

As long as it makes Trump look bad, Iran can kill as many Hews, homosexuals and protesters they want, and the left will support them.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How many have gotten through?

All Iranian ships have got through the Strait of Hormuz, they were blocked in the Arabian Sea.

ZERO non - Iranian ships went through the Strait of Hormuz, because Iran prevented it, and even seized 2 ships.

So Iran is definitely controlling who can go through the Strait of Hormuz

Oh wait, you now want to change what you claimed, and you dare to call others liars?

Here is your claim again

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, I do, as do you, otherwise you would not have lied.

Yes, people will have to pay more, but a lot of people think it's worth it.

You don't, I assume you, like Obama, believe Iran should believe Iran should be allowed to continue developing their nuclear and ballistic missile programs, yes?

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, I do, as do you, otherwise you would not have lied.

Yes, people will have to pay more, but a lot of people think it's worth it.

You don't, I assume you, like Obama, believe Iran should believe Iran should be allowed to continue developing their nuclear and ballistic missile programs, yes?

Got to love your reasoning. On the one hand people will have to pay more. On the other, a lot of people think it's worth it. It is to laugh.

And, of course, virtually the only available evidence shows that most Americans don't think it's worth it. But I guess in your estimation, most Americans don't count.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Got to love your reasoning. On the one hand people will have to pay more. On the other, a lot of people think it's worth it. It is to laugh.

Why is it to laugh?

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And, of course, virtually the only available evidence shows that most Americans don't think it's worth it. But I guess in your estimation, most Americans don't count.

I said a lot of people, not most people, you seem to lie incessantly. Is that all you have? It is to laugh.

Again, do you like Obama, believe Iran should be allowed to continue developing their nuclear and ballistic missile programs?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Why is it to laugh?

I said a lot of people, not most people, you seem to lie incessantly. Is that all you have? It is to laugh.

Again, do you like Obama, believe Iran should be allowed to continue developing their nuclear and ballistic missile programs?

Again, do you believe you should be allowed to continue your pathological gaslighting?

26 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

No pain, no gain. Its worth it.

Most Americans don't think so.

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

All Iranian ships have got through the Strait of Hormuz, they were blocked in the Arabian Sea.

ZERO non - Iranian ships went through the Strait of Hormuz, because Iran prevented it, and even seized 2 ships.

So Iran is definitely controlling who can go through the Strait of Hormuz

Oh wait, you now want to change what you claimed, and you dare to call others liars?

Here is your claim again

How many is "all"? Does that include all the Iranian ships that were sunk? You just can't make it up fast enough, can you?

Did a couple US Navy ships get through the other day?

Even if they are backed up in the Arabian Sea, they can't sell any oil.

27 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Most Americans don't think so.

Im sure you have picked your poll LOL.

Tough love, baby. Going to be ticker tape material, completely destroy the enemy with virtually no casualties

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Im sure you have picked your poll LOL.

Tough love, baby. Going to be ticker tape material, completely destroy the enemy with virtually no casualties

As I pointed out, it's the averag of aggragate sof most major polls. And real clear politics is owned by some very right-wing people.

22 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How many is "all"? Does that include all the Iranian ships that were sunk? You just can't make it up fast enough, can you?

Did a couple US Navy ships get through the other day?

Even if they are backed up in the Arabian Sea, they can't sell any oil.

You really should stop trolling and making things up when you're called out on it.

We are talking the period during the ceasefire and the US blocked ships somewhere AFTER the Strait.

No US Navy ships went through THE OTHER day, they went through about 2 weeks ago, after the US declared a ceasefire, and Iran ALLOWED them to pass.

No Iranian ships were sunk since the ceasefire.

6 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

You really should stop trolling and making things up when you're called out on it.

We are talking the period during the ceasefire and the US blocked ships somewhere AFTER the Strait.

No US Navy ships went through THE OTHER day, they went through about 2 weeks ago, after the US declared a ceasefire, and Iran ALLOWED them to pass.

No Iranian ships were sunk since the ceasefire.

So how many?

I think it's safe to say the ships that were sunk did not make it through, yes?

Have any Iranian ships have delivered their cargo?

Any update on the Iranian ship that had the engine room shot out when it tried to run the strait?

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24 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So how many?

I think it's safe to say the ships that were sunk did not make it through, yes?

Have any Iranian ships have delivered their cargo?

Any update on the Iranian ship that had the engine room shot out when it tried to run the strait?

No ships were sunk during the ceasefire, and none of the ships sunk at the start of the war 6 weeks ago, were oil tankers or container ship.

No Ship had the engine room shot in the strait. The US CLAIMS they shot an engine room AFTER it had passed through the strait, but so far I haven't seen any evidence of it either.

MANY Iranian ships delivered their cargo to China BEFORE the blockade

Now this is my last reply to you, because you can't stop lying and trolling obviously, and I'm not gonna waste more time on you.

13 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

No ships were sunk during the ceasefire, and none of the ships sunk at the start of the war 6 weeks ago, were oil tankers or container ship.

I said nothing of the ceasefire, or what type of ships they were. You just made that part up.

13 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

No Ship had the engine room shot in the strait. The US CLAIMS they shot an engine room AFTER it had passed through the strait, but so far I haven't seen any evidence of it either.

I said nothing of it being shot in the strait, I said it tried to run the strait and was disabled and subsequently seized. Even Al Jazeera reported it.

13 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

MANY Iranian ships delivered their cargo to China BEFORE the blockade

Sure, that's what IRAN CLAIMS, but so far, I haven't seen any evidence of it either, see how that works?

In any event, since the US blockade relived Iran of controlling the strait, no Iranian ships have been able to deliver their cargo and Iran is losing $450M a day, and will do so as long as the US keeps it blocked,

13 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Now this is my last reply to you, because you can't stop lying and trolling obviously, and I'm not gonna waste more time on you.

Yes, we all know why, go with God brother,

16 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Im sure you have picked your poll LOL.

Tough love, baby. Going to be ticker tape material, completely destroy the enemy with virtually no casualties

Yeah, it's gonna be a parade for the ages!🤣