34 minutes ago, JerryM said:

It is also possible, they would have contributed more.

Sure, Chase and Steve Jobs would have knowingly funded Klan loons LOL.

All of the matters you raise are questions of fact. There is a billion dollars on the line. Do you think big donors want to lose that money to the Feds?

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Sure, Chase and Steve Jobs would have knowingly funded Klan loons LOL.

All of the matters you raise are questions of fact. There is a billion dollars on the line. Do you think big donors want to lose that money to the Feds?

Maybe what is on the line is

10. Between 2014 and 2023, the SPLC secretly funneled more than $3 million in SPLC funds to Fs who were associated with various violent extremist groups.

As in B. (Forfeiture) any property, real or personal, which represents or is traceable to the gross receipts obtained, directly or indirectly, from the offenses in violation

of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1343.

NB And if you read the comments of Acting AG Blanche I posted on previous page re "transparency" 1343 might not hold up.

7 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Maybe what is on the line is

10. Between 2014 and 2023, the SPLC secretly funneled more than $3 million in SPLC funds to Fs who were associated with various violent extremist groups.

The forfeiture is on the billion, or that part that was raised as a result of the fraud. Its a corporate crime, plea and settle and keep some cash.

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

The forfeiture is on the billion, or that part that was raised as a result of the fraud. Its a corporate crime, plea and settle and keep some cash.

I'll stick with what I posted above but it is moot point until there is a conviction on the 1343.

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

LOL, I dont know what was presented to the grand jury, I dont know if there is a superseding indictment for persons inbound, I dont know what the loons they were paying have been saying to the Feds, all I have is the indictment which factually in and of itself can have a reasonable inference attached thereto.

Why are you defending these long time Socialist operatives btw?

LOL. Got it. A conspiracy theory with no facts vs a theory (only to do with the SPLC) with factual allegations.

Enjoy your knee jerk life LOL.

A reasonable inference? An investigation yields no charges that anyone was paid to commit criminal Acts, and you think that's a reasonable inference? You think the prosecution wouldn't have more charges if they can make such a case? Given the failures of previous prosecutions with the political angle, I think it's former reasonable that the prosecution, like you, has nothing

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

A reasonable inference? An investigation yields no charges that anyone was paid to commit criminal Acts, and you think that's a reasonable inference? You think the prosecution wouldn't have more charges if they can make such a case? Given the failures of previous prosecutions with the political angle, I think it's former reasonable that the prosecution, like you, has nothing

The more the walls close in, the more hysterical you get. You are hitting the keyboard in a frenzy hahahahah

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

The more the walls close in, the more hysterical you get. You are hitting the keyboard in a frenzy hahahahah

Another foolish personal comment. You have nothing relevant to offer to the points I raised.

I remember ole Biden telling us that White Supremacy was the biggest threat in America. 5555

That and the old Trump said "fine people on both sides" routine. Problem is many still believe all those lies.

10 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I remember ole Biden telling us that White Supremacy was the biggest threat in America. 5555

The exact quote by then President Biden 14 MAY 2023:

President Biden on Saturday declared white supremacy “the most dangerous terrorist threat” to the American homeland ...

4 hours ago, riclag said:

You get it. Well said!

If your playin by the far left's(communist,socialist,marxist & anarchist) playbook ,its similar to the Stalin's/ Stasi tactics of political dirty tricks.

Controlled Sabotage, slandered targets(TPUSA ,etc),infiltrate groups to sow distrust and conflict. Everything is on the table with far leftism.

One of the contributors involved in Making Marxist /anarchist great again ...at the center of far leftism.

“Lawmakers have not only pulled their agenda of exclusions but also their tactics straight from the playbook of hate and antigovernment extremist groups,” the Columbia University grad continued,“By spreading disinformation, peddling conspiracy theories, and preying on people’s fears and uncertainty, they seek to deepen divisions and rouse suspicion of any effort to make spaces more welcoming for all.”

https://nypost.com/2026/04/23/us-news/how-splcs-520000-per-year-ceo-helped-turn-civil-rights-group-into-a-partisan-smear-machine/

Just to note in the NY Post link above wherein is the source for the word 'smear':

As the group drew ire from conservatives for its political bias, FBI Director Kash Patel announced in September that he had “terminated” all official ties with it, slamming the group for abandoning its civil rights group and turning “into a partisan smear machine.”

