8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

No. Nothing has been proven. You have the DOJ with a very poor track record making an allegation. It has yet to be substantiated, nor proven.

A grand Jury dissagres with you.

55 minutes ago, Slowhand225 said:

A grand Jury dissagres with you.

Words from the top of the indictment: The Grand Jury charges:

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The indictment is more than fraud.

11 indictments, there i fixed it for ya.

1. 6 counts of wire fraud

2. 4 counts of false statements to a federally insured bank (bank fraud)

3. 1 count of conspiracy to commit concealment money laundering.

OR:

Counts 1-6 were payments made using money allegedly illegally obtained from defrauded donors

4 counts to defraud a bank in 2016 (statute limitations?)

1 count for money laundering which would only apply if counts 1-6 were in fact determined to be illegal

Hoodwink 8 hate group leaders — including KKK Imperial Wizard and neo-Nazi — got millions from SPLC as part of ‘informant’ scheme: DOJ

The far left got caught enabling dormant extremist,using Soro's funds. There goes their Marxist narrative of white supremacy .

https://nypost.com/2026/04/22/us-news/southern-poverty-law-center-backers-include-george-soros-jpmorgan-george-clooney-openai/

The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted Tuesday for allegedly using funds to secretly pay leaders of violent extremist groups to act as confidential informants without telling donors, acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said.

The system went against the SPLC’s promise to fight against violent extremist groups, Blanche said in a news conference Tuesday, adding that the organization was required to be transparent with donors about what their money was going towards.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/21/politics/splc-justice-department-criminal-investigation

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Under federal law, 501(c)(3) organizations are required to make their three most recently filed annual information returns (IRS Form 990) and their application for tax exemption available for public inspection, but they are not required to disclose line-item, sensitive, or day-to-day operational details to donors.

While organizations must report overall program service expenses and executive compensation, specific tactics or confidential, high-stakes investigations do not need to be revealed to the general public or individual donors.

https://www.councilofnonprofits.org/running-nonprofit/ethics-accountability/financial-transparency-and-public-disclosure-requirements

One death occurred as a result of their fraud funding , I'd like to see them be held accountable. The far left turning all the stats around when it comes to violence

Re Fraud funding under 18USC 1343:

Under 18 U.S.C. § 1343 (Wire Fraud), a donor who would have made different decisions if they had received all information is central to establishing a "material" misrepresentation or omission. To secure a conviction, the government must prove that the defendant engaged in a scheme to defraud, with a specific intent to deceive, using material misstatements or omissions, and used interstate wire communications in furtherance of that scheme.

https://www.kenneylegaldefense.us/federal-wire-fraud-law-18-usc-1343

REDUX as posted above:

The charges, as per the statute, are that the fraud lies in, if the donors were better informed as to where their donations were actually being used, they might not have donated.

It might also be, if the donors were better informed as to actually where their money was going, they might have given more.

4 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:

A grand Jury dissagres with you.

Do you understand that only the prosecution provides evidence to the grand jury? Do you understand that an indictment is not a conviction?

13 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Do you understand that only the prosecution provides evidence to the grand jury? Do you understand that an indictment is not a conviction?

Do you understand that, if the SPLC gets donations from George Soros and George Clooney, they must be guilty of something?

5 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Do you understand that, if the SPLC gets donations from George Soros and George Clooney, thery must be guilty of something?

Not only do I understand that, but I also understand that no matter how what the percentage of their total funding comes from George Soros, that means they are still taking orders from him and only from him.

Wow, America is a great place. Where else is there so little actual racism that it needs to be funded and encouraged by anti-racism groups, sot that they have an actual enemy to confront?

Jusse Smollet (sp) case on steroids.

On 4/22/2026 at 5:41 AM, Yagoda said:

Another Leftist hate group is exposed.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-says-southern-poverty-law-center-funneled-3m-white-supremacist-extremist-groups

Guess some of the "many fine people on both sides" were being paid to provoke trouble.

Utter tripe...pure victimisation because of their undercover work to expose right wing extremism.

6 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

Utter tripe...pure victimisation because of their undercover work to expose right wing extremism.

LOL...sounds more like False Flag operations than operations to expose.

Funny how they were putting these loons in their fundraising newsletter as being bad boys while paying them to be bad boys LOL

But hey stay in your Socialist bubble. They are famous for operations such as this

7 hours ago, JerryM said:

t might also be, if the donors were better informed as to actually where their money was going, they might have given more.

