2 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

Why don't they ever say, for instance, "Zack Polanski, who was formerly known as David Paulden",

The reasons for his deed poll legal name change is interesting. His ancestors were from Ukraine, fled to Poland, then fled the Nazis. They were forced to adopt an English name. After his parents divorced, he reverted to the original family name, and adopted the name Zack after a character from a much loved book, to differentiate himself from his father, who he did not get on with. Sure beats your hero, who chose the name of a football hooligan because people knew him as Stephen Lennon, the bloke who had assaulted a police officer who intervened to stop him assaulting his girlfriend.

You forgot to mention Elton John, Michael Caine, Freddy Mercury, Snoop Dog, Vin Diesel, Woody Allen, Jesse Ventura,

The point is Lennon has used multiple different names to first carry out fraud (eg. illegal entry into the US), and then to deflect when he realised his criminal reputation preceded him (the Tommy Robinson moniker) and his use of a passport that is in yet another name. This is not analogous to a singer using a stage name.

The reason is he has monetised his fake name, originally adopted to either carry out more fraud or to try and get a job. Why doesn't he change his name by deed poll? Its only £50. He insists that his kids know him as Stephen Lennon. He insists his wife knows him as that. He insists is business associates and mates down the pub know him as that. But he wants you to know him as Tommy. I suppose the thinking is one day he will cash in, and exit the stage, to live a life in Spain as Senor Lennon.

25 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

Actually, his wife and kids are British. You know f**k all about him, so get off your racist high horse.

He has accepted he has no say in how much council tax etc he has to pay.

Sore point, truth hurts... definitely don't need people like him living in UK

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2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Bore off Nick, not getting dragged in to another pointless derailing of a thread.

He has a violent past and criminal convictions for violence. That's it. Black and white. They are a matter of public record.

OK, Bore off I shall .

I trust you wont bother replying to me gain .

Works both ways

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Just checking Nick, does no video mean it didn’t happen?

Things only happened if the Guardian reported on it and said it did happen .

If its not in the guardian, then it didn't happen

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Bore off Nick, not getting dragged in to another pointless derailing of a thread.

He has a violent past and criminal convictions for violence. That's it. Black and white. They are a matter of public record.

There are quite a lot of respected people who had criminal pasts that included violence (Nelson Mandela, Malcom X, Greg Mathis, Gerry Adams. And yet for this man all focus from the left is on his past, and not what he has been doing more recently. I am not saying what he did was not wrong, but get over it. People change.

2 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

The reasons for his deed poll legal name change is interesting. His ancestors were from Ukraine, fled to Poland, then fled the Nazis. They were forced to adopt an English name. After his parents divorced, he reverted to the original family name, and adopted the name Zack after a character from a much loved book, to differentiate himself from his father, who he did not get on with. Sure beats your hero, who chose the name of a football hooligan because people knew him as Stephen Lennon, the bloke who had assaulted a police officer who intervened to stop him assaulting his girlfriend.

Why do you assume Tommy Robinson or whatever you prefer to call him is 'my hero'?

I do find wryly amusing your narrative that the Polanski family were 'forced to adopt an English name', given that Polanski is not a particularly Jewish name, and Poles fleeing the Nazis were welcomed into Great Britain, Jewish or not. Many refugees chose to change their names to something more 'English' in order to more closely integrate into a country and society that had provided them with shelter from the horrors of Nazi Europe. My father's parents were among Jews who came from Poland before the war (luckily for me), although they kept their very Jewish family name.

Also Polanski seems quite happy to praise violence when it's "the right sort", ie some criminal activist hitting a policewoman in the back with a sledgehammer, while she was on all fours facing away from him, fracturing her spine. Now sentenced to 7 years for GBH.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/22/palestine-action-activist-who-hit-officer-with-sledge-hammer-panicked-court-told

4 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I take it you live in Thailand - you can always come home. We do have Chang albeit slightly pricier and Spoons of course.

whats this got to do with the thread ??

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

And?

Does that mean he hasn't been convicted of violent offences?

It's just a pointless statement from you. I did not say he was violent 24/7, he does have moments of not being violent. However there is no denying he has a violent history.

Stop going on about past crimes your like a tape going round and round. He did the crime and did the time. Why don't you post on the crimes he supposedly did but it was lies to stichhim up like the tube attack, or the 2 journos telling eveyone he was on the run in Turkey another load of crab these 2 put his life in danger and his family identifying where he was and the hotel he was staying, you wont post that will you joebloggs.

