2 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

So if someone moves house, does the first IO send all the data they have on you to the next one, IF you do a TM30.

No, the new IO will set up a new profile for you.
Each IO has there own local database with their own unique passcodes.

9 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

My IO here knew that I had been to UK last year before I told them.

They can check if they know the passcode for the mainframe database, or you missed a 90 day report, or someone told them.

Why do you think you have to (usually) make the first 90 day report after departing and re-entering?

The last time I made an in person 90 day report after exiting and re-entering, the IO came back to me and stated he was having a problem locating my previous report.

I told him to check my stamps and that answered his question. Usually to lazy to check.

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Say that at anytime after your last extension you spend down the money to a point where you know you won't qualify for the next extension.

That happens accidentally to some people but I'm talking more about intentionally such as a planned last year in Thailand.

At the moment you go into non-compliance for the NEXT extension, are you still LEGAL for the current extension, or not?

Theoretically, no, because that extension was based on your agreement to comply with the conditions of the permit of stay.
However, provided you have no reason to show Immigration the status of funds throughout the year, then they'd be non the wiser.

If for any reason you had to update and present a bankbook within that 12 month period, then the game is up, and your current extension would be revoked and you could face an overstay fine.

1 hour ago, Liquorice said:

If for any reason you had to update and present a bankbook within that 12 month period, then the game is up, and your current extension would be revoked and you could face an overstay fine.

That is correct however if someone failed financial compliance (as I did all be it for two days) then you would not present to immigration for service that requires bank bank.

At CW (as I posted) bank book was required for stamp transfer to new pp.

If non compliant you would simply not bother with transfer

This topic comes up every once in awhile and it is a good question.

Now if we interpret the rules exactly as they're written the minute you fail to keep your obligation and follow the terms of the extension you're on your extension is in theory void.

I say that because I have sat next to people who failed to meet the seasoning requirements and have had them told by immigrations that they were on overstay since the day they failed to meet the requirements.

In one case a person had only left his 800k in for 90 days after his extension was granted not three calendar months date to date and he was caught out on it the following year. Putting him on a theoretical 9 month overstay.

However in practicality if you have no need to go to the immigration office, once you get your yearly extension inked into your passport, even if you fail to meet the requirements by pulling the money out no one will know and you could leave the country at the end of the extension without any repercussions.

You have broken the terms of your visa extension the day your 800'000 fell below the required amount.Your visa extension is cancelled and you are on overstay.

You do not get a free pass until the next renewal date.

8 minutes ago, jippytum said:

You have broken the terms of your visa extension the day your 800'000 fell below the required amount.Your visa extension is cancelled and you are on overstay.

You do not get a free pass until the next renewal date.

And immigration knows that because...?

37 minutes ago, BrandonJT said:

And immigration knows that because...?

you have to present your self soonrg or later

10 minutes ago, jippytum said:

you have to present your self soonrg or later

The question is based on someone intending to leave at the end of their extension.

On 4/18/2026 at 8:11 PM, Jingthing said:

It's not something I plan on doing now but it is a common enough thing for retirees who are having their last year in Thailand or other personal reasons.

29 minutes ago, jippytum said:

you have to present your self soonrg or later

you don't show your bank book when exiting.... I left in early March and let my retirement extension run down.

Came back a week ago on E Visa single entry (marriage). Start again........

16 hours ago, Liquorice said:

No, the database that records arrivals and departures at border checkpoints is completely separate to the 70+ local Immigration offices databases.

I'm not sure about that, as one year having my photo taken by the IO, I was able to see my ins and outs on the IOs computer (I was travelling in and out around that time).

16 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

I'm not sure about that, as one year having my photo taken by the IO, I was able to see my ins and outs on the IOs computer (I was travelling in and out around that time).

You obviously missed this part;

16 hours ago, Liquorice said:

They can check if they know the passcode for the mainframe database, or you missed a 90 day report, or someone told them.

Why do you think you have to (usually) make the first 90 day report after departing and re-entering?

The last time I made an in person 90 day report after exiting and re-entering, the IO came back to me and stated he was having a problem locating my previous report.

I told him to check my stamps and that answered his question. Usually to lazy to check.