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What to know about the Trump Justice Department’s case against the Southern Poverty Law Center

The 14-page indictment, however, offered few details of how donor money that paid the informants was used to further the groups’ violent interests, or if donors felt blindsided by what their money was spent on – a glaring omission that legal experts say could spell trouble for prosecutors as they seek to secure a conviction.

Because the organization has long made public its mission of dismantling extremist groups, it’s “preposterous” for the government to argue that any donor who’s given money to SPLC didn’t know what those funds were being used for and didn’t support their money being used to pay informants, said retired federal Judge Nancy Gertner.

“Everyone understood the way they function and why they function and how that was part of the mission,” Gertner said. “So it is a curious indictment.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/23/politics/what-to-know-criminal-case-southern-poverty-law-center

"Huang, who previously spent six years at Amnesty International, now serves as a senior adviser at the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, a role she began in January, according to her LinkedIn profile".

The more i see of these leftist do gooders, who perform as agents for Leftist NGO's. the more I see communist extremist tactics gone viral.

Yahoo News

SPLC Lawyer among the Dozens Arrested for Attacking Cops...

Nearly three dozen rioters were arrested after a violent attack on police at the Atlanta Police Foundation's training facility.

SPLC Lawyer among the Dozens Arrested for Attacking Cops at Atlanta Training Facility

https://nypost.com/2026/04/23/us-news/how-splcs-520000-per-year-ceo-helped-turn-civil-rights-group-into-a-partisan-smear-machine/

Civil Rights Lawyer Charged with Domestic Terrorism in Attack on GA’s “Cop City”

"An employee at the SPLC was arrested while acting — and identifying — as a legal observer on behalf of the National Lawyers Guild (NLG). The employee is an experienced legal observer, and their arrest is not evidence of any crime, but of heavy-handed law

March 7, 2023

A lawyer for the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) was arrested and charged with domestic terrorism over the violence Sunday during protests of a planned training facility for police officers in Atlanta, the SPLC has confirmed.

"An employee at the SPLC was arrested while acting — and identifying — as a legal observer on behalf of the National Lawyers Guild (NLG). The employee is an experienced legal observer, and their arrest is not evidence of any crime, but of heavy-handed law enforcement intervention against protesters," the SPLC said in a statement on Monday.

https://www.policemag.com/news/civil-rights-lawyer-charged-with-domestic-terrorism-in-attack-on-gas-cop-city

________________________________

Prosecutors’ ‘Cop City’ case collapses as judge tosses Rico conspiracy charges

Two-year attempt to prosecute opponents of police training center on criminal conspiracy charges ends in failure

Sat 13 Sep 2025

Georgia prosecutors are facing what one expert called “probably the highest-profile failure of using conspiracy charges to indict a protest movement” in US history, after a two-year attempt to prosecute a criminal conspiracy in connection with opposition to the police training center known as Cop City.

Fulton county superior court judge Kevin Farmer announced his decision to dismiss charges against the case’s 61 defendants during hearings on a handful of defense attorney motions.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/13/cop-city-case-georgia-prosecutors

13 hours ago, Yagoda said:

LOL...sounds more like False Flag operations than operations to expose.

Funny how they were putting these loons in their fundraising newsletter as being bad boys while paying them to be bad boys LOL

But hey stay in your Socialist bubble. They are famous for operations such as this

1 hour ago, riclag said:

One of the contributors involved in Making Marxist /anarchist great again ...at the center of far leftism.

“Lawmakers have not only pulled their agenda of exclusions but also their tactics straight from the playbook of hate and antigovernment extremist groups,” the Columbia University grad continued,“By spreading disinformation, peddling conspiracy theories, and preying on people’s fears and uncertainty, they seek to deepen divisions and rouse suspicion of any effort to make spaces more welcoming for all.”

https://nypost.com/2026/04/23/us-news/how-splcs-520000-per-year-ceo-helped-turn-civil-rights-group-into-a-partisan-smear-machine/

It's even worse than that. They keep on going on and on about discredited stolen election conspiracies. So shameless! Oh wait a minute...

8 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:

So you're telling the class that the grand jury did NOT find sufficient evidence for probable cause ? Really ? Where'd you go to school ?