Doubtful, these groups are such a bunch of losers they needed to be funded by the Left lol

7 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Do you understand that only the prosecution provides evidence to the grand jury? Do you understand that an indictment is not a conviction?

Unless its a Republican indicted. Then its front page

6 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Wow, America is a great place. Where else is there so little actual racism that it needs to be funded and encouraged by anti-racism groups, sot that they have an actual enemy to confront?

Jusse Smollet (sp) case on steroids.

Traditional Leftist technique. Fund some crazies to commit crimes, then use the crimes to crackdown and get a bigger budget.

For those of you who like to see how nothing is new, google Yevno Azeff.

13 hours ago, JerryM said:

It's nice to be sure.

RE: Those days were over in 1968,

What is the SPLC?

Alabama lawyer Morris Dees founded the organization in 1971, starting a civil rights-focused law practice for people who were poor or disenfranchised. At the time, federal laws and US supreme court rulings designed to end Jim Crow-era segregation were still fairly new, and widespread resistance to desegregation persisted in the south.

People who faced continued discrimination often struggled to find attorneys who were willing to represent them in court; lawyers were reluctant to bring the first lawsuits to test the civil rights laws.

The Guardian via https://archive.ph/AgMio#selection-1471.0-1479.202

Oh OK, got me for a few years. When I graduated HS in 1973, racists were on the run. We had no Klan, I rmember they tried and got laughed out of town. In point of fact, this isnt the first time the SPLC has had problems, they were an admirable organization until they turned into a Socialist Arm.

But, its all going to come out isnt it. Just like all misconduct eventually sees the light of day.

PS I just saw Chuckie Schumer preaching the Dem line, which is the SPLC line, which is the line among the Socialist cadre here. All in unison.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Traditional Leftist technique. Fund some crazies to commit crimes, then use the crimes to crackdown and get a bigger budget.

For those of you who like to see how nothing is new, google Yevno Azeff.

Fantastic. Now, go and punch in the name Genrikh Yagoda. Real charmer, would have been put to good use by Bibi had he lived today.

14 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:

A grand Jury dissagres with you.

Do you know what a grand jury is or does? Perhaps you start with that and then come back and tell us about criminal prosecution process. A Grand Jury procedure is not a trial, nor is its decision a finding of guilt.

8 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Wow, America is a great place. Where else is there so little actual racism that it needs to be funded and encouraged by anti-racism groups, sot that they have an actual enemy to confront?

Jusse Smollet (sp) case on steroids.

Or they were paying informers. You missed that part.

56 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Fantastic. Now, go and punch in the name Genrikh Yagoda. Real charmer, would have been put to good use by Bibi had he lived today.

Well doubtful, since he was a Socialist. A murderer too as required by Socialism. Why is he relevant though?

32 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Or they were paying informers. You missed that part.

So if you are paying an informer and the informer commits a crime?

Curious, If the Charlottesville fiasco was a false flag by the SPLCC what would you say?

19 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So if you are paying an informer and the informer commits a crime?

Curious, If the Charlottesville fiasco was a false flag by the SPLCC what would you say?

It would depend on if you were paying the informer to commit a crime. Is there any evidence that these informers also committed crimes at the SPLCC's behest? That doesn't appear in the charges so why are you bring it up?

And if the assassination attempt on Trump was part of a conspiracy to get him re-elected what would you say? I hope you would say what I would say to your question, I have no use for far-fetched conspiratorial allegations.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

It would depend on if you were paying the informer to commit a crime. Is there any evidence that these informers also committed crimes at the SPLCC's behest? That doesn't appear in the charges so why are you bring it up?

LOL, I dont know what was presented to the grand jury, I dont know if there is a superseding indictment for persons inbound, I dont know what the loons they were paying have been saying to the Feds, all I have is the indictment which factually in and of itself can have a reasonable inference attached thereto.

Why are you defending these long time Socialist operatives btw?

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And if the assassination attempt on Trump was part of a conspiracy to get him re-elected what would you say? I hope you would say what I would say to your question, I have no use for far-fetched conspiratorial allegations.

LOL. Got it. A conspiracy theory with no facts vs a theory (only to do with the SPLC) with factual allegations.

Enjoy your knee jerk life LOL.