49 minutes ago, GarryP said:

There are quite a lot of respected people who had criminal pasts that included violence (Nelson Mandela, Malcom X, Greg Mathis, Gerry Adams. And yet for this man all focus from the left is on his past, and not what he has been doing more recently. I am not saying what he did was not wrong, but get over it. People change.

But that's the whole point - he hasn't changed. Still regularly causing trouble, and currently awaiting trial on a charge of harassment causing fear of violence.

14 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Stop going on about past crimes your like a tape going round and round. He did the crime and did the time. Why don't you post on the crimes he supposedly did but it was lies to stichhim up like the tube attack, or the 2 journos telling eveyone he was on the run in Turkey another load of crab these 2 put his life in danger and his family identifying where he was and the hotel he was staying, you wont post that will you joebloggs.

I know you don't like people saying hurty words about him, but I was responding to two specific points here: one poster who referred to him as a "peaceful political dissident" which even you must find ludicrous. And then someone else saying he hasn't done anything violent in 25 years, another lie. So I responded to those claims / lies.

The tube attack was not a "stitch up", nobody made it up, it's there on CCTV. He knocked a guy out, the police decided there was enough there to forward to the CPS to prosecute, but the case was dropped for lack of evidence as the victim declined to provide a formal statement. That doesn't mean he was cleared, or innocent, it just means the witness did not want to cooperate with police so the case was dropped. How is that a "stitch up" exactly?

If you want to start threads about someone posting his hotel then go for it. Maybe also start one about how he was an ISIS target and needed donations, but then still tells everyone where he is going to be, and when.

I have never started a single thread about Yaxley-Lennon. I just respond to false claims and I will continue to do so when I see them. Sorry if it upsets you.

You see a thread about Robinson and the 1st quote from you is " HE is a convicted criminal " he was and he admits it but that was a long tme ago but you have to come out with it on every thread he is mentioned in. If its not him your slagging off its Nigel Farage and reform party. He wants brits first in the queue for a house whats wrong with that or working overtime and not getting taxed on it but you don't post on sujects like that its all the bad stuff in your head you go for. The assault cases awaiting trial with Tommy Robinson look into it further instead of making it looking like he assaulted 2 people. Salman Rushdie had a threat on his life over 20 yrs ago not long ago he was nearly killed by a muslim. Robinson has had a seriouse threat made against him and warned by the police to take it seriouse. These 2 idiots identified his whereabouts and the location of his hotel and you don't think thats seriouse ?

Edited June 15Jun 15 by BarraMarra

10 hours ago, Tidal wave said:

I understand the UK hasn't actually charged Tommy. They just arrested him, questioned him, seized his devices and let him go. So they're using terrorism laws to spy on a peaceful political dissident. They're not even pretending not to abuse the law.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, who uses the pseudonym Tommy Robinson, has been convicted of multiple offences. His primary criminal convictions include:

• Mortgage Fraud (2014): Sentenced to 18 months in prison after pleading guilty to conspiring to obtain a \(\pounds 160,000\) mortgage by misrepresentation from Abbey and Halifax banks.

• Passport Offence (2013): Sentenced to 10 months in prison for travelling to the United States using another person's passport.

• Public Order (2013): Fined \(\pounds 200\) for incitement and behaviour leading to a breach of the peace during a march in London.

In addition to these criminal convictions, he has repeatedly been found in contempt of court:

• 2017 (Canterbury Crown Court): Given a suspended three-month sentence for contempt of court after filming inside the precincts of a court.

• 2018–2019 (Leeds Crown Court & High Court): Jailed for 9 months in total for live-streaming a video outside Leeds Crown Court that breached reporting restrictions and encouraged the harassment of defendants.