A Grand Jury only considers what the prosecution presents. The rules of evidence are not the same as at a trial. The Grand Jury does not consider the admissibility, nor reliability of evidence presented. There is no defense present to question the case and witness statements are not cross examined. Discovery does not occur until an indictment is returned, so the evidence presented to the Grand Jury is only questioned after the fact. Although the DOJ has a high conviction rate for federal indictments concerning drugs, firearms, and racketeering, it doesn't do so well on charges of fraud, tax evasion and politically motivated charges. This is reportedly a politically motivated undertaking.

4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I remember ole Biden telling us that White Supremacy was the biggest threat in America. 5555

That and the old Trump said "fine people on both sides" routine. Problem is many still believe all those lies.

Report buried Trump-related ‘hate crimes’ against white kids

More heinous SPLC scandal stuff .It reminds me how selective the leftist News can get when it don't fit their narratives.

"The Southern Poverty Law Center partnered with the American Federation of Teachers".

"At least 2,000 educators around the country reported racist slurs and other derogatory language leveled against white students in the first days after Donald Trump was elected president. But the group that surveyed the teachers didn’t publish the results in its report on Trump-related “hate crimes.”

https://nypost.com/2016/12/05/report-buried-trump-related-hate-crimes-against-white-kids/

The report and NY Post article from 12 DECEMBER 2016.

Cultural Marxist shy away from reporting on all the identity politics unless it involves the oppressed.

"The SPLC’s widely cited report — “The Trump Effect: The Impact of the 2016 Presidential Election on Our Nation’s Schools” — reported that 40 percent of the more than 10,000 educators who responded to the survey “have heard derogatory language directed at students of color, Muslims, immigrants and people based on gender or sexual orientation.”

https://nypost.com/2016/12/05/report-buried-trump-related-hate-crimes-against-white-kids/

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The more the walls close in, the more hysterical you get. You are hitting the keyboard in a frenzy hahahahah

Oh, we can all see who's getting frenzied, all right. But don't let me interrupt your gaslighting, smoke blowing, pearl clutching and drama queenery as the MAGA movement is heading for extinction.

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Oh, we can all see who's getting frenzied, all right. But don't let me interrupt your gaslighting, smoke blowing, pearl clutching and drama queenery as the MAGA movement is heading for extinction.

Get ahold of yourself. 5555 You sound unhinged. Maybe give Omar a call. She's needing a bestie

"The SPLC allegedly helped fund and facilitate the 2017 Charlottesville rally that resulted in a young woman’s life lost - and then used shell companies to hide it from the public and their donors".

Sounds like a conspiracy to a felony.

From The SPLC indictment INTRODUCTION:

The SPLC also had a field source who was a member of the online leadership chat group that planned the 2017 "Unite the Right" event in Charlottesville, Virginia. That field source made racist postings under the supervision of the SPLC and helped coordinate transportation to the event for several attendees.

From Wikipedia:

James Alex Fields Jr was convicted in a state court of the first-degree murder of 32-year-old Heather Heyer, eight counts of malicious wounding, and hit and run. He also pled guilty to 29 of 30 federal hate crime charges to avoid the death penalty. He was sentenced to life in prison plus 419 years for the state charges, with an additional life sentence for the federal charges.

Based on available records, James Alex Fields Jr. was not identified as part of the core planning group for the 2017 "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville.

Role as an Attendee: Fields, a neo-Nazi from Ohio, traveled to Virginia to attend the rally, but he was not listed as a primary organizer or part of the leadership team.

Main Organizers: The rally was primarily organized by white supremacist Jason Kessler, with involvement from groups like The Daily Stormer, The Right Stuff, and the Nationalist F

Background: Fields was a participant in the rally who, after it was declared an unlawful assembly, used his car to commit a terrorist attack against counter-protesters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_car_attack

More importantly, it again shows the duplicity of the Democrats

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2026/04/24/charlottesville_the_deceit_underlying_the_hoax_154063.html

"This entire sad saga matters. First, it unveils the systemic duplicity of the left in America. Because their demand for “hate” far exceeds the actual supply, they had to pay to manufacture bigotry, so that they then could oppose it. Second, the record reveals that lies build upon lies, while the truth remains, inherently, emancipating.

Whatever any citizen thinks of Donald Trump, the entire madness of Charlottesville represents a preventable and despicable tragedy. The actions of the SPLC were criminal and mafia-like. A young woman, Heather Heyer, lost her life because of this mayhem. More broadly, millions of Americans bought into an insidious lie and believed it for years, doing grave damage to the cohesion of our society. Only a full accounting, now, can begin the process of healing and truth-telling."