So for years, they told us that the most dangerous threat facing America was white supremacy. They put it in mailers. They put it on billboards. They put it in congressional testimony. They put it in FBI briefings. And they told everyone who would listen that without the Southern Poverty Law Center, the SPLC, standing in the breach, the clan would be running the country.

The organization that for decades served as the left's premier instrument of reputational destruction against conservatives, Christians, and anyone who dared to disagree with the progressive agenda.

George Clooney believed them, wrote them a million dollar cheque. Apple's Tim Cook believed them. Also wrote them a million-dollar cheque. JP Morgan Chase wrote them a half a million dollar cheque. And now we're finding out, thanks to a grand jury indictment, that the money was allegedly going straight into the pockets of the very people and organisations that the SPLC told us they were fighting.

So they concocted the very hate they used to fill their own coffers.

Nice work if you can get it.

29 minutes ago, nexus7 said:

So for years, they told us that the most dangerous threat facing America was white supremacy. They put it in mailers. They put it on billboards. They put it in congressional testimony. They put it in FBI briefings. And they told everyone who would listen that without the Southern Poverty Law Center, the SPLC, standing in the breach, the clan would be running the country.

The organization that for decades served as the left's premier instrument of reputational destruction against conservatives, Christians, and anyone who dared to disagree with the progressive agenda.

George Clooney believed them, wrote them a million dollar cheque. Apple's Tim Cook believed them. Also wrote them a million-dollar cheque. JP Morgan Chase wrote them a half a million dollar cheque. And now we're finding out, thanks to a grand jury indictment, that the money was allegedly going straight into the pockets of the very people and organisations that the SPLC told us they were fighting.

So they concocted the very hate they used to fill their own coffers.

Nice work if you can get it.

Bravo. And the same folks who defend them are responsible for all the hoaxes: Russia Gate, Alphagate, Ukraine Gate. Its all coming out in dribs and drabs.

Wonder what was in the burn bags.

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Do you know what a grand jury is or does? Perhaps you start with that and then come back and tell us about criminal prosecution process. A Grand Jury procedure is not a trial, nor is its decision a finding of guilt.

So you're telling the class that the grand jury did NOT find sufficient evidence for probable cause ? Really ? Where'd you go to school ?

3 hours ago, nexus7 said:

So for years, they told us that the most dangerous threat facing America was white supremacy. They put it in mailers. They put it on billboards. They put it in congressional testimony. They put it in FBI briefings. And they told everyone who would listen that without the Southern Poverty Law Center, the SPLC, standing in the breach, the clan would be running the country.

The organization that for decades served as the left's premier instrument of reputational destruction against conservatives, Christians, and anyone who dared to disagree with the progressive agenda.

George Clooney believed them, wrote them a million dollar cheque. Apple's Tim Cook believed them. Also wrote them a million-dollar cheque. JP Morgan Chase wrote them a half a million dollar cheque. And now we're finding out, thanks to a grand jury indictment, that the money was allegedly going straight into the pockets of the very people and organisations that the SPLC told us they were fighting.

So they concocted the very hate they used to fill their own coffers.

Nice work if you can get it.

You get it. Well said!

If your playin by the far left's(communist,socialist,marxist & anarchist) playbook ,its similar to the Stalin's/ Stasi tactics of political dirty tricks.

Controlled Sabotage, slandered targets(TPUSA ,etc),infiltrate groups to sow distrust and conflict. Everything is on the table with far leftism.

4 hours ago, nexus7 said:

George Clooney believed them, wrote them a million dollar cheque. Apple's Tim Cook believed them. Also wrote them a million-dollar cheque. JP Morgan Chase wrote them a half a million dollar cheque.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 1343 (Wire Fraud), if donors were not fully informed about the use of funds and would have made a different decision had they known the truth, this can constitute a material misrepresentation or omission, satisfying a key element of the statute. The core requirement is that a defendant intended to defraud donors of money or property through false pretenses or lies, often regarding how their donations would be used.

https://kaass.com/wire-fraud-18-u-s-code-1343

Per Gemini on 18 U.S.C. § 1343:

Material Omission or Misrepresentation: A misrepresentation is "material" if it is important enough that it could influence a donor's decision. If donors would have changed their minds (i.e., not donated, or donated less) upon learning the true use of funds, the concealment or lie is generally considered material.

NB So the jury (if there ever is one) would have to believe that the big donors as above might not have contributed if they were informed as to the "true" use of their donations.

It is also possible, they would have contributed more.