• 2024 (High Court): Sentenced to 18 months in prison after admitting to two charges of contempt of court (10 breaches) for violating a court injunction by repeating false allegations against a Syrian schoolboy

He gives being queer a bad name

Edited June 15Jun 15 by kwilco

44 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

You see a thread about Robinson and the 1st quote from you is " HE is a convicted criminal " he was and he admits it but that was a long tme ago but you have to come out with it on every thread he is mentioned in. If its not him your slagging off its Nigel Farage and reform party. He wants brits first in the queue for a house whats wrong with that or working overtime and not getting taxed on it but you don't post on sujects like that its all the bad stuff in your head you go for. The assault cases awaiting trial with Tommy Robinson look into it further instead of making it looking like he assaulted 2 people. Salman Rushdie had a threat on his life over 20 yrs ago not long ago he was nearly killed by a muslim. Robinson has had a seriouse threat made against him and warned by the police to take it seriouse. These 2 idiots identified his whereabouts and the location of his hotel and you don't think thats seriouse ?

If people want to talk about YL or people who posted his hotel then I see no reason to join in. If some one says "I like him because I'm a Luton fan", or "I like smashing things up", or, "I agree with what he says, even if not how he says it", then I see no reason to join in - those are conversations and opinions, and everyone has their own opinions.

However, if people post lies, like saying he is the UK's best investigative journalist, or that he's a "peaceful political dissident", or that he single handedly expose the rape gangs, or that he has committed no violence in 25 years then I am going to pull those posters up. Because those statements are patently false.

Likewise if I said "I think Starmer is an honest man but not a great or inspiring Prime Minister" you might not feel that worthy of comment as it is just an opinion and not outrageous. If I said "Starmer is by far the greatest Prime Minister the UK has ever had" then I would expect to be pulled up about it as it would be a ridiculous statement.

Likewise someone saying Starmer is worse than Hitler - do you think that should be pulled up and challenged?

If I was starting a new thread each day saying YL is violent, or a criminal, or a fraud, then fair enough to criticise. But I am only responding to comments of other people when they go way beyong what is normal or reasonable. If no outrageous claims about him I won't post about him.

See how it works now?

Edited June 15Jun 15 by josephbloggs

Stop f g patronising good bye.

8 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

He's chosen to take up the citizenship of another country. I back the idea, held by a number of countries, that after the age of 18, you need to decide who's citizenship you are going to hold, and drop/denounce all others. One cannot be loyal to both the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland.

Very good idea

8 hours ago, baansgr said:

As for dual citizenship, your saying every country worldwide should not allow it?

Dual citizenship is an abomination.

The chinese have the right idea.

As for Tommy, theres a fair chance he's on the MI5/UK Govt payroll anyway.
He's allowed to highlight some real issues (grooming gangs, Islamism, mass immigration, two-tier policing) to channel public anger, but in a way that discredits the wider "patriot" or nationalist cause through his criminal record, inflammatory stylen etc.

This keeps genuine resistance fragmented or delegitimised.

Pity the UK does not apply the same rigorous approach and enthusiasm with actual violent bigots who enter the UK on an given day like hate preacher Mohamed Hoblos or the hundreds of foreign students who incite violence at their host educational institutions.

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Things only happened if the Guardian reported on it and said it did happen .

If its not in the guardian, then it didn't happen

I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion.

How about answering the simple question I asked?!

3 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

You see a thread about Robinson and the 1st quote from you is " HE is a convicted criminal " he was and he admits it but that was a long tme ago but you have to come out with it on every thread he is mentioned in. If its not him your slagging off its Nigel Farage and reform party. He wants brits first in the queue for a house whats wrong with that or working overtime and not getting taxed on it but you don't post on sujects like that its all the bad stuff in your head you go for. The assault cases awaiting trial with Tommy Robinson look into it further instead of making it looking like he assaulted 2 people. Salman Rushdie had a threat on his life over 20 yrs ago not long ago he was nearly killed by a muslim. Robinson has had a seriouse threat made against him and warned by the police to take it seriouse. These 2 idiots identified his whereabouts and the location of his hotel and you don't think thats seriouse ?

3 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

You see a thread about Robinson and the 1st quote from you is " HE is a convicted criminal " he was and he admits it but that was a long tme ago but you have to come out with it on every thread he is mentioned in. If its not him your slagging off its Nigel Farage and reform party. He wants brits first in the queue for a house whats wrong with that or working overtime and not getting taxed on it but you don't post on sujects like that its all the bad stuff in your head you go for. The assault cases awaiting trial with Tommy Robinson look into it further instead of making it looking like he assaulted 2 people. Salman Rushdie had a threat on his life over 20 yrs ago not long ago he was nearly killed by a muslim. Robinson has had a seriouse threat made against him and warned by the police to take it seriouse. These 2 idiots identified his whereabouts and the location of his hotel and you don't think thats seriouse ?