Every person in this forum who has spewed the Charlotteville hoax should apologize

On 4/22/2026 at 9:32 AM, riclag said:

The Onion being peeled to expose SPLC as another violent offspring of the far left NGO's. Imagine $millions going toward the groups they have opposed.

Conspiracy theory's are being debunked with years of historical evidence.

From the source:

"A grand jury in the Middle District of Alabama returned an 11-count indictment charging the SPLC with six counts of wire fraud, four counts of bank fraud, and one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering, according to the Justice Department (DOJ). Between 2014 and 2023, according to the DOJ, the SPLC "secretly funneled" more than $3 million in donations to at least eight individuals associated with violent extremist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, United Klans of America, the Nationalist Socialist Movement, Unite the Right, Aryan Nations affiliated Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club, and more".

In other news, once upon a time, America sold weapons to Iran, to the mujahideen in Afghanistan and supported the Palestinian Authority. Why is anyone surprised that they occasionally feed their "domestic enemies"?

On 4/22/2026 at 8:26 AM, Alan Zweibel said:

The charges which include money wire fraud, bank fraud, and money laundering are based on the contention that SPCL created shell entities. The thing is, the SPLC created these entities to help expose the workings of various extremist groups. It looks to me like the DOJ is once again pursuing a case against an organization that it views as an opponent. I doubt a jury is going to see it their way.

A bit too early for the DOJ to be sticking its head above the parapet, no? They're still struggling with the stench of Bondi.

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

More importantly, it again shows the duplicity of the Democrats

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2026/04/24/charlottesville_the_deceit_underlying_the_hoax_154063.html

"This entire sad saga matters. First, it unveils the systemic duplicity of the left in America. Because their demand for “hate” far exceeds the actual supply, they had to pay to manufacture bigotry, so that they then could oppose it. Second, the record reveals that lies build upon lies, while the truth remains, inherently, emancipating.

Whatever any citizen thinks of Donald Trump, the entire madness of Charlottesville represents a preventable and despicable tragedy. The actions of the SPLC were criminal and mafia-like. A young woman, Heather Heyer, lost her life because of this mayhem. More broadly, millions of Americans bought into an insidious lie and believed it for years, doing grave damage to the cohesion of our society. Only a full accounting, now, can begin the process of healing and truth-telling."

Every person in this forum who has spewed the Charlotteville hoax should apologize

Dem's in name only . The radical wing took the merit base MLK statement of dreamin his kids would be recognized by their character & twisted it around into a Marxist fugazi based on identity,hence the White Supremacy nonsense.

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Whatever any citizen thinks of Donald Trump, the entire madness of Charlottesville represents a preventable and despicable tragedy. The actions of the SPLC were criminal and mafia-like. A young woman, Heather Heyer, lost her life because of this mayhem.

So this guy is now saying, if not solely for the involvement and duplicity of SPLC. this entire event was 'preventable' would not have happened.

From the linked article:

But it now turns out that the “Unite the Right” rally was organized and financed by the highly partisan, left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center.

From AI Gemini:

Undercover agents and officers sometimes participate in questionable, deceptive, or illegal activities to maintain their cover and avoid exposure, a practice often referred to as "authorized criminality". To build trust with suspects and avoid being discovered, they may need to bolster their undercover identity by appearing to participate in criminal acts.

I'm considering starting a fake right-wing fringe group and looking for funding from the SPLC. Apparently, there is significant money to be made in this. I call it the White Sons of ASEAN.

Anyway, the SPLC has been a joke for a while. It seems like the left has turned into quite a big grift these days.

43 minutes ago, Effective altruism said:

I'm considering starting a fake right-wing fringe group and looking for funding from the SPLC. Apparently, there is significant money to be made in this. I call it the White Sons of ASEAN.

According to a federal indictment announced in April 2026, the last undercover payments made by the SPLC through their "field source" program occurred in 2023 so maybe you missed your chance.

1 hour ago, Effective altruism said:

I'm considering starting a fake right-wing fringe group and looking for funding from the SPLC. Apparently, there is significant money to be made in this. I call it the White Sons of ASEAN.

Anyway, the SPLC has been a joke for a while. It seems like the left has turned into quite a big grift these days.

Grift lol .The left are the number one supporter to the number one sponsor of Terror.