They have to log in and out of different databases.

On 4/18/2026 at 8:11 PM, Jingthing said:

This is something I've been curious about for awhile.

It's not something I plan on doing now but it is a common enough thing for retirees who are having their last year in Thailand or other personal reasons.

So here's the scenario.

You're on a current retirement extension based on the 800K in a Thai bank account method.

You know to qualify for NEXT YEAR's extension you'll need to maintain at 800K for three months after the extension, two months before the next extension and no lower than 400K the rest of the year.

HOWEVER, here's the rub.

Say that at anytime after your last extension you spend down the money to a point where you know you won't qualify for the next extension.

That happens accidentally to some people but I'm talking more about intentionally such as a planned last year in Thailand.

At the moment you go into non-compliance for the NEXT extension, are you still LEGAL for the current extension, or not?

If not legal, so what? Immigration doesn't look at your balance throughout the year.

Unless the bank reports you. Do the banks report that to immigration? Maybe depends on the bank?

So there's the question and I think it's an important one.

You would had already qualified for the current extension, so if you do not wish to go for next years extension then you can do as you wish with the money if later in the year you decide you want to go back home.

You do not need 800k in the bank to be able to leave Thailand. 😃

6 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

This topic comes up every once in awhile and it is a good question.

Now if we interpret the rules exactly as they're written the minute you fail to keep your obligation and follow the terms of the extension you're on your extension is in theory void.

I say that because I have sat next to people who failed to meet the seasoning requirements and have had them told by immigrations that they were on overstay since the day they failed to meet the requirements.

In one case a person had only left his 800k in for 90 days after his extension was granted not three calendar months date to date and he was caught out on it the following year. Putting him on a theoretical 9 month overstay.

However in practicality if you have no need to go to the immigration office, once you get your yearly extension inked into your passport, even if you fail to meet the requirements by pulling the money out no one will know and you could leave the country at the end of the extension without any repercussions.

and if you use an agent for the next extension Immigration won't care

On 4/19/2026 at 7:58 AM, zzzzz said:

if what ur saying is true , everyone using an agent to obtain the extension (cause not having the funds) would be on a invalid extension and one would then when they did their 90 report or went in for a cor, ( if immigration requested a bank book) they would be arrested, jailed and or deported
and for sure when they went for their next extension, would be up sh@ts creek without a paddle
ur way , would need obtain a new non o and extension, which is not true

This is a good point... the truth is Yes !

everyone of them obtaining Visa's via agents 'Bank Dressing' required funds are on illegal Visa's & thus Extensions. But lets not talk about the Facts, shush.... It's ok, its Thailand lol

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

and if you use an agent for the next extension Immigration won't care

Or if you intended leaving Thailand at the end of the extension (if only you'd read what the OP posted) why care about agents.

27 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Or if you intended leaving Thailand at the end of the extension (if only you'd read what the OP posted) why care about agents.

You're so rigid in your thinking, some people might change their mind, or might make an error mid year as mentioned, so as I said can always change your mind anytime use an agent and stay, now you go back to sleep

5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

You're so rigid in your thinking, some people might change their mind, or might make an error mid year as mentioned, so as I said can always change your mind anytime use an agent and stay, now you go back to sleep

Already answered in the thread.

I once enquired if you used an agent, to which you answered no, you used the funds method.
I therefore wonder why you constantly post the use of an agent. I'm beginning to think your an agent for agents.

9 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Already answered in the thread.

I once enquired if you used an agent, to which you answered no, you used the funds method.
I therefore wonder why you constantly post the use of an agent. I'm beginning to think your an agent for agents.

You're imagining things, i used an agent the first time, useful sometimes

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

....some people might change their mind, or might make an error mid year as mentioned, so as I said can always change your mind anytime use an agent and stay....

I'm on your page.

As posted I made a slip re funds in bank.

I had 3 options.

Skip applying for next extension and exit Thailand and either obtain Non O eVisa and reenter.. Or even bounce and enter visa exempt and start over (first option better)

OR... Use an agent. That's almost my option sooner rather than later due to immobility.

Just off topic note for others: Thailand does not provide good options for those that are not able to attend immigration. Future planning is required.