Nobody is saying that Tommy Robinson shouldn't be protected if there is a credible threat against him. In a democratic society, everyone is entitled to protection from violence, regardless of their politics. If police warned him of a serious threat, that threat should be taken seriously.

However, that doesn't mean he should be immune from criticism.

You complain that people mention his criminal record whenever he's discussed. The reason is simple: Robinson has built much of his public image around law, order, crime and accountability. When someone makes those issues central to their political identity, their own record is relevant.

Nor is it true that criticism of Robinson is based on ancient history. In recent years he has been jailed or sanctioned over contempt of court matters and breaches of court orders, including cases where courts found that his actions risked interfering with legal proceedings or violated injunctions. Those are matters of public record, not smears.

The comparison with Salman Rushdie doesn't really work. Being threatened by extremists does not automatically make someone's political views correct. Rushdie was right to be defended against violence, and Robinson should be defended against violence too. But neither person's security situation exempts them from public scrutiny or criticism.

As for housing, taxation, immigration or Reform UK policies, people can debate those issues on their merits. But support for a policy proposal does not require support for Tommy Robinson, and criticism of Tommy Robinson does not require opposition to every policy that his supporters favour.

The real issue is whether we judge political figures by evidence, facts and behaviour, or whether we excuse conduct because we happen to agree with their politics. I prefer the former.

7 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Why is that good news?

Tommo

On 6/14/2026 at 7:06 AM, beautifulthailand99 said:

Bang him up and put him in with the Brothers who can teach him about Allah and stop his shameless grifting. So called hard man brought down by a much harder man. Enjoy !

Keep the downvotes coming they give me succour. I'm not a karma farmer - just a prick.

10 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

Why is it that a certain type of person / certain media always have to say "Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon"? Who cares? Why does it matter? Do they think it shows they're "in the know", somehow?

Why don't they ever say, for instance, "Zack Polanski, who was formerly known as David Paulden", or "The Weeknd, whose real name is Abel Makkonen Tesfaye" (okay, in this case I get that 'The Weeknd' rolls off the tongue a little better).

They do it to make it seem like he has something to hide; that he's untrusworthy.

Do they ever do the same with Elton John (real name Reg Dwight) or Cliff Richard (real name Harry Webb)? No.

What was he detained for? Did he stab someone or participate in a grooming gang?

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Tommo

Keep the downvotes coming they give me succour. I'm not a karma farmer - just a prick.

Thanks Roadster you got the message. Keep em coming ...

Stephen Lennon (or Tommy Robinson), in my view, is a traitor. It doesn't matter whether he is witting on not. He has consorted with a country intent on doing us harm, and which has done us harm, leading directly to the death of an innocent British citizen. He might not agree with British foreign policy, but that cannot be used as a defence. He should cooperate fully with the authorities about his meetings in Moscow, the circumstances of his visit and the involvement of Russian government and political figures.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r2l352z2do

Even after he set fire to Sir Keir Starmer's house, Roman Lavrynovych - convicted on Monday of conspiring to commit arson - seemed to know as much about the prime minister as a bullet knows about its target.

His anonymous handler, known by the initials EL, gave a clue in a message: "Look, you attacked the home of a very high-ranking person in Britain. I'll send you money, you need to leave the city."

It was too late: Lavrynovych was arrested within hours.

The 22-year-old Ukrainian builder had been weaponised to target the UK's head of government. But by who?

We have identified evidence suggesting that EL is a young Russian diplomat, schooled in information warfare by spies and propagandists, who is close to the highest levels of power in Moscow. His name is Evgeny Lyukshin. He is 23 and the son of a senior official

Russian operatives ran their sabotage and provocation campaign remotely through social media and the messaging app Telegram, we found, creating fake online far-right and Muslim groups, which were used to organise acts of vandalism in the UK and stir up division and fear.

Accounts based in Russia posted lies about the motive for the arson attacks targeting Starmer, which were spread by figures such as far-right anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson.

But the trial of the three men was strange, mainly because the true author of the drama was never revealed.

The case focused strictly on a financial motive. The identity, connections and motives of the anonymous handler who offered Lavrynovych money for the attacks were deliberately avoided.

In court, there were only a limited number of messages from EL, all of them sent to Lavrynovych and Carpiuc, which showed him writing in formal Russian and far less proficient Ukrainian. But we were able to uncover EL's wider activities using open-source tools.

EL's ideology and goals were plain.

Messages from the EL account in various Telegram channels show him glorifying Putin and Russia, attacking the Ukrainian people and promoting Russian narratives.

"It is obvious that Putin is the leader of the white race," he posted in one chat.

EL incited attacks on conscription centres in Ukraine, which has been at war since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022. He said that people there who are in favour of the "white Slavic race" should join the "real Third Rome", a reference to the belief that Russia is the successor to the Roman Empire.

There was no mention in the trial of what the posters put up by Lavrynovych on EL's orders actually advertised: a purported far-right group called Direct Action UK.

The group sought to appear as an organic British creation. But we found that Direct Action was created online by Russian operatives to cause division among ordinary people in the UK.

Direct Action first appeared online in autumn 2024, after the riots that followed the Southport murders, and its propaganda exploited images from the disorder.

Its social media channels, which the posters were advertising, featured videos branding Sir Keir a traitor, promoting hatred of Muslims and offering money for violence and arson, including attacks on mosques and police. Direct Action also lionised Tommy Robinson.

"This is war," the group declared

.

But, although Direct Action was fake, it generated real-life attacks. In London, six mosques and an Islamic school were vandalised last year after the group offered payment for Islamophobic graffiti.

Slogans such as "remigration" and "Stop Islam" were spray-painted on mosques from Croydon in the south of the capital to Leyton in the east. Direct Action turned video clips of the vandalism into brash social media videos, to amplify hatred and create fear.

14 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

Why was Lennon in Russia in the first place. He traveled there with Candace Owens; Errol Musk, father of Elon; and influencers Andrew and Tristan Tate. He told the Guardian that he had travelled to Moscow “to see how this country got itself so well on to the straight and narrow and see the beauty of a civilised society here", which sounds remarkably similar to all those Western communists who traveled to the Soviet Union in the 1930s to see how great it was.

On the face of it, he was consorting with a hostile power conducting hybrid warfare against the United Kingdom.

Errol Musk, a South African national, was in Moscow at the invitation of the Russian government, attending a Russian version of Davos. Among other things, including praising Putin, and attending meetings organised by Alexander Dugin, Musk was there to discuss resettlement plans for Afrikaners inside Russia.

But that plan isn't going down well in Russia

https://novayagazeta.eu/en/articles/2026/06/05/honoured-guest-unwanted-visitor-en

Who invited Lennon to Russia? He obviously didn't just go for a sight seeing trip, and just happened to bump into Musk. Maybe something had to be said to him in person, that couldn't be emailed, PM'd.

The proverbial useful idiot who is just a sniffhead moron who takes the based and trad Russian potemkin village at entirely face value. I don't really get how he squared that with burning warships and oil terminals in St Pidorsburg while he was there, but then again he is really <deleted> stupid

It was Lenin that was Russian, Lennon was a Beetle and Robinson is a UK hero to help out the doubters'.

5 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

It was Lenin that was Russian, Lennon was a Beetle and Robinson is a UK hero to help out the doubters'.

I am referring to Stephen Lennon, not John Lennon of The Beatles, nor Vladimir Lenin.

Stephen Lennon uses the "Tommy Robinson" nomme de guerre. He is a traitor in my opinion.

Recent Muslim convert and wanted man Andrew Tate was in Moscow at the same time. Both he and Lennon/Robinson come from Luton, and they know each other since the early 2000s.

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Just checking Nick, does no video mean it didn’t happen?

I am going to say yes.

For the sole reason that you are going to have to scroll back all though my posts to find a contradiction .

"Last year you said that................................"

And you will feel very pleased with yourself for beating a right wing fascist

Our Tommy aka' patriotic defender' aka' far right thug' will be posting about the rape of a 17 year old girl by a group of migrants' in Arbroath Scotland that the police are desperate to cover up allegedly 🤔

2 hours ago, Tidal wave said:

It was Lenin that was Russian, Lennon was a Beetle and Robinson is a UK hero to help out the doubters'.

Robinson was a notorious football hooligan.

55 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I am going to say yes.

For the sole reason that you are going to have to scroll back all though my posts to find a contradiction .

"Last year you said that................................"

And you will feel very pleased with yourself for beating a right wing fascist

Thank you for confirming that which you’ve previously denied.